SantaFeBill
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http://www.howtogeek.com/243581/windows-10-may-delete-your-programs-without-asking/
As if another one was needed ... . :-D
As if another one was needed ... . :-D
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Another Reason to Stay Away from Windows 10
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If you run into this problem and you want to get the program back, just reinstall it. In most cases, this will involve re-downloading the program from its developer’s website. You’ll probably be downloading a newer version of the program than the one that Windows uninstalled, so it may just work without any hassle.
From your link..
If you run into this problem and you want to get the program back, just reinstall it. In most cases, this will involve re-downloading the program from its developer’s website. You’ll probably be downloading a newer version of the program than the one that Windows uninstalled, so it may just work without any hassle.
From your link..
SantaFeBill
Veteran Member
And why should you have to do this, when Microsoft, in its infinite arrogance, decides that you should no longer have a program for which you have paid, have a valid current license, and which is working on your computer?
Glen Barrington
Veteran Member
Has just bent you over the desk and proved how much they "love" you.
SantaFeBill
Veteran Member
Glen, thank you. Once more, you've made my day.
There are those here that I very much wish would go away, and those I wish could stay forever.
You are on the second of those lists.
The others keep getting added to my ignore list.
If it's that simple, why did MS uninstall it in the first place?
I take such articles with a grain of salt. Things usually aren't as bad as the FUD indicates. I also find it difficult to believe that even MS would do something like this in a business environment. Just imagine if a Windows update removed a homegrown accounting package from all the PCs?
I find it much easier to believe the update broke installed apps.
Vernon D Rainwater
Veteran Member
This makes me realize even more why I don't need (or want) Windows 10. This perhaps is a new approach for when a new (or current Windows OS) does not function properly-- instead of fixing the OS just delete the items (programs) that the OS does not handle properly. Then, Microsoft can brag (even more) of what a perfect Windows OS they have produced
Glen Barrington
Veteran Member
Well thank you!
AwkwardSwine
Leading Member
This is another alarmist and chicken little article about windows 10. There is nothing new about this in Windows 10. Windows upgrades have long since removed certain Antivirus and Utility programs that install buggy drivers that hook non-public kernel data structures. Not removing them on upgrade would result in bluescreening when the bad drivers load and crash in the new OS.
Most of the time there is a newer and compatible version of the app available, so reinstalling it is a good solution. Most of the Antivirus software knows how to update itself to avoid the issue in the first place. Finally, some of this software is removed at the request of the software vendor who requested that Microsoft get rid of it.
Patsy Murphy
Veteran Member
More Bulls--t from anti Microsoft and Win 10 begrudgers, not to worry July 29th 2016 is looming. I wonder how many will be left standing.
Regards Patsym
m_a_schuster
Well-known member
Exactly so. I have upgraded numerous machines having existing installs of Avira Free Antivirus. The entire upgrade proceeds with the AV loaded and realtime protection still running. There never was a hiccup, and Avira was still installed and running after booting Win10. At that time, Avira puts up a notice that it has to do a self-update for better Win10 compatibility; it does that, and all is well.
SantaFeBill
Veteran Member
"Nothing new about this in Windows 10"? I've used Windows since 3.1. Sometimes (very rarely) a program would crash after an update. But never did the update remove the program, much less lie about it and tell me that no changes had been made to my computer.
So let me ask you this: Someone uses your computer with your permission. They remove some program or programs they believe should not be on your computer. They not only do not tell you they have done so, but they tell you the opposite - that they made no changes to what is installed on your computer.
Are you O.K. with that, even if the person is a Windows expert? If not, why is it all right for Microsoft to do it?
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Cliff Fujii
Veteran Member
Most of the time the auto update feature will removed only those programs that will conflict with Windows. I believe this is so because Microsoft is now offering free technical support for Windows 10 users so it's in their best interest to minimize the situations where you have to call MS.
I've been through the fall update and my version of ccleaner was not removed. I do try to keep my drivers and software up to date. Dell has provided me with a driver manager for it's hardware as has Intel.
Cliff Fujii
Veteran Member
A business environment is handled differently if you have enterprise support. An enterprise can customize their Microsoft experience by setting up active directory and manage how they want the updates to work for their environment by using the group policy feature. I'm not surprised that Microsoft has taken this track as it will lower their cost to support your windows 10 environment.
Cliff Fujii
Veteran Member
because you agreed to let Microsoft do this. If you object, just remove windows and install something else. iOS does a similar thing but they trap unsuitable software at the installation end rather than at the up grade end. You notice that if you upgrade iOS, you jail break is removed...
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Patco
Guest
The post upgrade screen does not say "no changes have been made" to your computer; it says "All your files are exactly where you left them", not your programs.
The someone who uses your computer with your permission, does not own the OS - MS does.
However, I wholeheartedly agree with you that MS should not remove any programs during the upgrade process, without advising what, if anything, is to be removed.
Sean Nelson
Veteran Member
Can't come soon enough for me, especially if it means they stop trying to persuade / cajole / trick me into upgrading.
DonA2
Veteran Member
If running fine on W-7 there is little to fear on July 2016. The world will still turn and there will be W-7.
SantaFeBill
Veteran Member
Thanks for this info. It is really sicking to learn about Win10 deleting programs without asking. MS may own the OS but they do not own non-MS software. They have no right to delete ANY software that they do not own, period!
IMO, MS was a fine company until Bill Gates relinquished his CEO position.
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