you can use that same analogy with any camera.
You missed the entire point, if you have or set up good lighting, good subject, know how to compose and shoot, you sometimes get a shot that doesn't need any processing.
Every shot requires processing.
Not if you use default setting JPG out of the box.
forgive me...but if you are going to do nothing to the raw file..is there any point in shooting raw in the first place...maybe i missed something
Where is it said that nothing will be done with it? It's a question of getting it to a format suited for its use.
Which means you chose to process the RAW data and picked the in-camera JPEG engine to do the processing
Which means the data was processed.
Exactly, and the user decides how to use it. Default only mean the Camera engines make the decisions ahead of time and the user concurs.
And deciding to go with defaults is also a decision and processing, Some would call it a bit lazy and I think of it as more a convenience/speed decision. Regardless...a limiting decision
Ooo, I do love this pedantic nit-picking. A choice, not me doing processing.
Yes, well done.
Yes, very good.
Not limiting at all, since if the out of the box results are not good enough, you can choose to process until your butt drops off.
did you read the OP's comments?
they should. yes. you will get subtle differences such as some don't like Sony greens.
yes, such as 5DSr using adobe, crushes the blacks more.
yes.
if print is your final medium. yes. of course you can outsource alot of that, but you still need the room and calibrated monitor.
you sir, are most certainly correct.
But still processed...you simply choose to hire it out to the folks back at Canon
Still limiting in that once done (assuming you indeed are shooting JPEG) there is no going back and little/less room going forward. Options are limited. Bottom line, all Digital images are indeed processed...to different degrees. Even the basic RAW file contains a JPEG that was processed based on someones input.
Fabulous extrapolation, but where am I doing any processing???
Wrong assumption, 99.9% of the time I shoot RAW + JPG.
You your selected "out of camera defaults". That's the processing you chose to have performed and by whom.
Then 100% of the time...you are still looking at images that have been processed
The point made earlier was that "Every shot requires processing". To which you suggested "Not if you use default setting JPG out of the box" . Which we know isn't true
Even if "your shooting is good and conditions are right"...Every shot still requires processing. You always have to decide as to the "how" of it...before, after, or a combination of the two. Deafult, Vivid, flat. etc. ...you see no image that hasn't been processed
Out of the box default, you don't select anything, that's what a default is, a default of choice, you click, you get a pic. Try processing the word default.
Yes...default means you choose preselected options/settings to use as your processing settings. It's often the settings company folks decides is best. Often a marketing based decision (on their part). And by you choosing to use "default", you choose the processing chosen for you. Kind of the "Polaroid" approach to processing choice. Nothing wrong really, but In either case (default or not) every shot requires processing.... As Bob points out
Would you consider manually applying a preset in LR after import as processing? How about applying the preset automatically after import?
There is still the choice between using the in-camera jpegs or the raws (and then which raw converter).
Except that default means the settings you get if you don't choose anything. You might not even know that there are settings to choose from.
