I also have the touit 32 so I would be thinking about the touit 12. Or, depending on your specific needs, something on the long end - say the Sony 90 2.8 or the Zeiss Batis 85 1.8.
The Zeiss 85 or the sony 70300 are next on my list.
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The Zeiss 85 or the sony 70300 are next on my list.
santiclaws
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I have:
12mm Samyang
24mm Sony
50mm Sony
I also have the 55-210 and kit zooms, plus several legacy primes. But those three cover the vast majority of my shots, with the 24 having the lion's share of those.
12mm Samyang
24mm Sony
50mm Sony
I also have the 55-210 and kit zooms, plus several legacy primes. But those three cover the vast majority of my shots, with the 24 having the lion's share of those.
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snapa
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Only having 3 primes would cause you to miss many great photo opportunities, get dust/dirt on your sensor. Zoom lenses are much more versatile.
It's quite simple really, something like the 16-50 & 55-210 kit lenses for good light. If you have unlimited funds, there are other better lenses. Then, all you need to do is figure out what 1-2 prime lenses your really need at what focal lengths you use most often. Everyone needs 1-2 zoom lenses and 1-2 prime lenses to cover low light shooting for better IQ for lower noise in low light. If you can't figure out what focal lengths you need, take more pictures until you can answer that question for yourself.
Once you have figured out what focal lengths you shoot with most from shooting your zoom lens(es), get the prime lens(es) that suites your needs best.
If you can't do that, get a really good fixed lens 1" sensor camera like one of the RX10 or RX100 series cameras with much faster lenses and enjoy it, KISS. Choosing a lens for an MICL camera should not be that hard. If you can't do that, get a very good fixed lens camera and enjoy it. That way, you can get all the focal length you need and still take relatively good pictures for less money with less effort.
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Only having 1 prime solves the dust/dirt issue. As for the rest, I sometimes find a fast lens more flexible than having multiple focal lengths, especially if it's a slow zoom.
In some ways.
I'm not saying I don't agree with you to some extent ... I shoot a mix of zooms and primes. But I often go out with just one or sometimes two primes and don't feel like I've missed opportunities. I've gone out with only a zoom and felt I've missed opportunities.
But it's a fun theoretical exercise nonetheless.
I don't think he said he couldn't do that ... he was just asking around, chatting.
talkinghorse
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I have been shooting with primes for over 45 years and I have never missed a shot because of it - I might get a different shot than someone with a zoom, but I don't miss shots and because I have to actually move to compose I often get better shots
you do realize that for most of the history of photography zooms didn't even exist and when they did first become available for SLR's they pretty much sucked - even now today leica one of the most highly regarded camera/lens makers in the world doesn't make a true zoom lens
zoom lenses are ALWAYS a compromise - sure they can be very good, but they are very rarely great - seriously go on DXOmark and pull up their lens ratings for e-mount from best to worst and I would bet primes are at the top on the list
zooms are great for family snapshots and are 100% needed for events like a wedding, but other than that I have no use for them - they are like remote controls that make me lazy. instead of moving and thinking just mindestlyg zoom in from where you are on the couch
nothing personal, but that is how I feel - as a landscape / portrait photographer
I haven't been part of the give and take regarding primes versus zooms. What I find interesting is in another active thread people are arguing about how Sony doesn't have enough lenses while in this thread we are talking about the merits of the various options for the different needs of different people..... Kinda funny to me....
It's good to know we have options for everybody to get what they want and need.
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135mm is the classic head and shoulders portrait focal length on FF.
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If your day goes back far enough those were the only lenses you could get.
If I could only use 3 primes on my a6000, they'd probably be the
- Sigma 19 mm f/2.8 EX DN
- Sony Zeiss FE 55mm f/1.8, and
- Sony FE 90mm f/2.8 Macro or one of the new 85mm lenses
If I could only have one camera and three fixed focal lengths, IDK what I'd do. I currently use from 18mm to 500mm FF equivalent, with frequent use around 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 90mm, 135mm, and 300mm. I want to add 14mm or 15mm and 750mm.
I might use the same approach as with the 3 e-mount lenses above: one landscape, one normal-ish and one portrait, but I'd probably go with something like ~30, ~90 and ~270. Fortunately, I'm not going to have to be so limited.
I like the principle of having a set of lenses each roughly double the length of the last: e.g. 12, 24, 45, 90, 200.
This makes choosing only three of these five tricky. I guess I could cheat and assume that I have a tele zoom for longer FLs, but I like the idea of a 85-90mm prime, which means condensing the first three into two. I lean towards 12, 35, 85. But I don't like it.
My ideal APS-C kit would be:
12 Touit (cheap option: Rokinon 12 f/2)
24 Zony (cheap option: Sigma 30 f/1.4 or Sony FE 28 f/2)
55 Zony (cheap option: Sony 50 f/1.8 E)
90 Sony FE macro (cheap(ish) option: Rokinon 100 f/2.8 macro)
70-300 FE Sony (cheap option: none)
On the cheap option, if I went 12,30,50,100 then the Sigma 19mm would fit nicely in there as well.
This makes choosing only three of these five tricky. I guess I could cheat and assume that I have a tele zoom for longer FLs, but I like the idea of a 85-90mm prime, which means condensing the first three into two. I lean towards 12, 35, 85. But I don't like it.
My ideal APS-C kit would be:
12 Touit (cheap option: Rokinon 12 f/2)
24 Zony (cheap option: Sigma 30 f/1.4 or Sony FE 28 f/2)
55 Zony (cheap option: Sony 50 f/1.8 E)
90 Sony FE macro (cheap(ish) option: Rokinon 100 f/2.8 macro)
70-300 FE Sony (cheap option: none)
On the cheap option, if I went 12,30,50,100 then the Sigma 19mm would fit nicely in there as well.
For my a6000 I currently have:
Samyang 12mm F2
Zeiss 24 f1.8
Sony FE28 F2
Sony 50 F1.8
And I'm deciding which one to keep as a walkabout lens, the 24 f1.8 or the FE28 F2. The Zeiss is a bit sharper and the colors a little bit better and the bokeh is smoother, but just by a small margin. On the other hand, the FE28 F2 is smaller (when hoods attached, there is a significant difference in size between both lenses), nicer perspective to photograph people, and I find the AF to be more reliable and faster.
Samyang 12mm F2
Zeiss 24 f1.8
Sony FE28 F2
Sony 50 F1.8
And I'm deciding which one to keep as a walkabout lens, the 24 f1.8 or the FE28 F2. The Zeiss is a bit sharper and the colors a little bit better and the bokeh is smoother, but just by a small margin. On the other hand, the FE28 F2 is smaller (when hoods attached, there is a significant difference in size between both lenses), nicer perspective to photograph people, and I find the AF to be more reliable and faster.
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I assume you are satisfied with those two _ and _ you are only interested on a third lens to complete your three lens arsenal.
I wonder why this Sigma 19mm instead of something closer to your 90mm (short tele)
This negate my understanding and assumption of your intention for only a third lens.
I am ignorant of lenses / camera you own, hence, can only suggest a prime near the 90mm you used with your Leica. I assume DPR lens review and other reviews from professional publications are available on-line for your perusal.
Good luck
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talkinghorse
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yes I am. the 32 is the equivalent of a 48 on my old leica and the 60 is the equivalent of the 90 - both are top quality lenses - so yes I am looking for the 35mm equivalent that I had with my Leica
my leica was a film camera - my nex-7 is APSc as such there is a 1.5 crop factor which makes my Sigma 60mm have the exact same field of view as m 90mm on the leica
in my OP I said I have an NEX-7 - as such how are you "ignorant"
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That is what I thought , that your Leica was the authentic 35mm film camera, but was not sure. In that case, your choice of the Sigma 19mm would give you about 28mm wide angle coverage. To me that is very sensible choice.
I only use NIKON DSLR and Nikkor Lenses.
I don't bother reading on gears I do not have nor will I consider on having anymore.
It is NOT a knock on other gears, just my preference.
Fifty years ago, I have Leica, Canon, Pentax, Minolta, Konica, Yashica, Topcon, Contax , Kodak, and Nikon. Had GREAT success on all. Settled on Nikon forty years ago.
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As soon as the package** arrives this week my 3 prime set will be...
CV 15mm f4.5 UW Heliar II - I want the mk III version but that is money I can spend later and may opt for the 10 or 12 instead depending upon how I fill the gap between 15 and 40 down the road.
CV 40mm f2.8 Heliar - This is the lens I measure all others against. Such a natural perspective on the a6000 and a joy to shoot.
**CV 75mm f/1.8 Heliar - After months of using my 18-105 to try out various focal lengths I realized there is much magic for me to find at 75mm that I wasn't feeling at 60 or 85.
All of which are mounted using the VM-E Close Focus Adaptor. For general purposes these three allow me to frame the vast majority of contexts in which I will be shooting/exploring.
I am just starting to research what will fit between the 15 and 40 to provide a more natural wide perspective but, that is Summer or Autumn money and I need a lot of practice using AF anyways so my zooms are probably the best option for now.
CV 15mm f4.5 UW Heliar II - I want the mk III version but that is money I can spend later and may opt for the 10 or 12 instead depending upon how I fill the gap between 15 and 40 down the road.
CV 40mm f2.8 Heliar - This is the lens I measure all others against. Such a natural perspective on the a6000 and a joy to shoot.
**CV 75mm f/1.8 Heliar - After months of using my 18-105 to try out various focal lengths I realized there is much magic for me to find at 75mm that I wasn't feeling at 60 or 85.
All of which are mounted using the VM-E Close Focus Adaptor. For general purposes these three allow me to frame the vast majority of contexts in which I will be shooting/exploring.
I am just starting to research what will fit between the 15 and 40 to provide a more natural wide perspective but, that is Summer or Autumn money and I need a lot of practice using AF anyways so my zooms are probably the best option for now.
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Just to be clarified, that close focus adapter does not act like a speedbooster right, so you still get the crop factor when using those lens on your A6000?As soon as the package** arrives this week my 3 prime set will be...
CV 15mm f4.5 UW Heliar II - I want the mk III version but that is money I can spend later and may opt for the 10 or 12 instead depending upon how I fill the gap between 15 and 40 down the road.
CV 40mm f2.8 Heliar - This is the lens I measure all others against. Such a natural perspective on the a6000 and a joy to shoot.
**CV 75mm f/1.8 Heliar - After months of using my 18-105 to try out various focal lengths I realized there is much magic for me to find at 75mm that I wasn't feeling at 60 or 85.
All of which are mounted using the VM-E Close Focus Adaptor. For general purposes these three allow me to frame the vast majority of contexts in which I will be shooting/exploring.
I am just starting to research what will fit between the 15 and 40 to provide a more natural wide perspective but, that is Summer or Autumn money and I need a lot of practice using AF anyways so my zooms are probably the best option for now.
Utterlyotter
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Well. If money´s no object I´d probably get the manual Loxia 21 2.8, Sony 35 1.8 (as jack of all trades with OSS) and the stabilized Batis 85 1.8. All good to great and none are too large/heavy.
(If you´d said 5 lenses and zooms weren´t off the table I´d add the 10-18 and the 70-300..)
(If you´d said 5 lenses and zooms weren´t off the table I´d add the 10-18 and the 70-300..)
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