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5DSr with older 24-105 and 17-40 lenses??

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KENTGA said:
for your comments. As previously mentioned, I'm 74 and find myself going out around home "to make photos" doesn't happen as much. It's not "spending the money" as much as the matter of principle about spending money if that makes sense. I've got some prime lenses and a couple of TS-E lenses that I have very, very seldom used.

Your images really "pop" and I know it's your equipment, your unwillingness to accept anything less than the best you can do and your persistence.
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If your images are not "popping" with a 6D, it is unlikely that upgrading to a 5DSr will bring you the "pop".

My guess is that a lack of "pop" is typically due to technique, post processing, or subject matter.

KENTGA said:
In the end, I'm going to go ahead and get the 5DS r and a better lens than the 17-40 and will think about chucking the 24-105. Somebody said in August Canon may introduce a new mid-range prime. We'll see. Also, if I'm going to upgrade, I'll upgrade to the 5DS r rather than 5DIV.
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Upgrading lenses can be a double edged sword with the 5DSr. Older lenses are not quite as sharp as newer lenses, and may act as a bit of an anti-aliasing filter.

If your lenses are extremely sharp, and there is a lot of fine detail in your images (i.e. grass, or fur on a bison), then you might end up with some moire with the 5DSr. If you intend on upgrading your lenses, you may want to consider the 5DS instead.

KENTGA said:
My main reason (justification) for the upgrades will be for future trips to Yellowstone/Teton, most of central to southern Utah, greater San Diego area and LA to SF or SF to LA and probably a couple of other places I haven't been to.
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Unless you are making huge prints to be viewed close up, or are dramatically cropping, you won't see much difference between a 5DSr and a 6D with these sorts of images.

If you are dramatically cropping, you get slightly better results from a 7DII. The 7DII has a higher pixel density that the 5DS, so your crop will have more pixels.
KENTGA said:
Bottom line is I can't believe the difference in the images from the 7D to the 6D when I upgraded and I'm hoping the same for the 6D > 5DS R.
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The difference from the 7D to the 6D are primarily due to sensor size. The 5DSr has the same sensor size as the 6D. You won't see that much of a difference.
KENTGA said:
Thanks again for your comments,

Kent
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I'm not saying that you shouldn't get the 5DSr. It's a great camera. I love my 5Ds. If you really want to have 50 megapixels and a great autofocus system, then go for it. However, if you are getting it because you want to improve what your prints look like, you may be disappointed.
 
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One more thought you might want to consider. A lot of gear heads preach the mantra of "better glass." Once again, if you're making really big enlargements, or if you enlarge after severe cropping, that advice makes sense.

However, within the context of 10x14 prints, I myself have considerable doubts that updated versions of the lenses you have will provide significantly noticeable differences in your final results. I'd check that out, if I were you, before making the investment.
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I find the 17-40L and 24-105L work pretty good with the 50MP body (5DS). Of course, the 17-40L's soft corners will still need to be mitigated, but that's a problem with all bodies (8 MP or 50MP).

Personally, I love the detail rich files. Unfortunately, I can't compare it to a 6D... The only real comparison I can make with it is against a 1D2N. And with the 1D2N, its cropped corners weren't much of a problem with the 17-40L. However, the detail difference is insane... as you would expect.

Here's a shot with the 17-40L. And yes... the comments about how sharp the images are when downsized are very accurate. I can't remember perfectly, but I think this shot had very little sharpening.





Here's a look at one of the 24-105L's shots... Again, very little sharpening. I don't really have any gripes with the 24-105L. It looks better with the 5DS, than it has on any other camera I've shot with it.

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I agree that the older lens works fine with the 5DSR. This was shot with 24-105. I know I used the lens with my original 5D. I do not know how old it is, but I have used it forever.

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KENTGA said:
Sorry to have to ask another question about whether or not to buy the 5DSr for future trips but have the above lenses that are 8 or so years old. I have a 6D and I made some photos with these lenses and blew them up to 100% and there was edge sharpness falloff--- especially on the 17-40 @ f/8. I compared both at 24mm.

My situation is I'm 74 years old and go on a couple of trips a year and am not on food stamps, but I don't want to invest in an 11-24 or 24-70 lens. Frankly, I've never printed anything large than 10" x 14" and don't know that I ever would.

A frequent responder on this forum has posted some to-die-for photos of the western US NP's that are to die for and he has 5DS r and 11-24, but he is a real pro.

Please give me your thoughts about whether or not the 5DS r would be worth the investment over the 6D or not with my "old" lenses.

Thanks,

Kent
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I would buy one excellent, relatively low cost prime to complement your set if you get a 5DSR. I love shooting mine with my 40mm/2.8 STM pancake lens. I own the 35/14.LII, 11-24 and some other wonderful lenses but have been very pleased with the results from the 40. It is sharp out to the edges even when completely wide open and can be a lot of fun to shoot with. I think it is only $175 and is an excellent complement to the 50MP body.

Personally, I think the 40STM is the unsung hero of the Canon lens lineup (especially as a complement to the 5DSR). That said, there are other excellent value primes like the 35/2IS, 24/2.8IS, 28/2.8IS or 135/2L if you want to splurge a bit more.
 
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