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I think the time has come for me to sell my trusty D300S while i still can get some cash for it. It is without a doubt a trully great body but i need a model similarly weather sealed with a higher MP count, better DR and better ISO performance on the entire range.

Ideally i would go for an FX body but unfortunatelly my budget does not go that high furthermore i only have 2 FX lenses on my kit.

With the above in mind i was thinking of the D7100.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks
 
hoakin1981 said:
I think the time has come for me to sell my trusty D300S while i still can get some cash for it. It is without a doubt a trully great body but i need a model similarly weather sealed with a higher MP count, better DR and better ISO performance on the entire range.

Ideally i would go for an FX body but unfortunatelly my budget does not go that high furthermore i only have 2 FX lenses on my kit.

With the above in mind i was thinking of the D7100.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks
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Ideally an FX body? Well, it depends on what you shoot and how you shoot. And as you say you may have to get new lenses.

Go for a D500. Same lineage as the D300(s), similarly weather sealed, same controls, higher MP count, better everything. Nikon even says this is the D300 successor, not the D7xxx series.

JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
 
n057 said:
hoakin1981 said:
I think the time has come for me to sell my trusty D300S while i still can get some cash for it. It is without a doubt a trully great body but i need a model similarly weather sealed with a higher MP count, better DR and better ISO performance on the entire range.

Ideally i would go for an FX body but unfortunatelly my budget does not go that high furthermore i only have 2 FX lenses on my kit.

With the above in mind i was thinking of the D7100.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks
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Ideally an FX body? Well, it depends on what you shoot and how you shoot. And as you say you may have to get new lenses.

Go for a D500. Same lineage as the D300(s), similarly weather sealed, same controls, higher MP count, better everything. Nikon even says this is the D300 successor, not the D7xxx series.

JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
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Thanks for the suggestion but 2000 Eur for a DX body? No thank you, i don't care whose successor Nikon says it is...
 
hoakin1981 said:
n057 said:
hoakin1981 said:
I think the time has come for me to sell my trusty D300S while i still can get some cash for it. It is without a doubt a trully great body but i need a model similarly weather sealed with a higher MP count, better DR and better ISO performance on the entire range.

Ideally i would go for an FX body but unfortunatelly my budget does not go that high furthermore i only have 2 FX lenses on my kit.

With the above in mind i was thinking of the D7100.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks
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Ideally an FX body? Well, it depends on what you shoot and how you shoot. And as you say you may have to get new lenses.

Go for a D500. Same lineage as the D300(s), similarly weather sealed, same controls, higher MP count, better everything. Nikon even says this is the D300 successor, not the D7xxx series.

JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
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Thanks for the suggestion but 2000 Eur for a DX body? No thank you, i don't care whose successor Nikon says it is...
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Too bad. That was the about original price for the D300 by the way :-)

You might want to ask for opinions on this forum then:

"Welcome to the Nikon DX SLR (D40-D90, D3000-D7200) Talk Forum, the place to discuss Nikon D7200, D7100, D7000, D5500, D5300, D5200, D5100, D5000, D3000 - D3300 and D40-D90 digital SLRs. "

JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
 
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hoakin1981 said:
n057 said:
hoakin1981 said:
I think the time has come for me to sell my trusty D300S while i still can get some cash for it. It is without a doubt a trully great body but i need a model similarly weather sealed with a higher MP count, better DR and better ISO performance on the entire range.

Ideally i would go for an FX body but unfortunatelly my budget does not go that high furthermore i only have 2 FX lenses on my kit.

With the above in mind i was thinking of the D7100.

Any better suggestions?
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Go for a D500.
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Thanks for the suggestion but 2000 Eur for a DX body? No thank you, i don't care whose successor Nikon says it is...
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You are clearly in the wrong forum.
 
What about the D7200? Thats a great camera.
 
D300s, stays as my backup..........my D200...lol...backup to my backup !

Chuck Kling

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n057 said:
hoakin1981 said:
n057 said:
hoakin1981 said:
I think the time has come for me to sell my trusty D300S while i still can get some cash for it. It is without a doubt a trully great body but i need a model similarly weather sealed with a higher MP count, better DR and better ISO performance on the entire range.

Ideally i would go for an FX body but unfortunatelly my budget does not go that high furthermore i only have 2 FX lenses on my kit.

With the above in mind i was thinking of the D7100.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks
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Ideally an FX body? Well, it depends on what you shoot and how you shoot. And as you say you may have to get new lenses.

Go for a D500. Same lineage as the D300(s), similarly weather sealed, same controls, higher MP count, better everything. Nikon even says this is the D300 successor, not the D7xxx series.

JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
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Thanks for the suggestion but 2000 Eur for a DX body? No thank you, i don't care whose successor Nikon says it is...
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Too bad. That was the about original price for the D300 by the way :-)

You might want to ask for opinions on this forum then:

"Welcome to the Nikon DX SLR (D40-D90, D3000-D7200) Talk Forum, the place to discuss Nikon D7200, D7100, D7000, D5500, D5300, D5200, D5100, D5000, D3000 - D3300 and D40-D90 digital SLRs. "

JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
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hoakin1981 said:
I think the time has come for me to sell my trusty D300S while i still can get some cash for it. It is without a doubt a trully great body but i need a model similarly weather sealed with a higher MP count, better DR and better ISO performance on the entire range.

Ideally i would go for an FX body but unfortunatelly my budget does not go that high furthermore i only have 2 FX lenses on my kit.

With the above in mind i was thinking of the D7100.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks
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Haokin,

If you're thinking of going to FX soon, then do it now instead of buying a DX and wishing for an FX.

Otherwise, as was pointed out to you, buy either a D500 or go with the D7200 over the D7100. Best options for a DX camera, depending on you and what you shoot.

Sam
 
safe bet for your budget would be D7200.
 
DaveOl said:
You can always get an FX body and shoot in crop mode until you can get more FX lenses. Or you can crop the images you shoot to remove the vignetting.
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Du-eeeeeeh :-(


JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
 
Well, you've got me beat. As a long time D300s user who has now moved on to the D500 I wouldn't know where to advise you to go. Logically, I agree with your analysis of the D300s position today. The logical and recognised replacement is the D500 which Incorporates the best part of a decades technological improvements. You have rejected this. You have also dismissed a full frame unit and Nikon's best high resolution DX camera, the D7200, which I used for 6 months and nearly rejected the D500 to stay with.

I know of no Canon cropped frame cameras better, (or worse), than the above. Both the 800D and the 7D mk ll are excellent matches for the Nikons mentioned above but are very similarly spec'd. The 7D mk ll is considerably cheaper today than the Nikon D500, but after you have to pay the costs of changing lenses, flash guns etc there would probably be no financial advantage over buying a D500.

Perhaps somebody who has more knowledge of Sony, Praktica etc may be able to assist
 
It is simple :)

The D7200 has significantly more resolution, DR, buffer/FPS in 14 bit and noise performance together with better AF and decent water resistance and build quality.

Sorry - I dumped my D300 series years ago because the improvements the D7000, then the D7100 and now the D7200 each provide much better results than "stone age" technology D300/s.

Initially in many ways the better D500 seems above your budget. You might get a better trade in against a D500 rather than a D7200.
 
Leonard Shepherd said:
It is simple :)

The D7200 has significantly more resolution, DR, buffer/FPS in 14 bit and noise performance together with better AF and decent water resistance and build quality.

Sorry - I dumped my D300 series years ago because the improvements the D7000, then the D7100 and now the D7200 each provide much better results than "stone age" technology D300/s.

Initially in many ways the better D500 seems above your budget. You might get a better trade in against a D500 rather than a D7200.
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Why do you want to sell your D300s to get an in most ways inferior D7100?

Your D300s can do this:

https://flic.kr/p/LwG7te
 
n057 said:
You also have to consider that the D7200 is now, well old. A replacement for consumer grade cameras come out every two years or so, and suddenly you feel you have a "stone age" camera and you feel you "must" get rid of it. For that line of cameras at least.
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You are presuming I do not feel a value in something I intend to keep for a while.

The D7200 does some things better than a D500 :)

The point I was making is that anybody with a D300/D300s who has not tried the improved performance of the D7000, then the further significantly improved D7100, then the moderately improved D7200 has missed the point that if they do not consider an upgrade they have missed out on the significantly improved images that are easily available.

Some are happy with at best good quality 16x12 prints at no higher than 400 ISO, with modest dynamic range and hardly quicker the 1 fps shooting 14 bit. For many photographers this is enough.

The D7200 provides at least 15% more image resolution (compared to 300s) with every lens owned, generally 2-3 stops greater DR, 30x24 print potential at 1600 ISO, better colour, higher fps and better AF. A lot of photographers consider this a worthwhile upgrade.

How often one upgrades is personal choice - I do not still drive my first car which was not new in 1973. If care is taken to find good new discounts (in UK some dealers have "one day deals"), keep equipment in good condition together with the box etc upgrading can be relatively painless.
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The "pro-DX" D300 had a pretty good "longevity". You yourself went through a D7000, a D7100 and a D7200 after the D300,
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Yes - but its image quality cannot come close to cameras like the D7200.

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Leonard Shepherd
You can buy kit. The rest is mainly down to you.
The more you practice, as with a musical instrument, the better you are likely to become.
 
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Leonard Shepherd said:
n057 said:
You also have to consider that the D7200 is now, well old. A replacement for consumer grade cameras come out every two years or so, and suddenly you feel you have a "stone age" camera and you feel you "must" get rid of it. For that line of cameras at least.
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You are presuming I do not feel a value in something I intend to keep for a while.

The D7200 does some things better than a D500 :)

The point I was making is that anybody with a D300/D300s who has not tried the improved performance of the D7000,
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The D7000 I had was in many ways a step back from the D300s as with the D7100 and D7200. The sensor may be better but that about sums it up. In almost any other area the D300/s is the better camera and the true replacement is the D500.
Leonard Shepherd said:
then the further significantly improved D7100, then the moderately improved D7200 has missed the point that if they do not consider an upgrade they have missed out on the significantly improved images that are easily available.

Some are happy with at best good quality 16x12 prints at no higher than 400 ISO, with modest dynamic range and hardly quicker the 1 fps shooting 14 bit. For many photographers this is enough.

The D7200 provides at least 15% more image resolution (compared to 300s) with every lens owned, generally 2-3 stops greater DR, 30x24 print potential at 1600 ISO, better colour, higher fps and better AF. A lot of photographers consider this a worthwhile upgrade.
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Are you willing to do a blind test on prints to determine which is which? D300/s vs D7200? I have no problems with the colors from the D300s I own. Try put the SD card from the D300s in the D500 and review the D300s files on the D500 screen. You will immediately notice just what a great camera the D300s is.
Leonard Shepherd said:
How often one upgrades is personal choice -
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Right on!
Leonard Shepherd said:
I do not still drive my first car which was not new in 1973.
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I expect to keep my car for a long time too.
Leonard Shepherd said:
If care is taken to find good new discounts (in UK some dealers have "one day deals"), keep equipment in good condition together with the box etc upgrading can be relatively painless.
Leonard Shepherd said:
The "pro-DX" D300 had a pretty good "longevity". You yourself went through a D7000, a D7100 and a D7200 after the D300,
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Yes - but its image quality cannot come close to cameras like the D7200.
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It doesn't have to. The differences are minor in final prints and when it matters you can have a D500 and D300/s combo to switch between equal setups. The D300/s certainly produces good enough images to last you a lifetime. What else is required comes down to specialties when you need high ISO, low light AF, etc. Areas where the D500 excels over the D7200.
Leonard Shepherd said:
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Leonard Shepherd
You can buy kit. The rest is mainly down to you.
The more you practice, as with a musical instrument, the better you are likely to become.
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Tigre del neve said:
The differences are minor in final prints
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Working to PAGB judge standards the differences in larger prints produced to a high standard are more than minor.
 
Leonard Shepherd said:
Tigre del neve said:
The differences are minor in final prints
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Working to PAGB judge standards the differences in larger prints produced to a high standard are more than minor.
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You are referring to larger prints. How large do you want to go? Would you be able to tell in a blind test? Not knowing if it was a D810, a D7200 or a D300s and print set to same size. I seriously doubt you would come out of that with a 100% correct. I don't think there would be much difference at say A3 sized prints if you did not know which was which or even what camera it was taken with.
Leonard Shepherd said:
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Leonard Shepherd
You can buy kit. The rest is mainly down to you.
The more you practice, as with a musical instrument, the better you are likely to become.
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