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Another Reason to Stay Away from Windows 10

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Sean Nelson said:
Cliff Fujii said:
kelpdiver said:
I'm turning my blu-rays into mp4s so I can play them on any device in the house.
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will you be able to get the fidelity that the Blu-ray offers? I understand that there some compression involved with .mp4.
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Blu-ray IS MP4. MP4 is a wrapper for the H.264 video codec, and that's the same codec that's used on Blu-ray discs. It's just a matter of configuring the encoder to use the same (or even greater) quality settings as are used for Blu-ray discs.
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Blu-ray commercial encoding can be H.262/MPEG-2 or H.264/AVC, VC-1, or MPEG-4.
 
malch said:
Cliff Fujii said:
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2. Photoshop. I plan to run Win 7 under Linux with VirtualBox for this. The biggest question there is how best to share data (esp. my photo collection) between the host and guest operating systems.
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how about a NAS?
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I think there are quite a few advantages to the NAS approach and that may be the long term answer.

However, I'm not sure I want to go there yet. There's a significant cost (including UPS, providing power and CAT-6 to a suitable location etc.) and setting one up properly is a non-trivial project in itself.
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You are right on the cost. I have an 8 bay Synology NAS that I use to back up my images. I'm connected by CAT-5e Ethernet. The Synology was easy to setup and I was able to setup a cloud service but stopped using it mostly because my upload speed from my ISP was so slow. I can still grab the individual image but no bulk loading while I'm on the road.
 
Sean Nelson said:
skyglider said:
Not inclined to go the Apple route. Linux would be my choice at this time. I'll wait until Win7 and Win8.1 security support ends and maybe by that time Adobe will release versions of Photoshop and Lightroom that can run on Linux. Plan to wait and see.
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I wouldn't hold my breath on *nix support from Adobe - IMHO its market share is just too small for them to bother developing and testing on the myriad of different variants.
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But that was before Windows 10 came along. ... ;-) (wink)

Sky
 
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WIMorrison said:
Do you have Powerline devices on your side of the water? I have used the TP-Link devices several times to get around wiring issues and have found the performance excellent. They stream video in HD from my NAS (Netgear) with ease to all the rooms which I couldn't cable.
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Yeah, they are available and I've taken a peek in the past.

Some folks have great success and others not so much. Apparently, there are big problems when you want the two transceivers on different legs coming from your service/breaker panel. For some, that's turned out a complete showstopper.

If/when I install a NAS, it will likely be in one of the downstairs closets. Running CAT-6 will not be too hard -- straight through the crawl space. Running power will be more tricky, at least if it is to be fully code compliant.

I kind of think of the Powerline devices as a good option of last resort. The better units are not that cheap and they're still not going to match the performance of CAT-6 with Gigabit (or better) adapters. But when you have no other reasonable option, they can be a lifesaver.
 
Cliff Fujii said:
Cliff Fujii said:
However, I'm not sure I want to go there yet. There's a significant cost (including UPS, providing power and CAT-6 to a suitable location etc.) and setting one up properly is a non-trivial project in itself.
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You are right on the cost. I have an 8 bay Synology NAS that I use to back up my images. I'm connected by CAT-5e Ethernet. The Synology was easy to setup and I was able to setup a cloud service but stopped using it mostly because my upload speed from my ISP was so slow. I can still grab the individual image but no bulk loading while I'm on the road.
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Yep. And as soon as you permit any kind of access via the public network, you're opening a massive can of worms as far as security is concerned.
 
Cliff Fujii said:
Sean Nelson said:
Cliff Fujii said:
kelpdiver said:
I'm turning my blu-rays into mp4s so I can play them on any device in the house.
Click to expand...
will you be able to get the fidelity that the Blu-ray offers? I understand that there some compression involved with .mp4.
Click to expand...
Blu-ray IS MP4. MP4 is a wrapper for the H.264 video codec, and that's the same codec that's used on Blu-ray discs. It's just a matter of configuring the encoder to use the same (or even greater) quality settings as are used for Blu-ray discs.
Click to expand...
Blu-ray commercial encoding can be H.262/MPEG-2 or H.264/AVC, VC-1, or MPEG-4.
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Yes, but all of those standards involve compression.

My point is that H.264 is entirely capable of reproducing the same quality that you get from a BluRay disc, and since MP4 is based on it then yes, you can get the same fidelity from it. It's not a question of "MP4 vs. BluRay", it's a question of exporting your video to MP4 using the same encoding parameters as would be used for a quality BluRay release.
 
skyglider said:
Sean Nelson said:
skyglider said:
Not inclined to go the Apple route. Linux would be my choice at this time. I'll wait until Win7 and Win8.1 security support ends and maybe by that time Adobe will release versions of Photoshop and Lightroom that can run on Linux. Plan to wait and see.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't hold my breath on *nix support from Adobe - IMHO its market share is just too small for them to bother developing and testing on the myriad of different variants.
Click to expand...
But that was before Windows 10 came along. ... ;-) (wink)

Sky
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Actually OSX and Linux has lost market share to Windows after W10 came. MS must be forcing Windows installations to Macs and Linux computers, maybe via UEFI or all those Windows ads.
 
Archer66 said:
skyglider said:
Sean Nelson said:
skyglider said:
Not inclined to go the Apple route. Linux would be my choice at this time. I'll wait until Win7 and Win8.1 security support ends and maybe by that time Adobe will release versions of Photoshop and Lightroom that can run on Linux. Plan to wait and see.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't hold my breath on *nix support from Adobe - IMHO its market share is just too small for them to bother developing and testing on the myriad of different variants.
Click to expand...
But that was before Windows 10 came along. ... ;-) (wink)

Sky
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Actually OSX and Linux has lost market share to Windows after W10 came. MS must be forcing Windows installations to Macs and Linux computers, maybe via UEFI or all those Windows ads.
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I'm not sure since Apple uses it's tool kit to interface with the OS. I guess you can say that Apple OS is Linux based with a Mac shell.
 
malch said:
WIMorrison said:
Do you have Powerline devices on your side of the water? I have used the TP-Link devices several times to get around wiring issues and have found the performance excellent. They stream video in HD from my NAS (Netgear) with ease to all the rooms which I couldn't cable.
Click to expand...
Yeah, they are available and I've taken a peek in the past.

Some folks have great success and others not so much. Apparently, there are big problems when you want the two transceivers on different legs coming from your service/breaker panel. For some, that's turned out a complete showstopper.
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That would be because your service transformer blocks the signal. It acts like an RF choke.
Member said:
If/when I install a NAS, it will likely be in one of the downstairs closets. Running CAT-6 will not be too hard -- straight through the crawl space. Running power will be more tricky, at least if it is to be fully code compliant.
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I have my Synology in a closet and it heats up in the summer time. My Ethernet/phone service panel is in that closet that's why I put the NAS there. I tried to pipe AC into the closet but the contractor said that he would have to break the seal between the attic (which is closed) and the closet. I'm thinking of mounting an exhaust fan (whisper) on the closet door to pull hot air from the closet in times it gets beyond 80 degrees F. Right now, I just leave the closet door open.
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I kind of think of the Powerline devices as a good option of last resort. The better units are not that cheap and they're still not going to match the performance of CAT-6 with Gigabit (or better) adapters. But when you have no other reasonable option, they can be a lifesaver.
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you are only as fast as your slowest link. In my case, it's the internet connection. Internally I have great speed but unfortunately, it slows down at the router.
 
Sean Nelson said:
Cliff Fujii said:
Sean Nelson said:
Cliff Fujii said:
kelpdiver said:
I'm turning my blu-rays into mp4s so I can play them on any device in the house.
Click to expand...
will you be able to get the fidelity that the Blu-ray offers? I understand that there some compression involved with .mp4.
Click to expand...
Blu-ray IS MP4. MP4 is a wrapper for the H.264 video codec, and that's the same codec that's used on Blu-ray discs. It's just a matter of configuring the encoder to use the same (or even greater) quality settings as are used for Blu-ray discs.
Click to expand...
Blu-ray commercial encoding can be H.262/MPEG-2 or H.264/AVC, VC-1, or MPEG-4.
Click to expand...
Yes, but all of those standards involve compression.

My point is that H.264 is entirely capable of reproducing the same quality that you get from a BluRay disc, and since MP4 is based on it then yes, you can get the same fidelity from it. It's not a question of "MP4 vs. BluRay", it's a question of exporting your video to MP4 using the same encoding parameters as would be used for a quality BluRay release.
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I assume you are going to use SlySoft to rip your blu-rays?
 
I was wondering if I should upgrade my Windows 7 to Windows 10 since few weeks. Thanks to this article I definitely won't. Thank you :)
 
Cliff Fujii said:
you are only as fast as your slowest link. In my case, it's the internet connection. Internally I have great speed but unfortunately, it slows down at the router.
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Yeah, but I'm interested in the performance between my existing systems and a future NAS. No public network on the path to slow things down.
 
Cliff Fujii said:
will you be able to get the fidelity that the Blu-ray offers? I understand that there some compression involved with .mp4.
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Well, you can choose to keep the original compression, though 20-45G/movie adds up. Much better at 3-7 for most uses. Since I do in fact own the media, I can load it when I wish. But not every spot in the house has a disc player - some only have firesticks or apple tvs.

Interesting to see the note about AnyDVD - I wonder if the new entity will send me updates.
 
kelpdiver said:
Cliff Fujii said:
will you be able to get the fidelity that the Blu-ray offers? I understand that there some compression involved with .mp4.
Click to expand...
Well, you can choose to keep the original compression, though 20-45G/movie adds up. Much better at 3-7 for most uses. Since I do in fact own the media, I can load it when I wish. But not every spot in the house has a disc player - some only have firesticks or apple tvs.

Interesting to see the note about AnyDVD - I wonder if the new entity will send me updates.
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I'm waiting for RedFox to answer that question. Apparently Belize is more liberal on DRM than Antigua.
 
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