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Predict the E-M1 II price
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dulynoted
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That's not too bad.
The sony a7 cameras are a larger system size and don't do autofocus tracking as well as the current em1 let alone what will probably be an improved EM1 Mark II. People pay for convenience and a smaller size. There really isn't anything unusual with a well built though technically capable of less quality smaller product selling for a higher cost than a larger but more capable one. It is pretty normal in all tech area's.
For under a grand I can buy a laptop capable of virtually anything. But it will be big. For nearly 2 grand I can get a maxed out surface pro 4 that is still slower, has more bugs, yet is much smaller and more portable. The surface pro is a gigantic success so you can see what people think of the tradeoff right there.
I would like to see it launch around $1200 usd. At that price I could get one in a few months for a grand here in China. I am not a fan of the original em1 because of the grip shape, the dials, and the small thumb grip. If they were to improve those things, give it an articulated lcd and throw in the EVF from the leica SL I would probably buy at launch.
Really the single improvement I want in m43 at this point is that glorious evf from the Leica SL.....I am praying every day that the next em5 model or em1 mark II has that evf and still supports the FL-LM3 flash.
Those same sports photographers will always go wit the gear they are familiar with and know they will get the shot. They wouldnt risk their careers on an overpriced camera with a smaller sensor yet costs the same? Makes no sense to anyone with even half a brain or someone that cares abt their career or getting the shot.I really doubt that my meager predictions will have much to do with the Olympus marketing dept. But, if you really want to compete in the Canon Nikon sports arena, you better price yourself at that level or no one will take you seriously, Who wants to show up at a major sports event toting an " el cheapo" rig. If your pro 300mm f/4 is worth $2,500, shouldn't the body behind it be of similar pro features/price?Man your making me angryIf Olympus reads this because you want to pay more money for a camera & jacks the price
DLBlack
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There is more to the camera than high iso performance. Yes, due to sensor size the high iso performance will be approximately 1 stop worst than a 1.5 cropped sensor and 2 stop worst than a FF sensor. Yet at the same f-stop you get more DOF, which might be an advantage is sports.
The Sony 20mp sensor is rated at 27 fps. If the new camera has increased processing power and large buffer, with the electronic shutter it might be able to shot at 20 fps. The senor might have hundreds of cross PD points across the sensor that works better with the CDAF to give a hybrid AF that is better than what is is the D500. An EVF that is better than the optical viewfinder in the D500. the EVF might gave a lag time short enough and a refresh rate quick enough that it is not noticeable. The fps might be fast enough to make hand held hi-res possible.
Anyhow, just ideas on what the camera could have to make it compete against the D500. Yes, when it comes to high iso the D500 should be better, but there are other ways it can compete and be worth a price in the 7D MKII to D500 range.
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The Sony 20mp sensor is rated at 27 fps. If the new camera has increased processing power and large buffer, with the electronic shutter it might be able to shot at 20 fps. The senor might have hundreds of cross PD points across the sensor that works better with the CDAF to give a hybrid AF that is better than what is is the D500. An EVF that is better than the optical viewfinder in the D500. the EVF might gave a lag time short enough and a refresh rate quick enough that it is not noticeable. The fps might be fast enough to make hand held hi-res possible.
Anyhow, just ideas on what the camera could have to make it compete against the D500. Yes, when it comes to high iso the D500 should be better, but there are other ways it can compete and be worth a price in the 7D MKII to D500 range.
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I sold my E-M5 MkII and preordered a GX80 as a replacement.
Shutterspeed matters in sports photography. If you cant bump up the iso, no matter how good your focusing system is you will get blur from movement. Even worse when you use eshutter. The subjects will look like gumby!
DLBlack
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Yes, shutter speed does matter. Luckily most indoor and night sports are performed under enough lights so that even iso 1600 and a f2.8 lens is good enough to get a fast enough shutter speed to stop motion of human playing most sports. Yes faster iso will be nicer.
True currently e-shutter is not for action because of the rolling shutter blur. Each generation of the e-shutter shows improvements. Sometime in the future with a true global shutter there will be no rolling shutter blur.
Still there is more to a high-end pro camera than just iso performance even through it is an important factor.
DLGW
Senior Member
As I am reminded every time I think about the Sony system.
Honestly though - if anyone is willing to the pay the prices for the better Sony lenses, why would they skimp and not get the A7RII ? Doesn't make sense.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Honestly though - if anyone is willing to the pay the prices for the better Sony lenses, why would they skimp and not get the A7RII ? Doesn't make sense.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Cheezr
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