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I know this probably has been asked before, but for a quick opinion....

Take away size, price & video which is the best camera.... GX8 or G7? I went over to camera labs and they gave the G7 a highly recommended but the GX8 a recommended. I was under the impression the GX8 would be a better camera, but maybe I'm wrong, of course that would never happen. ;)

Also, the reason I didn't include the Olympus cameras is that I like the menu of the Panasonic since I've owned 4.
 
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
 
I don't think you can ignore price. The GX8 is more fully featured and that's what you are paying for, Personally I have a G7 and don't want a GX8 but it would seem silly of me to claim that he G7 is better than the GX8. The G7 suits me better because of price, comfort and ergonomics.
 
Bhima78 said:
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
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Thanks so much for responding Bhima. I currently have the G3, and can get pretty clear shots at 500 ISO, but what I'm seeing on some of the shots with the GX8 is 500 ISO doesn't seem any better then my G3; then again there is a difference from 20mp compared to my G3 at 16mp.

Other wise I really like the features of the GX8, but am wondering what kind of noise the G7 has. I am a PIA when it comes to noise; yes, I am a pixel peeper. :-O
 
manthasfamily said:
Bhima78 said:
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
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Thanks so much for responding Bhima. I currently have the G3, and can get pretty clear shots at 500 ISO, but what I'm seeing on some of the shots with the GX8 is 500 ISO doesn't seem any better then my G3; then again there is a difference from 20mp compared to my G3 at 16mp.

Other wise I really like the features of the GX8, but am wondering what kind of noise the G7 has. I am a PIA when it comes to noise; yes, I am a pixel peeper. :-O
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manthasfamily said:
I know this probably has been asked before, but for a quick opinion....

Take away size, price & video which is the best camera.... GX8 or G7? I went over to camera labs and they gave the G7 a highly recommended but the GX8 a recommended. I was under the impression the GX8 would be a better camera, but maybe I'm wrong, of course that would never happen. ;)

Also, the reason I didn't include the Olympus cameras is that I like the menu of the Panasonic since I've owned 4.
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Bhima78 said:
manthasfamily said:
Bhima78 said:
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
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Thanks so much for responding Bhima. I currently have the G3, and can get pretty clear shots at 500 ISO, but what I'm seeing on some of the shots with the GX8 is 500 ISO doesn't seem any better then my G3; then again there is a difference from 20mp compared to my G3 at 16mp.

Other wise I really like the features of the GX8, but am wondering what kind of noise the G7 has. I am a PIA when it comes to noise; yes, I am a pixel peeper. :-O
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Bhima78 said:
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
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@Bhima78 You use the term E-shutter 'bit rate' a number of times in your post...I'm not clear on what you mean?

Are you perhaps talking about 'BURST Rate'...as in 'Frames Per Second FPS'? Or are you referring to maximum shutter speed in e-Shutter mode? 'Bit Rate' is usually used in reference to video I think- as in "The GX8 offers a 100Mbps bit rate for 4K video" vs. the GX7 is 1080 60P at 28 Mbps...is this what you are referring to?

Anyway, I would add the presence of (49) CDAF sensor points up from (23) in the GX7.
 
I find with the GX8, I'm able to get usable shots even at 6400 ISO whereas 3200 was my limit on the EM10 (unless I convert to black and white). I mostly post process in ACR and play with the luminance slider till I find the blend of less noise yet detail retention that works for me. But then, we all have different tolerances to noise. Still, ISO500 is pretty darn noise free to me as long as the photo was properly exposed in the first place.
 
Bhima78 said:
I find with the GX8, I'm able to get usable shots even at 6400 ISO whereas 3200 was my limit on the EM10 (unless I convert to black and white). I mostly post process in ACR and play with the luminance slider till I find the blend of less noise yet detail retention that works for me. But then, we all have different tolerances to noise. Still, ISO500 is pretty darn noise free to me as long as the photo was properly exposed in the first place.
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Makes sense to me on the ISO.
 
I love my GX8 for photos and video! I'm certainly not a pixel peeper. Though I will say that as in any camera, if you are worried about noise then be sure and match the GX8 up with fast quality lenses. I own the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8 and 35-100 f/2.8. Awesome lenses! There are also some great primes from both Panasonic answer Oly.
 
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Bhima78 said:
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
Click to expand...
@Bhima78 You use the term E-shutter 'bit rate' a number of times in your post...I'm not clear on what you mean?

Are you perhaps talking about 'BURST Rate'...as in 'Frames Per Second FPS'? Or are you referring to maximum shutter speed in e-Shutter mode? 'Bit Rate' is usually used in reference to video I think- as in "The GX8 offers a 100Mbps bit rate for 4K video" vs. the GX7 is 1080 60P at 28 Mbps...is this what you are referring to?

Anyway, I would add the presence of (49) CDAF sensor points up from (23) in the GX7.
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When I'm ready for 4K, I'd be looking at the G7 simply because I like its size and dSLR-style (I have an EM10)
 
Bhima78 said:
Philip Scott said:
Bhima78 said:
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
Click to expand...
@Bhima78 You use the term E-shutter 'bit rate' a number of times in your post...I'm not clear on what you mean?

Are you perhaps talking about 'BURST Rate'...as in 'Frames Per Second FPS'? Or are you referring to maximum shutter speed in e-Shutter mode? 'Bit Rate' is usually used in reference to video I think- as in "The GX8 offers a 100Mbps bit rate for 4K video" vs. the GX7 is 1080 60P at 28 Mbps...is this what you are referring to?

Anyway, I would add the presence of (49) CDAF sensor points up from (23) in the GX7.
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The GX8 is a great camera. I have yet to find anything that I do not like about that body. Some have complained about the weight, some about the placement of the buttons. I own the GX8, GH4, GX7 and GM5 and have no problem with any of them because I have used them all so much that my hands remember where to grip and press with each one. I have never experienced shutter shock with the GX8 (or GH4 or GM5) although I have read that some have. No doubt, that is the product of specific lenses at specific speeds. Fortunately, I have encountered neither. You will see a marked improvement with the new GX body as far as ISO speed and noise is concerned. Each time I have upgraded the DR has improved and this GX is no exception.
 
Philip Scott said:
Bhima78 said:
Philip Scott said:
Bhima78 said:
The GX8's five main advantages over the G7: A better bit rate for their E-shutter shots, slightly higher IQ, weathersealing, slightly bigger EVF (tilting is nice too) and in-body stabilization.

I personally like the build/form factor of the GX8 better though that isn't really an advantage since its mostly just personal preference.

The biggest ones at least to me were the IBIS and the better E-shutter bit rate. I would likely have picked the G7 to save some cash if it had offered the same E-shutter bit rate as the GX8.
Click to expand...
@Bhima78 You use the term E-shutter 'bit rate' a number of times in your post...I'm not clear on what you mean?

Are you perhaps talking about 'BURST Rate'...as in 'Frames Per Second FPS'? Or are you referring to maximum shutter speed in e-Shutter mode? 'Bit Rate' is usually used in reference to video I think- as in "The GX8 offers a 100Mbps bit rate for 4K video" vs. the GX7 is 1080 60P at 28 Mbps...is this what you are referring to?

Anyway, I would add the presence of (49) CDAF sensor points up from (23) in the GX7.
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I would like to thank all of you for your great comments. As I stated before I currently have a G3, which I like, but I feel it's time to upgrade in order to get a better success rate on my shots, which I know the GX8 and G7 would be over the G3. I can remove noise in PS, but of course I happen to be the type of person who likes to look at the first results. I'm not real steady, and do struggle to hold still, so being able to boost the ISO would be of great assistance (of course a higher shutter speed is important also.) I'm leaning toward the GX8, but am not sure if it is worth the extra cost to get dual stabilization, and a newer sensor over the lower cost of the G7. But to answer my question; if I didn't get the newer technology I'd be kicking myself. ;) I'm turning 66 tomorrow and at my age I might as well spoil myself. :)
 
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