Small sensor cameras "dead" i hope not

As for your photo, it's oversharpened. By the way how is the bokeh of that lens? Or do you not care about such trivial factors?

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Clearly, your $2 phone's screen is as good as your manners.
Whatever else is wrong with it, it is not over-sharpened.
 
I think most owners of larger sensor bodies don't really care what happens to smaller formats, sans those who own one for a convenient option. The reverse, not so true. As for your photo, it's oversharpened. By the way how is the bokeh of that lens? Or do you not care about such trivial factors?
 
As for your photo, it's oversharpened. By the way how is the bokeh of that lens? Or do you not care about such trivial factors?

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Clearly, your $2 phone's screen is as good as your manners.
Whatever else is wrong with it, it is not over-sharpened.

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Actually im using a 49" IPS 4k display. But thanks for trying.
 
Not to detract from the message of the post, but at low ISO and at such close-up distance, you generally tend to get more detail (eye lashes, skin texture, fabric texture, etc) compared to subjects taken at further distances.
 
Small sensors (1/2.3" - 6.17 x 4.55 mm) have recently been reborn in the Nikon P900. Imagine 24mm to 2,000mm equivalent optical and up to 4,000mm digital. And relatively sharp to boot. When Nikon introduced the camera a couple years ago, it was on back ordered for 6 months or longer. It's a great bird watching camera but can take wide angle scenics simultaneously. Nikon recently introduced 3 new compact camera with 1" sensors, one with a 18-50mm equivalent lens. I suspect this will also be back ordered also. In short, the future of small sensors will be a function of the manufactures willingness to innovate. There definitely is a market if packaged in a camera body properly.
 
Small sensor cameras occupied those shelves in my local Walmart until recently.

 
Why is that? I'm confused why photographers would wish for the demise of a segment that others obviously see value in. How does it affect you personally that there are small sensor cams available and being used?
1, because he is non-sensical.

2, it eats him up inside to see other people are happy with things that he isnt.
 
Small sensors (1/2.3" - 6.17 x 4.55 mm) have recently been reborn in the Nikon P900. Imagine 24mm to 2,000mm equivalent optical and up to 4,000mm digital. And relatively sharp to boot. When Nikon introduced the camera a couple years ago, it was on back ordered for 6 months or longer. It's a great bird watching camera but can take wide angle scenics simultaneously. Nikon recently introduced 3 new compact camera with 1" sensors, one with a 18-50mm equivalent lens. I suspect this will also be back ordered also. In short, the future of small sensors will be a function of the manufactures willingness to innovate. There definitely is a market if packaged in a camera body properly.
The Nikon P900 doesn't even offer the option of RAW files, as I recollect.

In any case, I suspect that the P900 was "backordered" because of very small production volumes for consumer superzoom point-and-shoots. This segment is perpetually shrinking terms of unit volumes.

As far as the trio of 1" point-and-shoots, it a pity that Nikon is seemingly neglecting the Nikon 1/CX-mount system for the sake of dead segment. Truth be known, it's time to retire the Coolpix name and concentrate on mirrorless cameras.
 
Hi Donald,

well.

Last year, 2015, about 1.4 billion small sensor cameras were sold.

This amounted to about 97 percent of all cameras sold!

Where were those cameras sold? As part of Smartphones!

When a given sensor format accounts for 97 percent of the market, I think one can safely say that this sensor format is far, far from dead! ;-)

Going through some old images and stumbled across this one, ooc jep dramatic filter, the real photogs are just not going to like this kind of detail from a pinhead sensor :)not to mention skin texture.

bring on an Olympus XZ3

cheers don



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Olympus xz1, e-pL5 , EM5 my toys.
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9412035244
past toys. k100d, k10d,k7,fz5,fz150,500uz,canon G9.
 
If you listened to DPR trolls you'd think that it is impossible to blur the background or get any subject isolation with a smaller sensor.......

I think there will always be room for quality small sensor cameras in the bags of photographers. I've shot FF for 10 years or so, but I always keep a quality small camera around. For me I am more about the Fuji x10/20/30 series cameras as I like the manual zoom ring and flash shoe which can sync at all shutter speeds.

This is really no different than those of us who shot LF, MF, or Pro 35mm rigs in the film days always carried something like a Minolta TC-1, Yashica T4, Oly XA1, or Oly Stylus Epic.

Quality compacts are getting superseded somewhat by phones, which is ok for people who do not use flash..... but most good photographers use flash a lot.
 
...since small sensor enables small camera size, and lots of folks still want a small camera size with "good enough" image quality.

The challenge is getting "good enough" image quality indoors, without direct flash.
 
Quite excellent image. Nice CCD image sensor.
CCD's base ISO performance is still something I miss. Photos out of my old D40 still make me smile. Well, the lower ISO ones. I think I deleted all the high ISO stuff.
 
Quite excellent image. Nice CCD image sensor.
CCD's base ISO performance is still something I miss. Photos out of my old D40 still make me smile. Well, the lower ISO ones. I think I deleted all the high ISO stuff.
Funny you should say that, a friend and I where talking the other day about our older cameras and he commented also how good his d40 was as well.

cheers don
 
If you listened to DPR trolls you'd think that it is impossible to blur the background or get any subject isolation with a smaller sensor.......

I think there will always be room for quality small sensor cameras in the bags of photographers. I've shot FF for 10 years or so, but I always keep a quality small camera around. For me I am more about the Fuji x10/20/30 series cameras as I like the manual zoom ring and flash shoe which can sync at all shutter speeds.

This is really no different than those of us who shot LF, MF, or Pro 35mm rigs in the film days always carried something like a Minolta TC-1, Yashica T4, Oly XA1, or Oly Stylus Epic.

Quality compacts are getting superseded somewhat by phones, which is ok for people who do not use flash..... but most good photographers use flash a lot.
Its the one thing Ive been missing on my em5 is you cant fill flash at 1/1000sec also the inbuilt nd filter on the xz1 allows for wide open day light shots at a push of the button.

cheers don.
 
If you listened to DPR trolls you'd think that it is impossible to blur the background or get any subject isolation with a smaller sensor.......
Actually, you're hearing things, because nobody claimed "that it is impossible to blur the background or get any subject isolation with a smaller sensor."

It is very possible.

It's also possible to climb Mt. Everest.

Just not very probable.
 
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Going through some old images and stumbled across this one, ooc jep dramatic filter, the real photogs are just not going to like this kind of detail from a pinhead sensor :)not to mention skin texture.

bring on an Olympus XZ3
Here here! ...and a Pentax MX-2. (MX-1 used the XZ-1 XZ-2 lens)

Here's a shot from today from my Pentax Q7. 1/1.7" sensor. Lens is a 150mm movie camera lens (675 mm equiv., on this body's sensor) from about the 1950s.


A male red-winged Blackbird, calling for a mate

No, it's not as good as the resulting image from a full frame camera with a 600mm lens, but it's not bad for a < $500 combo!

The camera body and 4 lenses (including the telephoto) fit in a typical lunch box, and I bet they weigh less than 3 lbs.
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Going through some old images and stumbled across this one, ooc jep dramatic filter, the real photogs are just not going to like this kind of detail from a pinhead sensor :)not to mention skin texture.

bring on an Olympus XZ3
Here here! ...and a Pentax MX-2. (MX-1 used the XZ-1 XZ-2 lens)

Here's a shot from today from my Pentax Q7. 1/1.7" sensor. Lens is a 150mm movie camera lens (675 mm equiv., on this body's sensor) from about the 1950s.


A male red-winged Blackbird, calling for a mate

No, it's not as good as the resulting image from a full frame camera with a 600mm lens, but it's not bad for a < $500 combo!

The camera body and 4 lenses (including the telephoto) fit in a typical lunch box, and I bet they weigh less than 3 lbs.

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A small challenge for you: can you find one ~$500 compact that takes a worse image than that?

Because I can't. And I've looked at the P900, SX50, P600, and quite a few others.



P900 by sarah11918
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