Recommend a two camera set up for travel

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I'm going on the trip of a lifetime next summer, hitting famous cities and national parks for four months. I'm going to spend the time between now and then assembling the perfect camera set up. I'd like your input. Here is what I can tell you:

1) I want to upload frequently to the cloud.

2) I've got a total budget of $10,000 for the gear, but don't feel compelled to spend it all.

3) I envision the primary end product being a printed photo book. I DO NOT prioritize being able to blow up an image to the size of a bus.

4) My thought is to use the HoldFast Moneymaker strap with two bodies. But which bodies and which lenses?

5) I like the option of manual controls.
 
There are a huge number of alternatives and a fairly simple single camera alternative like a Sony RX10 MkIII or Panasonic FZ1000 might do for the whole trip. Can you give us give us more information to narrow things down:
  1. What exactly do you want to photograph? Landscapes, wildlife, city streets, people?
  2. Why do you think that you need two cameras?
  3. Why do you think that you need two cameras available on the same strap at the same time? What do you want to photograph that requires this rather than just a normal zoom range lens on a single camera?
  4. How important is size/weight? Are you going to be travelling by car or will you be flying from location to location?
  5. Are you going to take a tripod?
  6. What camera do you have at the moment?
  7. How experienced a photographer are you?
  8. What type of photography do you want to use the camera(s) for after you return?
  9. Any other information that you can give us.
 
1) Landscapes, city streets, interiors
2) I want a back up in case one body fails, and I don't want to have to carry a camera bag (well, I suppose I will need one, but I want to leave it in the hotel), and I don't want to have to swap lenses in the field.
3) I don't want to wear the camera around by neck. I've borrowed a friend's Sony RX-10 Mk III and although I like the camera the physical experience is very unpleasant after three hours. Which is why I want to explore the harness style.
4) DISTRIBUTED weight is OK (ie across the two halves of the harness), but I don't want a superlong lens that sticks out 7 or 8 inches from the body. Car travel.
5) No tripod.
6) The borrowed Sony RX-10 Mk III, which I have to give back soon!
7) Not at all, but I will be by the time we leave. I'm very good at teaching myself.
8) Unimportant
 
1) Landscapes, city streets, interiors
Then you don't need a long telephoto lens and you can look at fixed lens cameras like the Sony RX100 MkIV and Panasonic LX100.
2) I want a back up in case one body fails, and I don't want to have to carry a camera bag (well, I suppose I will need one, but I want to leave it in the hotel), and I don't want to have to swap lenses in the field.
You can leave the backup in the hotel. Camera failures are rare and you certainly don't need to carry the backup with you. In fact, if you are travelling around the US you will almost certainly be able to buy a backup if something happens to your first camera.
3) I don't want to wear the camera around by neck. I've borrowed a friend's Sony RX-10 Mk III and although I like the camera the physical experience is very unpleasant after three hours. Which is why I want to explore the harness style.
The RX10 is a pretty big camera. For what you want to photograph the RX100 is fine and is far smaller. Note that there are camera harnesses available for cameras like the ones available for binoculars. OpTech makes one. The problem with this kind of harness is that it is very difficult to hand the camera to anybody else, e.g. for somebody to take a picture of you.

I suggest that read this review of Compact Enthusiast Zoom Cameras . Go into a camera store and try a few out for size/feel.

If you do want to take a backup with you, make sure that it is the same make and preferably the same camera - you don't want to have to learn two different camera systems.
 
My approach was to take 2 M4/3 bodies. Not for backup, but to cut down on the lens changing -

3) I envision the primary end product being a printed photo book.
M4/3 can do this, with some care in post processing. If your intent is to do no PP at all, then a full frame camera will be needed. The weight difference is considerable.
2) I want a back up in case one body fails, and I don't want to have to carry a camera bag (well, I suppose I will need one, but I want to leave it in the hotel), and I don't want to have to swap lenses in the field.
I sometimes do this with a couple of medium size bags instead of one huge bag. Take just 1 smaller bag out for the day's shooting. A super zoom can eliminate swapping lenses. I just don't enjoy soft corners in my pictures enough for that.
3) I don't want to wear the camera around by neck. I've borrowed a friend's Sony RX-10 Mk III and although I like the camera the physical experience is very unpleasant after three hours. Which is why I want to explore the harness style.
4) DISTRIBUTED weight is OK (ie across the two halves of the harness), but I don't want a superlong lens that sticks out 7 or 8 inches from the body. Car travel.
All more reasons to use a medium size shoulder bag. A cross shoulder strap carry for the bag will not be nearly as uncomfortable as a neck strap. Any lens that sticks out 7 or 8 inches is a pretty long telephoto!

Kelly Cook
 
I'm quite comfortable with Photoshop - is that what you mean by post processing? I'm not quite clear on why you say one would require PP and the other would not, could you explain?
 
Yes, Photoshop is an example of post processing.

Small sensor images, M4/3 and APS-C, need a touch of clarity or sharpening or both in post. With a full frame size sensor (Canon 6D, Nikon D610, Sony A7, etc) the image straight out of the camera is crisp enough to skip this (sometimes).

Kelly
 
I'm going on the trip of a lifetime next summer, hitting famous cities and national parks for four months. I'm going to spend the time between now and then assembling the perfect camera set up. I'd like your input. Here is what I can tell you:

1) I want to upload frequently to the cloud.

2) I've got a total budget of $10,000 for the gear, but don't feel compelled to spend it all.

3) I envision the primary end product being a printed photo book. I DO NOT prioritize being able to blow up an image to the size of a bus.

4) My thought is to use the HoldFast Moneymaker strap with two bodies. But which bodies and which lenses?

5) I like the option of manual controls.
Without any experience in photography at all you for sure want to learn the gear long before you leave.

10k for somebody about to learn to shoot is imho stupid since budget does not relate to the quality of your photos, experience does.

If you buy smart you'll get what you need way under $3000 (body, fast prime and wide angle zoom and batteries, maybe a filter).

With the remaining 7k you could take another trip.

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Cheers Mike
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I'm not just "about to learn to shoot". But I'm also not overstating my abilities. Since I said I'm not willing to mess with carrying and swapping lenses when I'm out and about, is your recommendation two bodies, with with a fast prime and one with a wide angle zoom?
 
I'm not just "about to learn to shoot". But I'm also not overstating my abilities. Since I said I'm not willing to mess with carrying and swapping lenses when I'm out and about, is your recommendation two bodies, with with a fast prime and one with a wide angle zoom?
My advice on travel is carry as less as possible.

Four months with two bodies would drive me nuts!

For your subjects get a 16-35 or thereabout and a 35 or 50(eq) fast prime and be done.

Change the lens once a day (for low light the prime, in the daytime the WA zoom).

Still got no idea what level of experience you have but wanting two bodies and lenses I assume you haven't travelled a lot.

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I've traveled a great deal. Which is why I'm not going to be messing around with a lot of gear in a camera bag and changing lenses. And low light doesn't just happen in the evenings.
 
I've traveled a great deal. Which is why I'm not going to be messing around with a lot of gear in a camera bag and changing lenses. And low light doesn't just happen in the evenings.
Well I change a lens in less than 15 seconds, it is really no big deal.

I have shlepped a Canon 7D+15-85 (all that I had with me) and was done after just two days. Bought a Fuji X100 love it.

Since I also want to shoot some event I got a Sony A7 and with small primes this is absolutely fantastic.

Strangely you seems to know what you want so why don't you just buy two bodies and be done with it :)
 
1) Landscapes, city streets, interiors
2) I want a back up in case one body fails, and I don't want to have to carry a camera bag (well, I suppose I will need one, but I want to leave it in the hotel), and I don't want to have to swap lenses in the field.
3) I don't want to wear the camera around by neck. I've borrowed a friend's Sony RX-10 Mk III and although I like the camera the physical experience is very unpleasant after three hours. Which is why I want to explore the harness style.
4) DISTRIBUTED weight is OK (ie across the two halves of the harness), but I don't want a superlong lens that sticks out 7 or 8 inches from the body. Car travel.
5) No tripod.
6) The borrowed Sony RX-10 Mk III, which I have to give back soon!
7) Not at all, but I will be by the time we leave. I'm very good at teaching myself.
8) Unimportant
I admire your optimism but I personally think one or two RX10iii's and maybe a HoldFast SightSeer sling strap will cover all the bases. You're right, using a neck strap is the wrong way to carry a camera, a sling strap or a double harness is the way to go. Get the little pouch to keep spare batteries, memory cards and any personal incidentals like keys, ID, credit card, etc. Keep the spare RX in the hotel safe.

Let's see, I'm no Canon fan but let's say you get two Canon D80's, a 17-85mm for general shooting and a 10-22mm for wide angle interior shots and carry them around using that very nice leather double harness setup. That's a like carrying around a 5lb sack of flour, albeit half on each side, all day long for months. I admit it, I'm a sissy wuss and I couldn't do that.
 
I'm going on the trip of a lifetime next summer, hitting famous cities and national parks for four months. I'm going to spend the time between now and then assembling the perfect camera set up. I'd like your input. Here is what I can tell you:

1) I want to upload frequently to the cloud.
I don't do that but I would suggest, and this forms some of the thoughts I have, that you consider that there may be places where perhaps for several days, that's not necessarily an option or easy. Thinking about western areas, national parks, etc., but that may depend on your itinerary and where you might be staying. If always in established lodges, motels, etc., and/or with access to phone/cell service, I'd guess it's not an issue.
2) I've got a total budget of $10,000 for the gear, but don't feel compelled to spend it all.

3) I envision the primary end product being a printed photo book. I DO NOT prioritize being able to blow up an image to the size of a bus.

4) My thought is to use the HoldFast Moneymaker strap with two bodies. But which bodies and which lenses?
I like the idea of two bodies/lenses more or less available as there may be times or places where lens swaps aren't possible. I like the idea of not just using neck straps and distributing weight in more comfortable, effective ways. I wouldn't forget that there is always a possibility of bad weather or the need to secure or pack away gear and there may be some places where you don't want to be ""That "guy."" that just doesn't fit in because they have two cameras dangling out there on a harness of some sort and you become part of the show for other tourists entertainment.

I don't think you need to duplicate systems although it's handier if there is some redundancy. Not every place has easy or at least fast access to replacement gear. If traveling by vehicle where you aren't too constrained by available space or weight concerns, I kind of think I'd consider one body aimed at dynamic subject matter like moving animals, birds, longer range/longer focal lengths on a dslr, the other body could be a mirrorless or smaller dslr aimed around urban, ease of carry, lighter, long walks with less gear scenarios. Places like Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons with vehicles relatively nearby to support long lenses and decent tripods, even for landscapes, not just longish nature shots call for somewhat different gear than an all day walk around Washington, DC, in the summer heat and humidity.
5) I like the option of manual controls.
That should be possible with most gear out there. I don't think we'd have any trouble spending all of your money. I'm thinking the most flexibility but perhaps somewhat less lens availability is found in the Sony systems, you can go mirror less in the E mounts and transition to the A mount cameras to cover some of the longer range or more dynamic subject matter. It's also possible to adapt Canon lenses and that might give the option of the Sony at the smaller. lighter end and the Canon dslr family for the "big guns."

Nothing specific but just some thinking points.
 
Sony a6300 + sony 10-18 + sony 16-70 + sony 55-210 + zeiss 24mm + sony 50mm 1.8

i think this can cover pretty much anything and everything without compromising on quality and compactness for travelling.
 
What a great problem to have. This is what I would do/am working on having.

Cameras:

1. Sony RX1r II: $3300

2. Olympus EM1 ($900), I think a replacement is coming this fall.

Lenses:

1. Olympus 7-14mm, f2.8 ($1100)

2. Olympus 12-40, f2.8 ($800)

3. Olympus 40-150, f2.8 ($1300)

4. Olympus 1.4x teleconverter ($350)

Storage

1. My Passport Wireless Pro (for on the road w/ wireless back up to home NAS, 3TB $250)

2. My Cloud Pro Series NAS (for at home, $700)

Accessaries

1. Gorilla pod ($50)

2. Lee Seven5 Deluxe Kit for Olympus 12-40 ($600)

3. A few SD cards ($100)

4. Everyday messenger bag ($220)

Laptop

1. Your choice $1500

That's pretty close to $10,000.
 
I just took the plunge on a simulair delima. I travel often for work, 60% or more and only like to bring carry on so space is important. I also don't do any pro shooting, photos are just for me and family so I don't need a lot of the accessories others do.

I recently purchase an nx500 when they went on sale (briefly). I now have the 12-24, 30, 50-200, and the 16-50 power zoom.

I have been been so happy with the small size and quality that I took the plunge and just purchased an NX1 with the 16-50 s lens. Now I will have high quality in a small package. But also the viewfinder and larger camera for car or big bag trips. My rational to buy into a dead system is:

im not a pro so a lot of the accessories and room to grow don't matter

i have used the Sony a6000 and panny lx200, really miss the touch screen on the Sony and the kit lens is garbage. The panny is not very useful in auto mode when you want to get off a quick photo (imho) both are great cameras but neither good enough for me to take the plung

I figure I will have the sammys for 5-10 years, who knows what crazy camera and lens tech we will have then. I will have freedoms to buy into a new system instead of being shackled to say Cannons lousy mirror less of 2025 ;-)

Sammy did just release another firmware update so it works really well with mobile again.

anyway my two cents and way under the $10,000 budget
 

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