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Hi, which is the advantage or when mode A may be helpful ?

AF-S is for static subject with easy focus lock (half shutter release button)

AF-C is for moving subject, focus lock with AE/AF-L button.

AF-A is auto AF-S/C with focus lock with AE/AF-L if I am right, I learned later....I tought it worked as AF-S for static subject, but when I change framing with half shutter release for lock, I did many out of focus pics during a burst!

I ate this confusing A mode, S or C are simpler! Am I missing something?

How do these modes work in burst after a focus lock for a new framing?

Thanks
 
Hi, which is the advantage or when mode A may be helpful ?

AF-S is for static subject with easy focus lock (half shutter release button)

AF-C is for moving subject, focus lock with AE/AF-L button.

AF-A is auto AF-S/C with focus lock with AE/AF-L if I am right, I learned later....I tought it worked as AF-S for static subject, but when I change framing with half shutter release for lock, I did many out of focus pics during a burst!

I ate this confusing A mode, S or C are simpler! Am I missing something?

How do these modes work in burst after a focus lock for a new framing?

Thanks
Use AF-C for everything except for when you need to use a remote then use AF-S
 
Hi, which is the advantage or when mode A may be helpful ?

AF-S is for static subject with easy focus lock (half shutter release button)

AF-C is for moving subject, focus lock with AE/AF-L button.

AF-A is auto AF-S/C with focus lock with AE/AF-L if I am right, I learned later....I tought it worked as AF-S for static subject, but when I change framing with half shutter release for lock, I did many out of focus pics during a burst!

I ate this confusing A mode, S or C are simpler! Am I missing something?

How do these modes work in burst after a focus lock for a new framing?

Thanks
It all depends on how you have your continuous focus priority set. If you want to use continuous shutter, then to get focusing, you have to set the menu to focus priority. By default, continuous focus priority is set for release.

AF-C is for continuous shooting. If you have this set to focus priority release, it will focus on only the first shot and the rest will not focus.

AF-S is for single exposures. If the focus priority is to focus, then it will run autofocus on every single shot.
 
Hi, which is the advantage or when mode A may be helpful ?

AF-S is for static subject with easy focus lock (half shutter release button)

AF-C is for moving subject, focus lock with AE/AF-L button.

AF-A is auto AF-S/C with focus lock with AE/AF-L if I am right, I learned later....I tought it worked as AF-S for static subject, but when I change framing with half shutter release for lock, I did many out of focus pics during a burst!

I ate this confusing A mode, S or C are simpler! Am I missing something?
With AF-A, the camera makes the focusing decisions for you. Experienced shooters do not use AF-A. If you want to learn how to focus properly, do not use it.
How do these modes work in burst after a focus lock for a new framing?

Thanks
AF-S: When the camera finds focus, it stops making any more focus adjustments. If you focus and then recompose (change framing), focus does not change.

AF-C: Focus keeps adjusting as a subject moves. If you recompose, focus will adjust.

A technique popular with users of this forum is back button focusing. Pressing the shutter does not activate focus. Focus mode is always AF-C, but both AF-S and AF-C behavior are possible. It requires practice, but is very flexible.
 
It all depends on how you have your continuous focus priority set. If you want to use continuous shutter, then to get focusing, you have to set the menu to focus priority. By default, continuous focus priority is set for release.

AF-C is for continuous shooting. If you have this set to focus priority release, it will focus on only the first shot and the rest will not focus.

AF-S is for single exposures. If the focus priority is to focus, then it will run autofocus on every single shot.
I'm not sure if you meant exactly what you wrote here, but your statements are very misleading, if read literally.

Focus Priority is not required in order to have the camera perform focusing. You still have AF working when Release priority is selected - it is just that the user is able to take a photo when the AF system doesn't think the focus is within its "window of perfection."

This can be important in action photography, where the timing of the shot needs to be very precise, to catch a position or moment where a slight mis-focus does not matter as much as a slight timing miss would. Using focus priority in action photography can be annoying, to say the least, because the camera is quite finicky about having focus perfect before it allows the shot to be taken.

AF modes, in order of preference (best first):

AF-C only means continuous focus, not continuous shooting. It is useful for both bursts and for single frames, and gives you full-time subject tracking. If you have your camera set up for back-button focusing, there is no need to use any other AF mode.

AF-S means the AF will lock, i.e., stop operating after the camera thinks good focus is achieved. It is most useful for focus-and-recompose, but could also be used for burst shooting if you do not want the camera to refocus during the burst. Personally, I never use AF-S unless I am in a focus-and-recompose situation, but even then, the alternative of using back-button focusing may be better. The camera may perform subject tracking in this mode, if it thinks the subject is moving, but my experience is that this cannot be counted on.

AF-A allows the camera to make its own decision about whether AF-S or AF-C is most appropriate. This is only for users who don't understand AF-S and AF-C. It can be rather unpredictable, and the fact that it isn't offered on the pro cameras should tell you something. I call this mode AF-Avoid.

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It all depends on how you have your continuous focus priority set. If you want to use continuous shutter, then to get focusing, you have to set the menu to focus priority. By default, continuous focus priority is set for release.

AF-C is for continuous shooting. If you have this set to focus priority release, it will focus on only the first shot and the rest will not focus.

AF-S is for single exposures. If the focus priority is to focus, then it will run autofocus on every single shot.
I'm not sure if you meant exactly what you wrote here, but your statements are very misleading, if read literally.

Focus Priority is not required in order to have the camera perform focusing. You still have AF working when Release priority is selected - it is just that the user is able to take a photo when the AF system doesn't think the focus is within its "window of perfection."

This can be important in action photography, where the timing of the shot needs to be very precise, to catch a position or moment where a slight mis-focus does not matter as much as a slight timing miss would. Using focus priority in action photography can be annoying, to say the least, because the camera is quite finicky about having focus perfect before it allows the shot to be taken.

AF modes, in order of preference (best first):

AF-C only means continuous focus, not continuous shooting. It is useful for both bursts and for single frames, and gives you full-time subject tracking. If you have your camera set up for back-button focusing, there is no need to use any other AF mode.

AF-S means the AF will lock, i.e., stop operating after the camera thinks good focus is achieved. It is most useful for focus-and-recompose, but could also be used for burst shooting if you do not want the camera to refocus during the burst. Personally, I never use AF-S unless I am in a focus-and-recompose situation, but even then, the alternative of using back-button focusing may be better. The camera may perform subject tracking in this mode, if it thinks the subject is moving, but my experience is that this cannot be counted on.

AF-A allows the camera to make its own decision about whether AF-S or AF-C is most appropriate. This is only for users who don't understand AF-S and AF-C. It can be rather unpredictable, and the fact that it isn't offered on the pro cameras should tell you something. I call this mode AF-Avoid.
 
Marianne, your explanation was great! Thank you very much. I thought A mode was a better solution, but when I tried it, I was really disappointed, my previous camera was a D300, it did not have it. Yes A is for AVOID!

“If you have your camera set up for back-button focusing, there is no need to use any other AF mode”

Do you mean to set AE/AF-L button to focus only and set the camera to AF-C?

I have to try it, but I think this AF-C with BBF is helpful for recompose frame and bursts in a not frenetic situation, in this case the standard AF-C with AE/AF-L for lock is better or maybe it needs only practice.

Thanks
 
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Marianne, your explanation was great! Thank you very much. I thought A mode was a better solution, but when I tried it, I was really disappointed, my previous camera was a D300, it did not have it. Yes A is for AVOID!

“If you have your camera set up for back-button focusing, there is no need to use any other AF mode”

Do you mean to set AE/AF-L button to focus only and set the camera to AF-C?

I have to try it, but I think this AF-C with BBF is helpful for recompose frame and bursts in a not frenetic situation, in this case the standard AF-C with AE/AF-L for lock is better or maybe it needs only practice.

Thanks
Hi.

What is better is individual and comes up to personal preferences :-)

But - with the AE-/AF-L button set as "AF-ON" you will have nearly all AF-functions with using AF-C and one button (the "AF-ON") only, including compose/recompose.



This is a few tutorials for the item - if you like video tutorials (which I hate :-) ) just search the net for "Back Button Focus".

You are right - it's a matter of practice - but first got used to - I'll make a bet - you'll never use the shutter-button for focusing again :-)

Regards

BirgerH.

P.S.: By the way, Mariannes explanations are always great :-)
 
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It all depends on how you have your continuous focus priority set. If you want to use continuous shutter, then to get focusing, you have to set the menu to focus priority. By default, continuous focus priority is set for release.

AF-C is for continuous shooting. If you have this set to focus priority release, it will focus on only the first shot and the rest will not focus.

AF-S is for single exposures. If the focus priority is to focus, then it will run autofocus on every single shot.
I'm not sure if you meant exactly what you wrote here, but your statements are very misleading, if read literally.

Focus Priority is not required in order to have the camera perform focusing. You still have AF working when Release priority is selected - it is just that the user is able to take a photo when the AF system doesn't think the focus is within its "window of perfection."

This can be important in action photography, where the timing of the shot needs to be very precise, to catch a position or moment where a slight mis-focus does not matter as much as a slight timing miss would. Using focus priority in action photography can be annoying, to say the least, because the camera is quite finicky about having focus perfect before it allows the shot to be taken.

AF modes, in order of preference (best first):

AF-C only means continuous focus, not continuous shooting. It is useful for both bursts and for single frames, and gives you full-time subject tracking. If you have your camera set up for back-button focusing, there is no need to use any other AF mode.

AF-S means the AF will lock, i.e., stop operating after the camera thinks good focus is achieved. It is most useful for focus-and-recompose, but could also be used for burst shooting if you do not want the camera to refocus during the burst. Personally, I never use AF-S unless I am in a focus-and-recompose situation, but even then, the alternative of using back-button focusing may be better. The camera may perform subject tracking in this mode, if it thinks the subject is moving, but my experience is that this cannot be counted on.

AF-A allows the camera to make its own decision about whether AF-S or AF-C is most appropriate. This is only for users who don't understand AF-S and AF-C. It can be rather unpredictable, and the fact that it isn't offered on the pro cameras should tell you something. I call this mode AF-Avoid.
 
I was writing about the focus priority setting. To make things simple, if you have your camera set for continuous shooting and af-c is set to focus, then all of the shots will be focused before each exposure is taken. This is tiresome for sports because you might miss the moment of impact while the camera is focusing.

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Hi Cliff.

"AF-C is for continuous shooting. If you have this set to focus priority release, it will focus on only the first shot and the rest will not focus."

Yes - and no.

There is a chance to get some unfocused shots, with the priority set to "release" - but it's not the way, the AF system is ment to work.

When using AF-C, there is a kind of focus lock too - the camera tries to lock focus at a (moving) subject - in contrary to AF-S, where the camera locks focus at a distance.

When trying to lock focus on a moving subject, the initial focus-point can shortly loose the subject, while another point takes over, keeping the subject in focus. The difference between "release" and "focus" is, that in that short moment, when the initial point looses the focus and another takes over, you are still able to get a focused image by using "release". Using "focus", the camera will not shoot.

BirgerH.
 
Every time you ask the camera to perform a function, you slow down burst rate. If burst rate is not an issue, then keep autofocus in AF-C. If constant focusing is annoying, then AF-A, but if you are not sure what A is trying to do, then AF-S fix focus until when you want to refocus again.
 
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When trying to lock focus on a moving subject, the initial focus-point can shortly loose the subject, while another point takes over, keeping the subject in focus. The difference between "release" and "focus" is, that in that short moment, when the initial point looses the focus and another takes over, you are still able to get a focused image by using "release". Using "focus", the camera will not shoot.
When the camera is tracking a subject that is moving toward or away from the camera, AF operation is typically step-wise (there are exceptions, such as with the 200 f/2, the AF motor can run continuously). Just before the AF commands each corrective step, it is briefly in an "out of focus" state.

With focus priority selected, if you press the shutter release at that exact moment, there will be a small delay before AF adjusts and returns to "in focus" and the shutter cycle is allowed to start. Thus delays can occur even when there is no change of AF point.
 
Hi, which is the advantage or when mode A may be helpful ?

AF-S is for static subject with easy focus lock (half shutter release button)

AF-C is for moving subject, focus lock with AE/AF-L button.

AF-A is auto AF-S/C with focus lock with AE/AF-L if I am right, I learned later....I tought it worked as AF-S for static subject, but when I change framing with half shutter release for lock, I did many out of focus pics during a burst!

I ate this confusing A mode, S or C are simpler! Am I missing something?

How do these modes work in burst after a focus lock for a new framing?

Thanks
It all depends on how you have your continuous focus priority set. If you want to use continuous shutter, then to get focusing, you have to set the menu to focus priority. By default, continuous focus priority is set for release.

AF-C is for continuous shooting. If you have this set to focus priority release, it will focus on only the first shot and the rest will not focus.
Yes and no. If you use back button focus, then you can still use AF-C but remove your thumb from the back button focus once focus is achieved and thus stop AF-C operation, ie quasi AF-S. I generally always use AF-C as there is no advantage to AF-S unless I am using remote control.

AF-C is a good option even for static subject matter you may sway back and forth a little thus moving focus point back or forth and if you use AF-C then any movement you make is negated by continual focus.
AF-S is for single exposures. If the focus priority is to focus, then it will run autofocus on every single shot.

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