John Sheehy
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It seems? I did not claim in this current thread to be talking about practical choices. I did that in the thread which this one spun off of, and have done so in many threads at this website. I've written many times of empirical aspects of the choices:It seems like you just have a semantics issue with the word, not with the practical choices people are making, regardless of the word.I disagree with the idea of using the term "reach" at all in this context. I don't use it that way, and I recommend that no one else uses it that way.
A larger sensor, with the same lens and subject distance, allows more room for tracking a moving subject which might work its way out of the frame with a smaller sensor. Unless the larger sensor has a higher pixel density, however, it will capture less detail of the subject than the smaller sensor.
The metering and AF may be more relevant with a smaller sensor (and with a crop mode using the LCD and on-sensor AF).
The amount of light you get from the subject (exposure times area) for any given shutter speed has no relation to the sensor size, but rather, to the size of your effective physical aperture. IOW, a FF sensor does NOT work like a bigger antenna that is more sensitive to weak signals; only the lens does that.
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People do a lot of things that I wouldn't do. My goal is to help people be aware of the difference between scaling and proximity, real or apparent, and hope that at least a few people might adopt what I think is better terminology.Anyway, people are going to use the word to describe that desirable attribute regardless of your recommendation.
Well, none of this is as important as good health, finding sustainable energy and food sources, or Peace on Earth.No it doesn't. A long reach is a very desirable thing for a boxer to have. His goal it to punch the other guy without getting closer.That's my point. "Reaching" requires a change of perspective.
Most people think of reach as how far you can touch something without moving from your position. You only have to move if you can't reach it.
Wildlife photographers certainly want to get close, but there's always going to be a limit, and then they want reach. And if a 400mm lens on 24MP APS-C gives them more detail in a print than 400mm on 36MP FF, that gives them the reach they want.
I'm not sure why any of this should be controversial, unless you just want to argue the semantics of it. The important thing to the photographer is what he can do with the camera & lens, not the definition of the word "reach".
However, what I was talking about is the choice of the term "reach"; it is not used consistently with a single meaning among the people who use it, and it has implications which are not a good representation of what is happening.
Yes, long arms have more reach, because they get your hands closer to what you are interested in. Longer arms give you true reach for photographing flowers on the other side of the fence, or the interesting insect on your ceiling. So can a monopod and a remote release. For a bird 100 feet away, your arms are irrelevant and what matters is how big the subject is on your sensor, combined with how many pixels it falls on (both are desirable, but just one is still a plus). That is due to pixel density and magnification; not to anything that resembles actually reaching something. I don't use a longer lens or a TC or smaller pixels or any combination thereof to make it look like I am closer to, or "reached" the subject. I do it so as to get more resolution of the subject, and the idea of the subject "looking closer" plays no role; only literally getting closer does that.
Scaling and proximity are independent things.