1. Is Alien Bees still popular? 2. Westscott Rapid Box?

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I haven't visit dpreview forum for few years now and I am seeing Godox strobe mention a lot.

What happen to Alien Bees users? Is it pass it's prime? I have AB myself and sure hope they are not going die off...

Secondly, anyone uses Westscott Rapid Box? I am looking for a octabox and the Rapid Box interest me for it's ease of use.

Thx
 
Paul C. Buff, inc is apparently thriving. I ordered an Einstein a couple of months back and had to be on the waitlist for a couple of weeks while previous orders were fulfilled. My contact at PCB said they are making them at full production capacity.
 
Hi,

The reason you're probably reading alot about the Godox strobes on these forums is because the new Godox Witstro AD600 and its subsequent rebrands, such as the Flashpoint XPLOR600 by Adorama or some Cheetahstand variant are pretty exciting. They are offering a lot of features, such as HSS and its own battery for about $750 for the TTL version (yes, they have a TTL version) and $600 for the manual version. It also helps that they are producing a dedicated hotshot transmitter for the Sony MI hotshoe, which many Sony A7x camera users are rejoicing over as until recently there hasn't been a strobe system that is fully compatible with Sony.

Don't worry about the Alienbees — they're doing fine. They are still quite popular for their segment of the market and they will continue to get sales.

As for your Rapidbox question, you could look for FJ Westcott's YouTube channel. They have a nice review on its features, how to set it up, and on converting it into a "beauty dish".
 
I love my rapid box for location work - I have the 26" rapid box octa for speedlight usage, and just ordered the 48" rapid box XXL which is a essentially a similar design just twice as big and for strobe only.

The quality of light at the appropriate distance for a shoulders/head portrait is gorgeous. It's also quite durable - I've used it in dozens of on location portrait shoots, stuffed it into my camera backpack, even tipped it over on top of a design size light stand and it's still working great.

The 48" offers the same quality of light except of course more suitable for small groups/couples and full body portraits (with some fall off towards the feet which is fine for my purposes). A lot of the portraits on my site are with the westcott rapid box.
 
I love my rapid box for location work - I have the 26" rapid box octa for speedlight usage, and just ordered the 48" rapid box XXL which is a essentially a similar design just twice as big and for strobe only.

The quality of light at the appropriate distance for a shoulders/head portrait is gorgeous. It's also quite durable - I've used it in dozens of on location portrait shoots, stuffed it into my camera backpack, even tipped it over on top of a design size light stand and it's still working great.

The 48" offers the same quality of light except of course more suitable for small groups/couples and full body portraits (with some fall off towards the feet which is fine for my purposes). A lot of the portraits on my site are with the westcott rapid box.

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I just this morning ordered the 26" Rapid Box with the reflector and an 8' lightstand. I've been using a cheap softbox and decided this AM to finally spring for an octobox and the Rapid box seems to be the best on the market right now. It should be here Wednesday and I can' wait.

It presently is running for $169.00 (US) but on Amazon I found a kit for $199.95 If i bought the reflector separately it's $20.00 so basically I paid $10.00 for the light stand.

This is the Rapid Box Kit I bought
 
I just this morning ordered the 26" Rapid Box with the reflector and an 8' lightstand. I've been using a cheap softbox and decided this AM to finally spring for an octobox and the Rapid box seems to be the best on the market right now. It should be here Wednesday and I can' wait.

It presently is running for $169.00 (US) but on Amazon I found a kit for $199.95 If i bought the reflector separately it's $20.00 so basically I paid $10.00 for the light stand.

This is the Rapid Box Kit I bought
Awesome! I ended up not liking the light stand that comes with that combo kit, and had more than enough of them so ended up getting just the rapid box and deflector dish.

It's more directional than your typical cheap softbox, so there will be a bit of a learning curve getting the hang of that but it's a great little light modifier. Before I got it, I wondered why it's so expensive compared to the super cheap cowboystudio crap on amazon, and you'll realize why once you get it. It's in my opinion a professional piece of kit and really well thought out - you can get a lot of different looks with it. I think you'll be really happy with it once you figure out the sweet spots of the modifier.
 
I just this morning ordered the 26" Rapid Box with the reflector and an 8' lightstand. I've been using a cheap softbox and decided this AM to finally spring for an octobox and the Rapid box seems to be the best on the market right now. It should be here Wednesday and I can' wait.

It presently is running for $169.00 (US) but on Amazon I found a kit for $199.95 If i bought the reflector separately it's $20.00 so basically I paid $10.00 for the light stand.

This is the Rapid Box Kit I bought
Awesome! I ended up not liking the light stand that comes with that combo kit, and had more than enough of them so ended up getting just the rapid box and deflector dish.

It's more directional than your typical cheap softbox, so there will be a bit of a learning curve getting the hang of that but it's a great little light modifier. Before I got it, I wondered why it's so expensive compared to the super cheap cowboystudio crap on amazon, and you'll realize why once you get it. It's in my opinion a professional piece of kit and really well thought out - you can get a lot of different looks with it. I think you'll be really happy with it once you figure out the sweet spots of the modifier.
 
I'm most likely going to keep my little rapid box as a fill/hair light as it integrates well with my new godox system from a strobe standpoint - the AD600 and TT685 controlled by the Godox trigger.
 
One reason I like Alien Bees is because in a recent move I lost three items which were part of an assembly, and I was able to order just the items I needed and not a whole new assembly. The parts are scheduled to arrive tomorrow.

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I haven't visit dpreview forum for few years now and I am seeing Godox strobe mention a lot.

What happen to Alien Bees users? Is it pass it's prime? I have AB myself and sure hope they are not going die off...

Secondly, anyone uses Westscott Rapid Box? I am looking for a octabox and the Rapid Box interest me for it's ease of use.

Thx
AlienBees is still good. But for moving around, Godox's barebulb flash is much better. As a matter of fact, even when inside, I use Godox 360 with my B800. Both put out similar amount of light. I think AlienBees puts out a bit more, and, of course, being AC powered, recycles a whole lot faster. But for the stuff I do, I don't need that and Godox AD-360 is plenty good enough. If Godox AD-360 had come out sooner, I might have gotten just two AD-360 flashes instead of B800. But, of course, B800 costs less and has modeling light also.

Godox introduced TTL version of the AD-360. So, the prices on the manual version of AD-360 dropped quite a bit. So, I think the manual version is a really good deal now.

So, between AlienBees B800 and Godox 360, I think you have to consider what your needs are. Each has its strengths and weaknesses. When you consider shipping costs, the price difference is only $100. Can't go wrong with either one. As much as I like AlienBees, I much prefer the convenience of battery powered Godox AD-360.

As for the softbox, I also have Westcott Rapidbox. But I mainly use SMDV Speedbox. Here's an interesting comparison between Westcott's RapidBox and SMDV's Speedbox-s65.

My own comparison of the two confirms what's reported on the blog. I think the quality of the light and quantity of light is better with the SMDV Speedbox. The limitation of the Speedbox-s65 is that it can't be used on AB B800. It's because the Speedbox uses plastic speedring. B800's modeling light will melt the Speedbox's speedring. But then the Rapidbox can't be used on AB anyhow even if it's made of metal. For my AB B800, I use SMDV's Alpha Speedbox-A90 which is like a big brother version of their Speedbox. The A90 is basically a Speedbox for monolight users, but it can be used with Godox AD-360. I think the A90 is a different league compared to the Rapidbox. It's quite a bit more expensive also, but the quality is solid.

But for using with Godox AD360, Speedbox-S65 does the job well. The biggest difference between the Rapidbox and Speedbox is that the Speedbox is much more rapid than the Rapidbox. The speedbox is so much easier and faster, I feel that it's not a fair comparison.

Also, one thing that no one mentions is that the ribs on the Rapidbox is fixed. So, if you your Rapidbox falls over and the rib is bent, you are pretty much left to your metal working skill. However, the SMDV Speedbox has replaceable components, including the ribs. So, you can just replace the bent ribs. Had to do that recently. Luckily my flash didn't break on me.
 

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