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Canon 80D vs Nikon D500
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Alastair Norcross
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Yxa
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gatorowl
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Neither camera has been released or tested. Fortunately, I'm not in the market. I have a 7DMII for sports, and a Nikon D7200 for wildlife (I prefer its IQ and low-light capabilities). If the 80D significantly closes the gap to the D7200, my 7DMII will be replaced with it. I have a lot of great Canon glass, and it would be great to have a Canon APS-C body that could fully exploit their potential.
As much as I am enchanted by the D500-- auto-AF tuning seems very enticing; I don't care about video--I struggle to imagine what would prompt me to purchase it. I am extremely skeptical that it will provide a significant improvement over the D7200s IQ/low-light abilities. For me I'd rather not shoot above ISO3200. ISO6400 is okay on FF but anything higher requires too much of a compromise in IQ on any camera body. Therefore, I highly doubt that there will be enough (if any) improvement in low-light ability to get me to fork out the big bucks that Nikon is asking for this body.
Thus, unless you need the special D500 features--high continuous rate, bigger buffer, improved AF, improved video, better weather sealing--the D7200 provides more than enough features for DX shooters and would be a better choice. By contrast, the 80D has a greater potential to move the needle for Canon.
So for me, let's wait and see the test results. I could be tempted by the 80D; but I don't see spending more money on top-of-the-line Nikon bodies.
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KariP
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But making a good "movie " is not that easy. It is so difficult , that it is a rarity to see a well edited amateur video that tells a story and has decent sound . Where could we see one? It is quite painful to look at technically great videoclips from some good looking place - admiring IQ of 4K gets boring and 8K probably makes it deadly...;-).
If you enjoy it - then just enjoy ! Great thing to own great tools - really great if i could use them.
Higgins2002
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I don't get what this have to do with 4k it isn't harder to make a good movie because you use 4k as a source it's hard with 1080 sources too.
I was pointing out that 4k can be used for extracting 8mp stills.
and when 8k come you extracting 32mp stills.
then there is S-log, V-log and C-log to extend your editing possibilities.
Another birder
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They only really come into play in the continuous tracking modes. They act like any other 'selectable' AF point would in this mode, by transferring information across the frame and doing AF type tasks such as focusing the lens
personally I have no desire to have to manually scroll around 155 points - most of the time I limit it to 9 or 21 anyway. Even with the 7dmk2 I change to the group AF modes to make it easier.
Another birder
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rhlpetrus
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The D500 and the 80D belong in different markets and applications. The D500's AF system is, at least on paper, the most advanced of any camera existing or announced, exactly same as the one in the D5, Nikon's flagship. It may or may not perform as proposed, that's something users and testers will check.
The D500 may be compared to the 7D2 now, and to the 7D3 when it comes, as they are designed to be used in action, they have top AF systems and are very fast. I doubt the 80D's AF will match the D500's system in continuous mode. It'd be interesting to see how it compares to the one in the D7200, its obvious competitor from Nikon.
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Even for year 2015,
People still asks their DVD format videos than Full HD outputs
2016 might change a bit more but doubt that 4K will be easily acceptable
I got experience client opening Full HD video that I sent using Intel Atom NETBOOK and saying that the video is laggy until I ask, what computers you are using and #facepalm when they say NETBOOK Intel Atom
Peter63
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They do have 99 cross type, but only 35 selectable cross type. What also seems strange to me is the way all of the points are clustered near the center of the frame and within that block of points, there is only a central square and then a left and right stripe that are selectable cross type. You would think that with 99 cross type they would give you 55 selectable to evenly cover the entire sensor module.
For some applications, I can see that the grouping combined with Nikon's tracking would be very effective. For other applications, I can imagine being frustrated with the lack of frame coverage.
KariP
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sandy b
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Peter63
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I guess I was looking at the image with the same AF module overlaid on the FF view finder. Coverage looks better on crop but those two vertical stripes without cross type coverage would annoy me.
sandy b
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Shouldn't make much diff, look, it's the exact same AF module as the D5, which is supposedly improved on the excellent D4S. I have no doubt the D500 will have incredible AF, metering and tracking. As good as the 7D2? That's another thread for later. Better than the 80D? Undoubtedly. At that price, it better.
Poweruser
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Nikon colors out of the box still stink compared to Canon. I have ten years experience in image editing, not only my photos but editing whatever photographers on assignment deliver (from Nikon to Canon to Hasselblad).
That alone is reason enough for me to prefer Canon for my personal work. It is simply far less hassle.
As far as performance is concerned, I´m still satisfied with an "old" EOS 50D. I dont see anything a 7D / 7DII or D500 or whatever could do to improve my photography. I dont need a million ISO, I dont need ten frames a second, I dont need 200 cross-type AF points or a shitload of dynamic range. And I dont need a flippy screen or electronic finder.
PS: For video I have this little Sony NEX plastic toy. Works great.
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rhlpetrus
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Check the images the best pros were able to shoot in pre af days with top cameras, say football. Now check what a pretty average shooter can do with current systems at a school football game.
This thing about gear doesn't matter is pure bs.
Poweruser
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Not sure if you´re adressing me. Of course gear matters. That´s why I prefer Canon. You may want to read my post again.
Im also not interested in school football. In that case you may need a current high end camera with whatever features are necessary for relevant pictures of school football. Cheers!
I hope the D500 is as good as it looks by the specs. That will mean a better 7diii whenever that will be. Nikonians have been waiting a long time for a worthy D300 upgrade. : )
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Steve-P
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Strange no further comment from her, almost a little trollish behaviour.
Light the blue touch paper and stand back. ;-)
Light the blue touch paper and stand back. ;-)
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