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Yesterday, we went down to the river before the European Soccer Championship games for the day started on TV, me bringing the Sigma 150-600 Sport, the V1, and the D3300 (the latter as backup).

We had brought with us a couple of slices of bread, hoping to lure some birds closer, but in essence none took any notice to begin with.

Common gulls, and jackdaws, were in the area, on and off circulating the area, plus a couple of grey-hooded crows, and some heftier gulls out on the river.

Eventually, after an hour os so, a common gull started feeding on the bread crumbs, and a jackdaw soon joined, and a crow, and a herring gull. It ended with a feeding galore, involving a number of jackdaws.

Here is some shots — most shots taken with the V1 had to be scrapped, as the V1 used with the Sigma 150-600 Sport doesn't well work with anti-shake on, when mounted on a monopod (even worse on a tripod!).

With the D3300 the monopod worked like a dream, anti-shake on!

Here some sample shots:


A brasher male common gull claiming the bread as his. The jackdaw seems sceptical.


Mine, mine, mine ...


A hooded crow taking his/her share of the loot.


As I wrote, the jackdaw looked less than impressed by the common gull's shrieking!


Then came the biggest bird of the day, a herring gull! Pretty massive close up!


A young jackdaw with a tiny piece of the loot!


A young, bit shy, common gull, sitting on a lane marker in the middle of the river.


The crow kept an eye on the loot, long before it snatched a piece of its own. Odd OOF effects!

Today we've been 'calibrating' the various Nikons we have, and found that the V1 should be set at -1 EV, anti-shake off, when used with the Sigma 150-600 Sport, the J5 +0.33 EV (or even +0-67), the V2 to 0 EV, and the D3300 to + 0.33 EV, while the D600 to -0.33, or -0.7, EV.

When used with the 70-200/4.0G the D600 was spot on, while the D3300 and V2 were better at +0.33- -0.67 EV, and the V1 0 EV, as well.

When trying other F Mount lenses, like the 40 macro, they behaved very much in the same way.

The 70-300CX ended up somewhere in between, the V1 at -0.33 EV, the V2 at 0 EV, and the J5 at + 0.33 EV.

Generally the V1 and the D600 behaves very much like they were twins, needing 0 - -0.33 EV, and the J5 and the D3300 behaved very much alike as well, needing a slightly positive EV compensation, say +0.33 - +0.67 EV, all the time.

The Tamron 70-300 VC, behaves very much like the F Mount lenses I have, thus no nasty surprises.

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Tord_2 (at) photographer (dot) net
Mostly Nikon V1, V2, J5, & D600, user
 

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Tord, I'm also glad to see you can get out and enjoy yourself. Corvids are such wonderful entertaining birds.

I have seen people post photos with 'nervous bokeh' from the 200-500 other threads on DPR. It sounds like this is the first time you've come across it.
 
Tord, I'm also glad to see you can get out and enjoy yourself. Corvids are such wonderful entertaining birds.
Indeed they are! Had a jackdaw as a kid, even made the news she/he did
I have seen people post photos with 'nervous bokeh' from the 200-500 other threads on DPR. It sounds like this is the first time you've come across it.
Indeed the first time!

But that the VR/OIS ON place such a problem, when used on a tripod, or monopod, was even more news to me, but noticed it again last night when I tried to shoot a nearby antenna complex. The result was miserable, indeed!

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Tord_2 (at) photographer (dot) net
Mostly Nikon V1, V2, J5, & D600, user
 
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Tord, I'm also glad to see you can get out and enjoy yourself. Corvids are such wonderful entertaining birds.
Indeed they are! Had a jackdaw as a kid, even made the news she/he did
I have seen people post photos with 'nervous bokeh' from the 200-500 other threads on DPR. It sounds like this is the first time you've come across it.
Indeed the first time!

But that the VR/OIS ON place such a problem, when used on a tripod, or monopod, was even more news to me, but noticed it again last night when I tried to shoot a nearby antenna complex. The result was miserable, indeed!
It may actually be worse when the camera is on a tripod. VR depends on an oscillating element in the lens. If the camera is completely stable (as on a tripod) the oscillations then cause blur, so you should switch VR off when the camera's on a tripod. Moreover, since the element oscillates at something like 500-1000 Hxz (ie 500-1000 times per second), using VR in combination with shutter speeds greater than 1/500 - 1/1000 will cause blur. Even when handheld, you will get sharper pictures if you switch VR off about these sorts of shutter speeds.

Lucky you having a jackdaw as a pet! The Nobel prize-winning ethologist Konrad Lorenz kept a colony of tame jackdaws. The only downside was that they would try and courtship feed him, and since he didn't open his mout for them, they would try and stuff a gob full of worms in his ears!
 
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Tord, I'm also glad to see you can get out and enjoy yourself. Corvids are such wonderful entertaining birds.
Indeed they are! Had a jackdaw as a kid, even made the news she/he did
I have seen people post photos with 'nervous bokeh' from the 200-500 other threads on DPR. It sounds like this is the first time you've come across it.
Indeed the first time!

But that the VR/OIS ON place such a problem, when used on a tripod, or monopod, was even more news to me, but noticed it again last night when I tried to shoot a nearby antenna complex. The result was miserable, indeed!
It may actually be worse when the camera is on a tripod. VR depends on an oscillating element in the lens. If the camera is completely stable (as on a tripod) the oscillations then cause blur, so you should switch VR off when the camera's on a tripod. Moreover, since the element oscillates at something like 500-1000 Hxz (ie 500-1000 times per second), using VR in combination with shutter speeds greater than 1/500 - 1/1000 will cause blur. Even when handheld, you will get sharper pictures if you switch VR off about these sorts of shutter speeds.

Lucky you having a jackdaw as a pet! The Nobel prize-winning ethologist Konrad Lorenz kept a colony of tame jackdaws. The only downside was that they would try and courtship feed him, and since he didn't open his mout for them, they would try and stuff a gob full of worms in his ears!
Very helpful information!

My jackdaw eventually got a cold, coughed through the night, and then disappeared, probably eaten by a cat, but we found not a trace after it!
 
There were a couple of typos etc in what I wrote about VR. This nay make it (slightly) more comprehensible:

VR may actually make the image worse when the camera is on a tripod. VR depends on an oscillating element in the lens. If the camera is completely stable (as on a tripod) the oscillations then cause blur, so you should switch VR off when the camera's on a tripod (or other stable support). Moreover, since the element oscillates at something like 500-1000 Hz (ie 500-1000 times per second), using VR in combination with shutter speeds greater than 1/500 - 1/1000 will cause blur. Even when handheld, you will get sharper pictures if you switch VR off above these sorts of shutter speeds.
 
Nice, particularly the 3300 pics.
Thanks!

Almost all N1 images were crap, as I had the the anti-shake on, while using it on a monopod!

Next time I'll definitely try with VR/OS off, with the V2. And use a tripod!
 
There were a couple of typos etc in what I wrote about VR. This nay make it (slightly) more comprehensible:

VR may actually make the image worse when the camera is on a tripod. VR depends on an oscillating element in the lens. If the camera is completely stable (as on a tripod) the oscillations then cause blur, so you should switch VR off when the camera's on a tripod (or other stable support). Moreover, since the element oscillates at something like 500-1000 Hz (ie 500-1000 times per second), using VR in combination with shutter speeds greater than 1/500 - 1/1000 will cause blur. Even when handheld, you will get sharper pictures if you switch VR off above these sorts of shutter speeds.
Thanks, Merops!

Very clearly explained!

None of my previous lenses minded VR on, or off, but this one seems to do so! The 80-400 VR II supposedly turned off the VR, when attached to a tripod — never noticed any problems, anyway.

Had problems shooting the moon for some time ago, probably due to the same reason!

One never stops learning new things!
 
There were a couple of typos etc in what I wrote about VR. This nay make it (slightly) more comprehensible:

VR may actually make the image worse when the camera is on a tripod. VR depends on an oscillating element in the lens. If the camera is completely stable (as on a tripod) the oscillations then cause blur, so you should switch VR off when the camera's on a tripod (or other stable support). Moreover, since the element oscillates at something like 500-1000 Hz (ie 500-1000 times per second), using VR in combination with shutter speeds greater than 1/500 - 1/1000 will cause blur. Even when handheld, you will get sharper pictures if you switch VR off above these sorts of shutter speeds.
Thanks, Merops!

Very clearly explained!

None of my previous lenses minded VR on, or off, but this one seems to do so! The 80-400 VR II supposedly turned off the VR, when attached to a tripod — never noticed any problems, anyway.

Had problems shooting the moon for some time ago, probably due to the same reason!

One never stops learning new things!
I know that some Nikon lenses somehow 'know' that they are on a tripod and switch VR off. I just don't know which, so tend to switch VR off anyway, just in case. The only downside of switching lenses off unnecessarily is the risk of forgetting to switch them back on again :-(
 

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