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Kodak is in financial trouble. I would be surprised if they are going to have anything very exciting any time soon. They first need to stop the bleeding and get organized. Regardless, I think the 14n is the ugliest lump of a camera I have ever seen, with a terribly designed portrait grip, a bulbous body, and hodge-podgy execution. The 14n makes me really wonder what's going on in Kodak's design shop. It's the Pontiac Aztec of cameras....what really bugs me is how a company like kodak come out with a
camera that is really a set back .. at least it gets nfavourable
comments by professional over here, maybe they have something
really great coming out their sleeves and this was just a a little
reminder , for the time being ,that they are still doing things
,and just preparing us for something very advanced.. .in the coming
future ... exciting times isnt it??!
No evidence? The sheer fact that we can make our own decisions, that we EXIST, that this world exists and that there are consistent laws of the universe is evidence enough that God exists! Where do you believe all of this came from?Well, actually, no it is not at all hard to comprehend -- it is
just that I see no evidence to believe that such an entity actually
exists, and if (against the odds) it does exist then that is
certainly no reason why it/he/she should be worshipped.
No evidence? The sheer fact that we can make our own decisions,Well, actually, no it is not at all hard to comprehend -- it is
just that I see no evidence to believe that such an entity actually
exists, and if (against the odds) it does exist then that is
certainly no reason why it/he/she should be worshipped.
that we EXIST, that this world exists and that there are consistent
laws of the universe is evidence enough that God exists! Where do
you believe all of this came from?
Why do you think you exist? What purpose does your life serve?
What happens when you die?
My faith in a real and powerful God is not a joke.
Chill out.
God bless,
Matt
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Want to know why I am a photographer? Want to know why I am filled
with joy? Read my profile.
I know that. But I want to know why he believes the way he does (and why he thinks that I shouldn't even be able to freely say whatever I like about my beliefs on this public forum).Terry has just as much right to his beliefs (or non-beliefs) as you
do.
In no way did I put him down for his beliefs (or lack thereof) and I didn't feel that he was putting me down (well, until the part where he said I was being rediculous).You both put each other down, and seemingly cannot understand that
everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, ridiculing or making
light of these things only show you both to be ignorant.
And what, pray tell, are you doing here?Birds of a feather?
Thank you, but please see next comment.Matt,
Terry has just as much right to his beliefs (or non-beliefs) as you
do.
Sorry Theodore, but I deeply, deeply resent your use of the word "ignorant" -- it is precisely this that I strive to counter, not just on this issue but on many others. I abhor wanton ignorance and that is precisely why I strongly object to religious propaganda in a photography forum. Moreover, we are not merely talking about 'beliefs' here, the crux of the matter are the 'facts' -- beliefs and opinion are cheap, but facts and truth are things to be valued.You both put each other down, and seemingly cannot understand that
everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, ridiculing or making
light of these things only show you both to be ignorant.
I refer you to my previous Nietzsche quotation ...Birds of a feather?
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Theo
Community Website for Toronto Digital Camera Users -
http://communities.msn.ca/TorontoDigital
'Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
liberal, fanatical, criminal.' ST
No evidence? The sheer fact that we can make our own decisions,Well, actually, no it is not at all hard to comprehend -- it is
just that I see no evidence to believe that such an entity actually
exists, and if (against the odds) it does exist then that is
certainly no reason why it/he/she should be worshipped.
that we EXIST, that this world exists and that there are consistent
laws of the universe is evidence enough that God exists! Where do
you believe all of this came from?
Why do you think you exist? What purpose does your life serve?
What happens when you die?
My faith in a real and powerful God is not a joke.
Chill out.
God bless,
Matt
--
Want to know why I am a photographer? Want to know why I am filled
with joy? Read my profile.
Yes, there is no evidence for the existence of a god.No evidence?Well, actually, no it is not at all hard to comprehend -- it is
just that I see no evidence to believe that such an entity actually
exists, and if (against the odds) it does exist then that is
certainly no reason why it/he/she should be worshipped.
You are wrong -- none of this is evidence. You are confusing your interpretation of the natural world with evidence when they are entirely different. You are entitled to your interpretation, but by any rational criteria you are wrong.The sheer fact that we can make our own decisions,
that we EXIST, that this world exists and that there are consistent
laws of the universe is evidence enough that God exists!
The laws of physics, the big-bang, evolution, etc etc etcWhere do
you believe all of this came from?
This is a stupid question since it presupposes that there is a 'reason' for our existence, when there is no reason to believe that such a 'reason' exists! In short, there is no reason for our existence. We're just here, full stop.Why do you think you exist?
None ... I am an animal driven by evolutionary instincts and prevailing cultural values to satiate my physical and emotional needs. However, given that I do exist (or at least I perceive I exist) and that I am a sentient self-conscious pain-sensitive being capable of emotional responses, and I surmise that others are likewise, I feel ethically obliged to treat others in the same way that I wish to be treated by them ('do as you would be done by' -- the only 'commandment' you need).What purpose does your life serve?
I will either be burned in an incinerator and my ashes disposed of by some means or I will be buried in the ground and slowly rot. As a sentient creature I will be no more, however my name will live on in the archives of the DPReview forums -- can there be a greater memorial (unless Phil trashes all old postings!)?What happens when you die?
Yes, your "faith in a real and powerful God is not a joke", it is evidently (and sadly) very real.My faith in a real and powerful God is not a joke.
Wow ... nice expression ... you must be one of those 'happy, clappy' christians that I hear about.Chill out.
What is the point of being blessed by a figment of your imagination?God bless,
Matt
This may be a "public forum" but it is not for open discussion, it is purely for discussion about digital photography -- if you had stuck to this ruling then this discussion would not have started in the first place.I know that. But I want to know why he believes the way he doesTerry has just as much right to his beliefs (or non-beliefs) as you
do.
(and why he thinks that I shouldn't even be able to freely say
whatever I like about my beliefs on this public forum).
For once you have made a statement of fact rather than opinion -- congratulations! And this is precisely my point -- you seem incapable of separating your beliefs from scientifically established truths.Furthermore, even if we are entitled to our own beliefs, doesn't
make us both right.
Wrong ... you think that you know.I know that there is a God,
Oh, you mean the flesh eating viruses, the children born with deformities, the continual world-wide death of millions through malnutrition, lack of clean water and disease, etc etc.and I know that
His Son came down to earth to die for my sins, to make me pure
again, and to allow for the Holy Spirit to be able to move in us.
Look at all of creation!
Does your scientific ignorance know no bounds?You can't tell me that it just burst out
of thin air (just an expression)... And we have never evolved, we
have continually degraded. The new things we have discovered,
amoung other things, are purely results of information adding up
and adding up. We have not evolved into smarter beings (nor will
we ever evolve into anything, nor did we come from monkeys or fish
or bacteria!), just reuse the knowledge of past!
Ditto ... you clearly have no understanding of cosmological theories or evolutionary biology, so like the ignorant have done throughout history you have adopted the most intellectually undemanding 'solution' by embracing religious superstition.And then, again, look at the beauty of creation. Look at how vast
this universe is. Just think of the "coincidence" that the earth
is just so far from the sun that we don't burn up from the heat or
freeze from the cold... How our planet is the only inhabitable
planet thus far! How the moon was put just at the right place so
that we would have a little bit of the suns light and heat to keep
things from getting too cold and too dark... Think of the regular
rotation of the whole entire solar system, how it is right on time,
just like clock work... Did that all just poof out of thin air
(again, a figure of speach) just right? Have trees and oceans and
dirt all been around since the poof? Why did such a simple amoeba
or whatever it was form and these complex tree's, etc, form? Did
we evolve into trees as well?
What rot. Moreover, it is blatantly not a "perfect system" -- I refer you my previous comments on flesh eating viruses etc. Do you believe that a system in which thousands of people regularly die in floods, earthquakes, fires, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, etc etc is "perfect"?Only a perfect and omnipotent God could have produced such a
perfect system...
Yes, we have messed things up -- and religious bigotry has been one of the contributing factors to the mess that we, as a species, have created.And then we had to go and mess it up because of
our disobedience...
Ditto ... my previous reply.God bless,
Matt
Of which, I already have done.I suggest we all cool it, and if Matt can restrict himself to just
referring us to his profile to see what turns him on, I may go back
to reading his (digital photography) posts again.
