grimace
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Just wondering if a camera of that quality will be released by Nikon in the NEAR future? a major step up from the D100.
Any thoughts ???
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When will they release an F100 standard SLR digital???
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Negative287
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According to Nikon the body is more F100 then D100 and some people agree while others don't...
As for the D100 body with the Cam 1300 in it, better Matrix Metering and maybe a bit better on the weather seals, I'm not sure that it fits the Nikon price structure right now but it could be a place to Upgrade the D100 come next year!
As for the D100 body with the Cam 1300 in it, better Matrix Metering and maybe a bit better on the weather seals, I'm not sure that it fits the Nikon price structure right now but it could be a place to Upgrade the D100 come next year!
Gene Caldwell
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It has been released. It is called the D1X
Martin Plant
Well-known member
I beg to differ. The F100 is a relatively small light "semi-pro" camera (whatever that means) but with the operating speed and autofocus closer to the F5 / D1 generation than the F80/D100. I for one would be first in line for a digital equivalent.
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Negative287
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I agree the D1x is an F5, it's too strong not to be!
and Nikon still claims the D100 is more F100 then N80.
and Nikon still claims the D100 is more F100 then N80.
Baracus
Leading Member
Yeah right! Marketing BS. D1X is far closer to the F100 than F5. Notice the lack of interchangable viewfinders, control layout, etc... The only thing that makes it resemble the F5 is the built in vertical grip. D100 cannot even come close to matching the performance of a F100. Hopefully the next generation will.
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Anthony Medici
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As much as you don't like it, it will not change the fact that the D1, D1X and D1H are based more on the F100 than on the F5. With the digitals, Nikon decided they needed to build in the large battery system. But all the controls, prism and ports are in exactly the same location as the F100. The focusing screen is directly replaceable between the D1 series and the F100 as is the eyepiece.
Yes, they need to make a small pro camera without the battery pack but they first need to get past the power consumption issue which I think they have with the D2H.
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Yes, they need to make a small pro camera without the battery pack but they first need to get past the power consumption issue which I think they have with the D2H.
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Gabriele Sartori
Senior Member
I saw this discussion going on for more than one year. Now that I own the S2 as well I've to say that our beloved D100 is 99% N80 and 1% or less F100.
The S2 and the D100 are almost twin systers, the S2 is ajust a little taller to accomodate the AA batteries and a little thicker since the electronic is mostly on the back the two cameras are really similar though and as we know the S2 is built on the N80 body.
Pity of Nikon, if they did the D100 onthe F100 body they could have ask more money and we would be more happy. I don't think the D100 would have cannibalized DX1 sales anyway.
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Thomas Sapiano
Senior Member
But he is right - the D1-series derives much more from the F100 than it does from the F5. Yes, the D1/H/X are quite large - however the build-quality, chassis design, viewfinder, controls, etc. aren't at all similar to the F5. The D1 is more like a F100 with an integrated vertical grip than it is anything else - the only thing that came from the F5 was the metering sensor
Part of the problem is that when the original D1 came in, DSLRs were a lot more expensive and one of Nikon's objectives was to get the cost as low as possible. For the first couple of years, the D1 had to serve as both the professional and high-end consumer camera - so it had to make compromises that didn't have to be made with the F-series. As someone who owns both a F5 and a D1H, the F5 is most definately the better built camera
I'm hoping that the D2H rectifies a lot of the D1s weaknesses (crappy 4-way switch that falls off, rubber than peels off, connector covers that won't stay shut, etc...).If you want an F100-like DSLR, just wait for the D2H to become available and then look for good deals on used D1Hs
Paul PK
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Having both a F100 and recently a D1, I can vouch that the D1/X/H are based on the F100, which BTW is not a bad thing at all
On a sidenote, why is verybody complaining so much about the weight and size of the D1/X/H?
Having done numerous catwalk shoots with a F2+MB1+batterypack with a Metz CT60+ batterypack with a 2.8/80-200 zoom, and similar setups with F90X/MB10 and F100/MB15, I find the D1 a neat lightweight, but comfortably sturdy package, much more preferable over a D100/F80
On a sidenote, why is verybody complaining so much about the weight and size of the D1/X/H?
Having done numerous catwalk shoots with a F2+MB1+batterypack with a Metz CT60+ batterypack with a 2.8/80-200 zoom, and similar setups with F90X/MB10 and F100/MB15, I find the D1 a neat lightweight, but comfortably sturdy package, much more preferable over a D100/F80
grimace
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Thankyou everyone for your input LOL, much appreciated !!!
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Negative287
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Dimensions...
D100
5.7 x 4.6 x 3.2 in.
N80
5.6 x 3.9 x 2.8 in
(F100 is thinner then both of these)
Nobody denies the D100 has the F100's internal Chasis in it and the dimensions aren't the same so you can see so I don't find any reason to argue with them... If you're talking focusing motors and all then yes the performance is closer (or exactly) what the N80 would deliver (I thought this was about body weight though).
Now, I agree... The body of the D100 is certainly not Magnesium Alloy like the F100 but it also is larger then the N80 (and it doesn't have a battery grip built in) which would suggest that it isn't based totally on either body but probably somewhere in between.
Now as for the D1x, I'll agree there it does look more like a Digital F100 then a Digital F5 that's for sure (right down to the button layouts)... I've never heard Nikon claim it was an F5 and that was just an assumption on my part.
Another interesting note is that the D1x is Magnessium Alloy and the F5 is a "Die Cast Body with Titanium Viewfinder"... So clearly it is closer to the F100 then the F5 and I was wrong about that.
D100
5.7 x 4.6 x 3.2 in.
N80
5.6 x 3.9 x 2.8 in
(F100 is thinner then both of these)
Nobody denies the D100 has the F100's internal Chasis in it and the dimensions aren't the same so you can see so I don't find any reason to argue with them... If you're talking focusing motors and all then yes the performance is closer (or exactly) what the N80 would deliver (I thought this was about body weight though).
Now, I agree... The body of the D100 is certainly not Magnesium Alloy like the F100 but it also is larger then the N80 (and it doesn't have a battery grip built in) which would suggest that it isn't based totally on either body but probably somewhere in between.
Now as for the D1x, I'll agree there it does look more like a Digital F100 then a Digital F5 that's for sure (right down to the button layouts)... I've never heard Nikon claim it was an F5 and that was just an assumption on my part.
Another interesting note is that the D1x is Magnessium Alloy and the F5 is a "Die Cast Body with Titanium Viewfinder"... So clearly it is closer to the F100 then the F5 and I was wrong about that.
The fact that the D100 looks similar to an F100 in size and shape is easy to see.
Nikon themselves has said the D100 shares some of its electronics (AF system for one) with the N80/F80.
The D100 body itself was designed for the D100.
The Fuji S2 was built by Fuji taking N80/F80 bodies and modifying them.
Kodak ordered components from Nikon and custom built the body for the 14n.
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Nikon themselves has said the D100 shares some of its electronics (AF system for one) with the N80/F80.
The D100 body itself was designed for the D100.
The Fuji S2 was built by Fuji taking N80/F80 bodies and modifying them.
Kodak ordered components from Nikon and custom built the body for the 14n.
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Scott A. Flaherty
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How can you call the F100 a "semi-pro" camera. It's the one that Galen Rowell used. And he was a level of "pro" that most of us couldn't even dream of attaining.
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Gabriele Sartori
Senior Member
yes, yes, we know what Nikon says. ANy company says a lot of bs in their marketing. Put an S2 on the left hand and the D100 on the right hand then you will see they come out from the same mold (almost).
It may bug to you knowing that a D100 has nothing to do with the F100 and everything to do with the N80 but is the truth.
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