11 Years And Still Shooting - Kodak P880!!!

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I bought this camera right when it came out... I don't know if I got a lucky one but mine is still going strong after 11 straight years of shooting... There is over 100,000 exposures on this camera, and it still is great... Only problem is battery life (I need to get some OEM Batteries for this camera), and I have a couple of stuck pixels on the LCD screen... Not on the sensor however.... The one drawback is that the RAW function seems to take forever to write to the SD card... I do still shoot the .KDC files every now and then, but lately it's been .JPEG... I like the fact that the flash is a Manual one and not 'Pop-up' when the camera decides to shoot with a flash.... If you have not had a chance to shoot with one I am sure you can get one on Amazon or Ebay!!!!! Here is my last photo I took in low light the other day!!! Hope ya like and enjoy shooting!!!







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Michael, for me, debating digital cameras is akin to a vegetarian discussing mad cow disease, and the camera at issue here is now over ten years old.

One can cherry-pick opinions at will, but once again I have to refer you to DPR's take on the cam and I'm sure you are out on a limb questioning the veracity of DPR's camera reviewing policy and thoroughness which has an excellent reputation. I find their reviews of the Panasonic FZ18, Sony H2 and Panasonic LX7 - all of which I own - to be spot on!

You quoted one forum member (no names, no pack drill) who once posted a pic taken with some smart phone which had weird colour and blown plasticised highlights and he implied, in effect, that such a photographic tool was all that was needed! So much for people's opinions, so I'm sorry Michael, I cannot give any credence to your views on the P880.
NO.... absolutely... NO.... dpreview's reviews are mediocre unboxing reviews... have a look at the all new Panasonic Leica 12/1.4... what they try is just to thrill people with sunstars and some dirty pics on the beach... No comment that a 1300$ lens is not optically corrected... no comment at all... have a look by yourself... the only serious site is and was the Luminous landscape BY FAR...!!!
 
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All Jarrod wanted was to express his enthusiasm for a camera he still loves to use, even after eleven years (as I do, and many others here who still have it in full working order)

If paying € 600 for it back then was a bad decision (which I can imagine), then who is to blame........ ;-)

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Mart... if it makes you feel better... yes that was a bad decision of me... among some other in my life... and it has been written to the "book".... as a bad decision of ME...

Now will that make poor P880 any better...? faster...? more reliable...? definitely NO....

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Indeed, your judgement against that of others, who are still satisfied with it and accepting all foibles and shortcommings and the age of it.

Raving on about it doesn't make your life any better.

Neither does it make me change my (nuanced) opinion.

Have a nice day Michael ;-)

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Mart
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, does not go away.
Kodak DX7590, CX7525, Z980, P880, C875, P850, M583, P712, V570, DC3400, DC290, DC4800, Z990 MAX, EasyShare One (4mp), V610. Sony SLT a77II
( Lumix TZ40 my wife)
 
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NO.... absolutely... NO.... dpreview's reviews are mediocre unboxing reviews..
That statement must surely add a new dimension to the word, 'hyperbole'! :-O
. have a look at the all new Panasonic Leica 12/1.4... what they try is just to thrill people with sunstars and some dirty pics on the beach...
At that mention of 'dirty pics', I went straight there as I lost all the ones I had from a guy in a back alley in Cairo in 1952. But the quality of the sample pics just look look like any others I've seen from decent lenses.
No comment that a 1300$ lens is not optically corrected... no comment at all...
What would it have to be corrected for? I should imagine nit pickers will find something to complain about though.

And as for Luminous Landscape....don't you have to pay to go there? DPR is free! ;-)

Stop worrying, Michael...just make the best of what you have and enjoy yourself. I wonder what camera/s you used to take all the lovely pics in your gallery. Do you think you'd have done any better with any other camera/s? If you said they'd been taken with a P880 I could easily believe you.

Best from Robert.

 
Good camera! I consider it an early digital point and shoot classic. I do think cameras have progressed and can't blame anyone who has moved on. I have great memories of the 880, Canon A620, Canon G10 and especially Fuji's F31 but have moved on. I think I buy too many cameras.

For point and shoot I now favor the Sony RX100IV and Leica's 109 version of the Panasonic LX100. Both are exceptional.

I enjoyed this thread and love the shot. Thanks.
 
The P880 wasn't bad build quality, I paid £800 for a Minolta Dimage 7i around that time and that was truly terrible, AA batteries that lasted about 12 shots and it was built like a childrens toy

I used the P880 extensively and found the build to be reasonable, nothing ever broke, battery life was very good, the weak spot was the on/off switch, but many cameras around that time were not built any better, the Canon bridge cameras were always very good I found, if anything todays Canon cameras are not as well built (but cheaper and higher spec)

I still find todays Pixpro AZ526 to be very acceptable for the price, that has replaced my P880, about the same size 52x optical as opposed to 5 !!!!!, 24mm wide end and a reasonable EVF for 1/3 of the original price of the P880 :-) (even ignoring inflation)

PS, have just bought an Olympus Tough TG-4 for the beach, 100% waterproof and almost indestructable, JPEGS lack a little fine detail sometimes but its really fun and I dont have to worry about sand, water, dropping it etc, heres a couple :-)



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Kodak Pixpro AZ526 Superzoom examples here
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk8mNYF1
 

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Very nice pictures, Vaughan.

As for the famous powerswitch problem of the P880, if you keep using it and if nessesary use some WD40, it's easily to overcome. Mine have no problems at the moment (Touch Wood ;-) ).

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Mart
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, does not go away.
Kodak DX7590, CX7525, Z980, P880, C875, P850, M583, P712, V570, DC3400, DC290, DC4800, Z990 MAX, EasyShare One (4mp), V610. Sony SLT a77II
( Lumix TZ40 my wife)
 
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The P880 wasn't bad build quality, I paid £800 for a Minolta Dimage 7i around that time and that was truly terrible, AA batteries that lasted about 12 shots and it was built like a childrens toy

I used the P880 extensively and found the build to be reasonable, nothing ever broke, battery life was very good, the weak spot was the on/off switch, but many cameras around that time were not built any better, the Canon bridge cameras were always very good I found, if anything todays Canon cameras are not as well built (but cheaper and higher spec)

I still find todays Pixpro AZ526 to be very acceptable for the price, that has replaced my P880, about the same size 52x optical as opposed to 5 !!!!!, 24mm wide end and a reasonable EVF for 1/3 of the original price of the P880 :-) (even ignoring inflation)

PS, have just bought an Olympus Tough TG-4 for the beach, 100% waterproof and almost indestructable, JPEGS lack a little fine detail sometimes but its really fun and I dont have to worry about sand, water, dropping it etc, heres a couple :-)

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Kodak Pixpro AZ526 Superzoom examples here
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk8mNYF1
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The P880 wasn't bad build quality, I paid £800 for a Minolta Dimage 7i around that time and that was truly terrible, AA batteries that lasted about 12 shots and it was built like a childrens toy
I think it's generally agreed that the P880's build quality was on a par with its competition at the time and was certainly not criticised by the reviewer - one of the few who really knew what he was talking about.

The same with the Dimage 7i which was highly recommended by the same reviewer and you say it was 'truly terrible'? Really! And as for a 'children's toy', he made no mention of such but maybe he was just trying to relive his childhood and didn't like to let on. :-D

You certainly didn't get many shots out of your AA batteries but what sort of AAs, plain vanilla alkalines (understandable) or NiMH (not so understandable) and even NiCd would have been better. You don't say. But, in the review, poor battery life was highlighted and fared badly compared with other cameras of the 7i's genre.

vaughanB, you are as entitled to your opinions as anyone else, but I wish you wouldn't present them as if they were facts. You say you bought the 7i about the time the P880 appeared, so did you read the 7i's review which came out earlier? I have a feeling that maybe you suffered from 'buyer's remorse' - especially considering the price you paid - and the performance of your present cameras now being superior, and at drastically lower prices, are the root cause of your present views.

I am always pleased to read constructive criticism that I can learn from and view pics of subject matter that I can appreciate and understand, and I conclude by opining that you seem mean on the former but generous on the latter. Stick with the latter, vaughanB. ;-)
 
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vaughanB, you are as entitled to your opinions as anyone else, but I wish you wouldn't present them as if they were facts. You say you bought the 7i about the time the P880 appeared, so did you read the 7i's review which came out earlier? I have a feeling that maybe you suffered from 'buyer's remorse' - especially considering the price you paid -
Totally disagree, reviews are to be taken with a pinch of salt, I have used many cameras that received poor or mediocre reviews that all things considered (including price) have turned out to be excellent (Kodak AZ526 ,Microsoft Lumia 950 phone, the list is large) on the other hand many cameras that receive rave reviews I have found to be disappointing, the original Sony RX100 Mk 1 is a good example, poor rear LCD, slow startup, unimpressive burst very good in low light but thats about it, even at its now 1/3 of the original price I don't think its worth the money unless you desperately need a small camera to use in low light, otherwise a £150 Canon Powershot is a better camera in almost every way despite the Sony 1 inch sensor, the MK4 is £750 and is doubtless much better

At the time the P880 offered a 24mm wide lens which was rare and that was what made it so appealing to me, but now the AZ526 is a much better camera so I wouldn't use a P880 now, but Kodak are a one trick pony because the 20mp AZ651 I found to be truly dreadful, I didn't even read a review of that camera, I bought one, tried it for a few days and exchanged it, tried another which was just as bad and had a refund, thats how I handle it

I tried every type of battery with the Dimage 7i, the battery life was truly terrible, and I tried 2 cameras, yet all the reviews failed to point out just how bad it was, image quality was also nothing special I replaced it with a Sony 717 which was better in every way (same era), and I mean every way, build, speed ,IQ, focus speed, it just worked....properly and the battery lasted forever, for about the same price, many reviews are not worth even reading apart from the technical specifications, review after review were quite positive about the 7i, I thought it was a piece of junk

I read reviews for dimensions and features, but as for everything else I ignore it, I buy from a place with a returns policy and make up my own mind

Another example is the Canon Powershot SX280 which is slated unerversally for poor battery life, the solution is so so simple, Canon released an uprated battery which totally solves the problem but this is never mentioned, it is a brilliant little camera with excellent IQ and a 20x optical zoom some even slate it for being "only" 12.1mp, but if you are put off by such comments you miss out on a gem (apart from low light it outperforms the RX100 in every way, faster, better LCD, vasly longer reach pretty well every way, but reviews would lead you to believe otherwise

So if you base your decisions on reviews, thats up to you, I will use my own brain and eyes, the saying "you get what you pay for" I have found to be pretty meaningless

I currently have an SX280 (mixed reviews, many negative) so it was inexpensive but its really good, that replaced the highly acclaimed Sony RX100 and unless you need a tiny camera to shoot in the dark, does a far better job

An AZ526 (Kodak) mixed reviews but its every bit as good as any other small sensor bridge camera but cheaper

A Nikon D5300, its OK but poor low light focus with the kit lens, a bit over-rated, but a good camera, can't understand why the auto white balance is not as good as a compact or a smartphone though reviews would have you believe its the Nirvana of cameras

A Lumia 950XL phone which has generally poor reviews for the camera (including here) but its one of the best I have used, the 640XL is even better and 1/4 of the price of an iphone or Galaxy of similar spec

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Kodak Pixpro AZ526 Superzoom examples here
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk8mNYF1
 
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Too many straw men to contend with in that piece, vaughanB and the water in the well looks pretty murky too.

Fin.
 
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Too many straw men to contend with in that piece, vaughanB and the water in the well looks pretty murky too.

Fin.
To each their own, Robert. Too many opinions to waste time on......... There are more important things.... :-|
 
Too many straw men to contend with in that piece, vaughanB and the water in the well looks pretty murky too.

Fin.
To each their own, Robert. Too many opinions to waste time on......... There are more important things.... :-|
I don't really have 'opinions', Mart where digital cameras are concerned. I just accept them for what they are and make the best of them.

And it's important to me that discussions/debates are not laced with the distractions in your quote which are indicative of very shaky ground.

Thank you for contributing, Mart...and now, Fin!
 
Too many straw men to contend with in that piece, vaughanB and the water in the well looks pretty murky too.

Fin.
To each their own, Robert. Too many opinions to waste time on......... There are more important things.... :-|
I don't really have 'opinions', Mart where digital cameras are concerned. I just accept them for what they are and make the best of them.

And it's important to me that discussions/debates are not laced with the distractions in your quote which are indicative of very shaky ground.

Thank you for contributing, Mart...and now, Fin!
And a statement that goes along the lines of "you must be wrong because I read some reviews that say otherwise" shows a naive lack of critical thinking
 
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Look, friend - although I have already written 'Fin' to your previous post, I regard the accusation that I'm naive and lack critical thinking to be so ad hominem that I have to break silence.

So now I'll resort to ad hominem in that I find you offensive and manipulative, the latter typical of the wannabe politician you once were (are?) and with the attention-seeking that entails. I called you out on expressing your prejudices as facts and you don't like it. This is a forum for the discussion of the technical aspects and performance of Kodak/Pixpro cameras, so why talk of other brands here. It seems to me you just come here to beat your chest and I've never seen you trying to help anyone who has a problem. You have been accused of trolling on at least two other forums for similar statements that I have confronted you with on this forum.

Critical thinking indeed! The girl I chose for a wife seventy years ago is still with me. Where's the one you first chose? No need to answer that as I'm sure most regulars on KTF know, so in that respect at least I can claim to be a critical thinker. The publisher of the fishing magazine that I edit seems to think so too.

So, I've said my piece and I shall expect any moderator to remove it. You may expedite that by activating the Complain button as I shall expedite your absence from DPReview by activating the Ignore button as soon as I've posted this. I can do without prejudiced self-opinionated characters who bites the hand that feeds them.
 
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Just seen this silly little rant :-).....must be your age, never mind :-)

A bit hard to stick to discussions of Kodak cameras only when Kodak have gone bust, if we all stuck to that rule this forum would die overnight
 
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I had some fun and looked at some P880 pics. Something's I say are IMO but if you check me, do the homework, you will find I am probably right. The P880 pic output was designed for enthusiasts. Not point and shoot. The P880 to this day has one of the best color and hue accuracy ratings. Moreover where it errs in hue is Kodak's know how, its Kodak science. I see the same type color from MF cameras using Kodak's Medium Format CCD sensors (don't own one however). The lens is simply great for a zoom lens equal to 24mm-140mm f/2.8-4.5. The P880 base is ISO50. Also the sensor was a bit bigger than ones used in say the Z712. It had 8mp, at the time leading APC dSLRs had around 10mp.

In other words it was conservative and faithful to the color and overall image. Letting the end user do as they wished. It had RAW output but I shot jpeg back then. I now only shoot raw.

If you can, view them at original size. Each was picked to show some aspect of performance. Yep, don't have the camera, but I have at least hundreds if not more pictures from my P880(s)!

First picture of the cell phone antenna has very minor PP (maybe). But no CA or PF reduction. This is amazing performance for this type of scene for a lens wide open showing almost no CA, better than most at CA and PF control. when I went to dSLRs and saw it I did not know what is was and thought my lens was defective (dSLR lens).


140mm

The next picture has no PP its to show color accuracy of the P880. And hue accuracy.

Yes this picture is kind of dull. But its suppose to be. Its Kodak color, the accurate side, not bright and punchy side. There is PP room in this jpeg.



last pic is with the lens at 24mm f/5 iso50 and some PP. Very capable camera for its time. No need to change lens. And lots of fun!



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Hi Jarrod,

It's so good to see that one of Kodak's best point and shoots have outlasted the company. I don't know where mine is but I know it doesn't have high mileage on it. I got the newer ones towards the end and still use them occasionally. I'm just glad we have this site to come back to to share these oldie but goodies.
 
It amazes me that people have to argue in order to create this forum's longest thread in 5 or more years. Then again, looking at the other forums, maybe we were way overdue.

The P880 was ahead of its time. Like I always say, it was one lens mount away from starting the MILC trend. Nikon 1, EOS-M, and micro four thirds were still in the future.

And as for Kodak being dead, the AZ526 seems reasonably popular these days. I also have the S-1, which performs well with a unique autofocus that beats a comparable Olympus in low light, a 12-45mm kit lens that just barely outperforms the Olympus 14-42 II R, internal battery charging, and much more simple menus.

I wonder what the future holds when JK Imaging's trademark licensing expires...hey, I'm the first one to say that!

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It amazes me that people have to argue in order to create this forum's longest thread in 5 or more years. Then again, looking at the other forums, maybe we were way overdue.

The P880 was ahead of its time. Like I always say, it was one lens mount away from starting the MILC trend. Nikon 1, EOS-M, and micro four thirds were still in the future.

And as for Kodak being dead, the AZ526 seems reasonably popular these days. I also have the S-1, which performs well with a unique autofocus that beats a comparable Olympus in low light, a 12-45mm kit lens that just barely outperforms the Olympus 14-42 II R, internal battery charging, and much more simple menus.

I wonder what the future holds when JK Imaging's trademark licensing expires...hey, I'm the first one to say that!

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The AZ series cams have done very well for JK Imaging and I suspect they will continue on, especially in light of their video 360 degree camera that is really grabbing market share and continues to win awards. They were the first in the 360 Ultra HD at 4K and have garnered praise from professional videographers.

While I love the older Kodak cameras (Z990 and Z915) these new Pixpro cams have very good glass and IS. If one does their part, IQ is equal to the Panny FZ200 (I own one), Canon SX50 (previously owned one), and the Nikon P530. Two standout areas for me are the Kodak rich colors and spot on white balance. My S-1 (M4/3 cam) has given me many good images with lenses that appear to optically excellent.

I've never owned the P880, but the images look outstanding and are right there with the best small sensor cams even today.

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