Good job Sony! But now it's time to build up a professional flash system for A7RII/A7II

Given the dates on the poor Amazon reviews on the Mitros I'd guess those were old ISO units with adapters (I could be wrong)I use a Mitros and a "+" unit (both with the multi-interface shoe) with my a6K bodies in a professional environment. On camera, off camera, in just about any configuration, I've had no errors from the flash (User error is another thing). I highly recommend them and am looking forward to shipping of the OdinII later this year.
User error was my first though too. We see far to often when traching photography how easy it is to blaim the equipment if it does not work as expected right out of the box, without setting it up propetly before use.
 
Realistically, I really dont know anyone who nowadays uses Canon/Nikon speedlites or studio flash (do they actually make them?). What we are looking for really is third party compatibility. I think we will see that from Godox by the end of the year.
 
Is there a technical reason why AF assist light doesn't work with mirrorless cameras?
 
Actually,we use the appropriate tools for whatever the client needs. Speedlights primarily, but battery powered monolights, Einsteins, ,etc. Cheap is fine but good is better. You can't "make do" on a paying gig, you must produce. I've got 3 distinct sets of lights in my bag for whatever the situation requires. After nearly a year of consistent use I'm very pleased with Mitros.
 
Nissin announced i60a, a GN60 (at 200mm, ISO100) compact flash compatible with air 1 commander system and it looked like the perfect mirrorless wireless flash solution (300gram, also much shorter than di700a).


I do not mind if Sony neglect their own flash system :P
 
Looks very interesting that Nissin i60..
 
I just wish they had had a built in commander to fire any flashes without being on the hot shoe. A
I agree that a wireless commander option, even if you need an external device, should be possible given the wireless and NFC connectivity options.
I agree, Sony needs to get their act together regarding their flash (cough) system, I've been waiting for a competent and reliable setup to replace my sold Canon + Pocket Wizard setup I used to have, Mini-TT1 + AC3 was a great combo, so easy to use, I would love something like the AC3 to control an internal radio transmitter.

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I would love to see Pocket Wizard combine the Mini-TT1 and AC3 into a single small device, and add a Sony version.

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Nissin announced i60a, a GN60 (at 200mm, ISO100) compact flash compatible with air 1 commander system and it looked like the perfect mirrorless wireless flash solution (300gram, also much shorter than di700a).

http://www.nissin-japan.com/2016/02/i60a-d316.html

I do not mind if Sony neglect their own flash system :P
How does the i60a compare to the i700a? Is it a much better choice?
 
Di700a is more powerful but much bigger, i personally prefer the form factor of the i60 they both can be used with the Air commander but unfortunately none of them has the external Af assist light support so in my case i will buy the i60 to replace my i40 but it won't solve my biggest problem with mirrorless camera flash photography...
 
I really don't understand... for example while using speedlight FL600 on Olympus mirrorless bodies, the LED on the flash works as Autofocus assist lamp, it's a good solution but i would prefer a normal red led pattern assist light like we normally see in Canon and Nikon flash units. By the way i did myself a test using the AF assist light of a Nikon SB910 flash to illuminate a target and the A7RII was focusing quite well on it...
 
http://www.dpreview.com/news/5735203214/nissin-releases-i60a-flash-unit-with-a-guide-number-of-60m

"Although each unit will have a TTL system dedicated to the mount it is designed for, the i60A also comes with multiple control systems built-in. This means that every flash can be used off-camera in an optically connected network of Canon, Nikon and Sony TTL flashes, no matter the mount. The i60A is equipped with 8 channels."

I like it, so i can buy one for Nikon and one for Sony and always be able to use two flashes at the same time, one on camera and one off camera! But still no AF assist for A7.. :(
 
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Mitros is bigger and heavier..
 
I wonder how the phottix system is. It seems like that's the one that Gary Fong uses the most in older videos. Only challenge is that it seems like it's hard to find in stock in sony MIS mount, and it's somewhat pricy - but about comparable to pocket wizard.

I have the di700a and air commander setup, and just use optical slave for my other lights and it's ok, not great. I've used it on paid shoots and 80% of the time I don't have issues with it - I just make it a point to re-pair the lights before I start shooting. Sometimes the air commander has issues getting a signal out of confined spaces though which is annoying. Also agree with the other poster that the mount itself on the MIS shoe seems way too flimsy - the di700 on camera would be way too fragile I think for real professional use, but that's less a ding on the nissin and more about the mount design itself. If I did a lot of running and gunning, I'd likely invest in an offset flash rig anyways that mounts the lite next to the camera on a sturdier platform and just use a sync cable.

I don't think we can rely on Sony for a professional light system, but would love to be proven wrong. The reality also is that even stuff like pocket wizards have issues with syncing and firing too.

Nissin was supposed to release an RF receiver compatible with the air commander a few months ago, but haven't seen anything yet. I'd be more inclined to stick with the nissin system longer term if that's released because I could then easily integrate HSS with say an einstein strobe. The actual di700 speedlite is ok and has good power, but it has quirks that bug me a lot. You have to control the zoom off camera through the air commander, which is idiotic. The air commander itself eats AAA batteries like crazy - you have to use eneloops or a comparable high capacity battery on the trigger otherwise you'll be replacing batteries on the thing every hour
 
Di700A has a GN of 54, the Di60A has GN60...Am I missing something? Why would someone buy the larger Di700A if there's the Di60A?
 
Di700A has a GN of 54, the Di60A has GN60...Am I missing something? Why would someone buy the larger Di700A if there's the Di60A?
you need to see how the light from both actually projects @ 200mm zoom... it is possible that Di60A simply throws a much narrower cone
 
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Why can't i find articles on the Di60A on both google and youtube? Is that the exact model?
Take a deep breath... It was only announced 48 hours ago! The correct name is i60A.
 
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