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Nikon announces DL 1" compacts! 4K/30p, EXPEED 6A, OLED, Wi-Fi/NFC, $649/$849/$999!!
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" The 18-50 is the only one of the camera cameras to lack a built-in flash, though like its siblings it does have a hot shoe."
I think it makes sense for the type of photography associated with ultra wide angle
I think it makes sense for the type of photography associated with ultra wide angle
I actually find this a little depressing. It's like they took the best stuff from Nikon 1 (PDAF, fast shooting speeds, J5 sensor) and updated it with the glass everyone wanted for N1 and a few other bells and whistles (e.g. NFC). That's all fine and good, but what about something for those that bought into Nikon 1? What about a new V-series body? What about comparable glass for N1 that people have been begging for for years?
If this is a separate line that is successful for them while they still support N1 with new bodies and glass, ok fine. If this is them canabilizing the N1 system just to make some new fixed lens camera, I'm not happy at all.
If this is a separate line that is successful for them while they still support N1 with new bodies and glass, ok fine. If this is them canabilizing the N1 system just to make some new fixed lens camera, I'm not happy at all.
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Just read it also comes with snapbridge which the d500 has as well.
And great video specs:
3840 x 2160 (30p, 25p), 1920 x 1080 (60p, 50p, 30p, 25p), 1280 x 720 (60p, 50p, 30p, 25p)
Slow motion: 1080/120p, 720/240p, 800 x 296 (400p), 400 x 144 (1200p)
And great video specs:
3840 x 2160 (30p, 25p), 1920 x 1080 (60p, 50p, 30p, 25p), 1280 x 720 (60p, 50p, 30p, 25p)
Slow motion: 1080/120p, 720/240p, 800 x 296 (400p), 400 x 144 (1200p)
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Richard Murdey
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It's a precise list of everything people wanted, from the EV comp dial and standard hot shoe to f/1.8 and 4K video. Can't say they didn't listen. If you liked the LX100 you'll love these cameras. I would say it's an "RX100 killer" but I'm not yet convinced on that point. The extra EVF for one thing, while the larger lens protrusion and blockier body generally means it isn't quite as pocketable as the RX100.
I do like the zoom ring though. Nice touch.
Styling overall seems unnecessarily harsh though. Almost no curves at all. The echoes to the Nikon film bodies (S3?) in the camera's lines are perceptible, but so faint that most people won't appreciate them anyway.
My opinion? Well, it's not my thing. And not just because the EVF alone costs as much as what three V1 bodies go for nowadays. I'm a lens junkie. A prime lens junkie at that. I'd buy a Coolpix A before I got any of these.
For Nikon my concern is that they've built an RX100, but they haven't outdone the RX100. Not in the 24-70 version anyway. Not that I can see.
I do like the zoom ring though. Nice touch.
Styling overall seems unnecessarily harsh though. Almost no curves at all. The echoes to the Nikon film bodies (S3?) in the camera's lines are perceptible, but so faint that most people won't appreciate them anyway.
My opinion? Well, it's not my thing. And not just because the EVF alone costs as much as what three V1 bodies go for nowadays. I'm a lens junkie. A prime lens junkie at that. I'd buy a Coolpix A before I got any of these.
For Nikon my concern is that they've built an RX100, but they haven't outdone the RX100. Not in the 24-70 version anyway. Not that I can see.
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Will not happen. Can not happen. For reasons I went in to elsewhere.
You cannot detach that DL lens and stick it on a J5 and get a nice photo. You would not care for the result at all if it were done. (of course I don't know how bad, -3EV? -4EV vignetting? 15%, 20% distortion? How much would you accept?)
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Sure agree with your comments. It is hard to imagine Nikon will abandon the V3/70-300/32/6.7-13/etc line. If they do, they will seriously damage any existing users for the future. Time will tell, but i hope they have the integrity to tell us . . .
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When I came to the Nikon 1 forums (days ago really), I was just looking around to see how people liked their 1 system. I'm currently using a J4 that my friend let me borrow, along with his 10mm and 18.5mm primes. Other than the wifi/app being a little laggy, i'm extremely impressed with the IQ and overall speed of the camera.
I was hellbent on getting a J5 and those two primes the moment any of them went on sale...... then nikon announces these DL cameras.
The DL18-50 will single handedly replace 3 of my current cameras. Unfortunately, a summer release means I cannot get and use the DL18-50 for Japan next month. What I will be doing though, is be bringing this J4 with its primes, my Canon G9 X, and my Canon EOS-M3 with the 22mm and 11-22mm.
Had the DL18-50 been avail now, I'd only bring that, and enjoy japan without fumbling with 3 small cameras. Not that I dislike doing that, but it's just easier when you have less to carry around.
I hope Japan gets these early on so I can play with them at BIC or yodobashi, but then I shouldn't get my hopes up. Now that I think about it, summer feels pretty far away.. and then there's photokina.. Either way, my wallet will not be happy.
I was hellbent on getting a J5 and those two primes the moment any of them went on sale...... then nikon announces these DL cameras.
The DL18-50 will single handedly replace 3 of my current cameras. Unfortunately, a summer release means I cannot get and use the DL18-50 for Japan next month. What I will be doing though, is be bringing this J4 with its primes, my Canon G9 X, and my Canon EOS-M3 with the 22mm and 11-22mm.
Had the DL18-50 been avail now, I'd only bring that, and enjoy japan without fumbling with 3 small cameras. Not that I dislike doing that, but it's just easier when you have less to carry around.
I hope Japan gets these early on so I can play with them at BIC or yodobashi, but then I shouldn't get my hopes up. Now that I think about it, summer feels pretty far away.. and then there's photokina.. Either way, my wallet will not be happy.
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I admit I don't quite follow why you would need so many cameras, or what goal you achieve by doing so, but if the DL18-50 covers those needs then great!
Although I have a lot of gear, this is mostly for variety and flexibility going out, I almost never carry more than one camera and lens with me at a time.
Since I have all the lenses for my V1, and since the V1 has a built in viewfinder, I will stick with where I am. For the times I need wide angle, the 6.7-13 is more than good enough for me.
They look like very nice cameras. They will complement the Nikon 1 line.
The 24-85 model is the best in my opinion.
Interesting that they chose to put "35mm" equivalent markings on the lens instead of the actual focal lengths.
I plan on sticking with Nikon 1, though. I'd like to get that 18.5mm and 30-110mm at some point.
The 24-85 model is the best in my opinion.
Interesting that they chose to put "35mm" equivalent markings on the lens instead of the actual focal lengths.
I plan on sticking with Nikon 1, though. I'd like to get that 18.5mm and 30-110mm at some point.
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About that, the G9 X will be my gf's camera during this trip. My original plan was to just use the M3 + 11-22 during the day, then switch to the 22mm at night. My friend then lent me his J4 with the 10mm and 18.5mm, and I really can't say no to using more gadgets on a trip. If not for the M3's wide zoom, I would just leave it at home, since the J4 with its 2 primes work well enough for me to replace the M3. And by well enough, I mean using the J4 is actually really fun and enjoyable, and the results are great for my purposes.
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TR , are you Hakata , Krume , Nagahama , or other ?
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I am of the basic hakata style! Though with each trip to japan, I try to expand and learn more about other styles. Sometimes, the differences are too subtle I don't know that I've eaten a different type of ramen until I get home to review the pics! Though I must say I'm starting to enjoy shoyu/tonkotsu-shoyu ramen more often, especially kitakata and tokushima type ramen.
I like in Kurume.
I like in Kurume.
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I don't think I have enough time to go that far this trip, but I will definitely add kurume style to my list!
Do you know of any good shops, or even chains, from kurume that have shops in kanto or kansai ?
Do you know of any good shops, or even chains, from kurume that have shops in kanto or kansai ?
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The AF speed and accuracy. This is the one thing I have found the Sony lacking ( and that's the rX100 MKIV). That's the big win of the Nikon. Also the ergonomics for photography seem better.
Honestly given the prices, not bad at all (ah yes, they outclass the Sony in price too). Unless the lens is bad, the Sony RX100 MKIII/MKIV lens is actually pretty darn good.
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Wins are wins. If people disliked the RX100 AF or ergonomics, then Nikon can leverage that. If they are basically happy already maybe not so much.
No, not bad at all. As good as can be reasonably expected. The external EVF is the only real pain point, but I see the logic of not paying for something you don't need, and getting a really nice one if you do. I just prefer it built in, since I use it all the time.
I'm sure the image quality will be as good as RX100. But as good as Nikon 1. This I doubt. One has to cling to something you know!!
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If the image quality is as good as an RX100, then in many situations that's as good as a Nikon 1.
Can we assume that the sensor performance and image quality will at least be the equal of the 1 series cameras? The DL series could seriously cannibalize 1 series sales, obviously. I've been playing with the idea of picking up a cheap 1 series, but the DL 18-50 scraps that idea entirely.
On the other hand, the features of the DL series could herald the improvements of an upcoming 1 body.
On the other hand, the features of the DL series could herald the improvements of an upcoming 1 body.
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