Pentax FA 24/2 IF AL and Pentax FA 28/2.8 . Can those who have used these lenses let me know about t

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My FF primes are old Vivitar apart fom my DA 35 macro and FA 77 and am interested in Pentax primes and these two in particular.

Good in their day ...but how good compared to mire modern lenses etc.

what in your opinion are their strengths and weaknesses

thank you

Tom
 
I had the FA 28/2.8. Compared to the FA 35mm 2.0 I found it disappointingly soft wide open. Had to stop it down to 5.6 to get really good sharpness. Sold it and haven't missed it. But then again I have the focal length well covered with other lenses.

Kjell
 
I have both.

FA* 24

Pros

  • autofocus clutch mechanism is cool
  • fast, sure autofocus on the k5
  • f/2 aperture
  • high contrast stopped down
  • extremely high center resolution stopped down
  • the only fast wide AF lens for Pentax.:-/
  • relatively lightweight considering speed and wide angle
  • unique color transmission curve gives some images a special something
  • Aperture ring
Cons
  • poor resolution wide open
  • poor contrast wide open
  • only sharp in the very very center of frame until stopped down considerably, starting around f 5.6
  • strong green color cast
  • bright-ring bokeh
  • bokeh CA
  • build quality, especially included lens hood, easily jammed and damaged, not built to last
  • autofocus clutch mechanism can feel sticky jammy, prone to dirt/grit getting in there
FA 28 2.8

pros

  • nice compact little AF prime
  • excellent close focus bokeh and behavior
  • sharp little landscape lens
  • very affordable
  • 185 g
  • aperture ring
  • better than other oft-praised Pentax 28mm manual focus primes but somehow always overlooked
  • excellent build quality
  • barely notice it's there
  • great for street shooting
cons
  • some veiling/softness wide open
  • 6 aperture blades
  • manual focus ring more an afterthought, this is an AF lens
  • no matched lens hood, but it needs one
  • f/2.8 isn't the brightest prime out there
  • you do have to stop down for best contrast/resolution
Matt

My FF primes are old Vivitar apart fom my DA 35 macro and FA 77 and am interested in Pentax primes and these two in particular.

Good in their day ...but how good compared to mire modern lenses etc.

what in your opinion are their strengths and weaknesses

thank you

Tom
 
I have both.

FA* 24

Pros

  • autofocus clutch mechanism is cool
  • fast, sure autofocus on the k5
  • f/2 aperture
  • high contrast stopped down
  • extremely high center resolution stopped down
  • the only fast wide AF lens for Pentax.:-/
  • relatively lightweight considering speed and wide angle
  • unique color transmission curve gives some images a special something
  • Aperture ring
Cons
  • poor resolution wide open
  • poor contrast wide open
  • only sharp in the very very center of frame until stopped down considerably, starting around f 5.6
  • strong green color cast
  • bright-ring bokeh
  • bokeh CA
  • build quality, especially included lens hood, easily jammed and damaged, not built to last
  • autofocus clutch mechanism can feel sticky jammy, prone to dirt/grit getting in there
FA 28 2.8

pros

  • nice compact little AF prime
  • excellent close focus bokeh and behavior
  • sharp little landscape lens
  • very affordable
  • 185 g
  • aperture ring
  • better than other oft-praised Pentax 28mm manual focus primes but somehow always overlooked
  • excellent build quality
  • barely notice it's there
  • great for street shooting
cons
  • some veiling/softness wide open
  • 6 aperture blades
  • manual focus ring more an afterthought, this is an AF lens
  • no matched lens hood, but it needs one
  • f/2.8 isn't the brightest prime out there
  • you do have to stop down for best contrast/resolution
Matt
My FF primes are old Vivitar apart fom my DA 35 macro and FA 77 and am interested in Pentax primes and these two in particular.

Good in their day ...but how good compared to mire modern lenses etc.

what in your opinion are their strengths and weaknesses

thank you

Tom
 
KLM .. well that seems to have nailed it for all of us.

I can get hold of a good copy of 28 a FA and its not expensive ... so I will go with that and hold!!
 
My FF primes are old Vivitar apart fom my DA 35 macro and FA 77 and am interested in Pentax primes and these two in particular.

Good in their day ...but how good compared to mire modern lenses etc.
Heh Tom. My opinions of the FA 28 are based on pretty extensive use with and *istDS (6MP) and relatively little use with a K10D. I don't think it's every seen my K5, since by the time I had my K5 I already owned an FA 31 limited and the DA 21, both of which crush the FA 28 for contrast and punch. But obviously the DA won't cover a full frame, and the FA 31 costs many times what the 28 does, and isn't as wide.

For an alternative that may be sharper and more contrasty, I'd consider the Sigma 28 1.8 macro. This is a much la



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I have all the DA Limiteds and the FA28, and I was surprised to find that the 28 equals them on APS-C (at least my copy does). I'm interested to see how this lens performs on the K-1, and since it's a good landscape focal length, I don't care if it has to be stopped down as long as I get good corners at f8.
 
I have the FA 28mm F2.8 as well,

I generally agree with the above.

the lens has a short focus throw, so you can expect it to focus quickly even though it is screw driven AF.

it woks well and is pretty sharp, but when comparing it to my tamron 28-75 F2.8, I couldn't see much difference (definitely not enough to justify carrying both). so as a result I don't use it as much.
 
I have the FA 28mm F2.8 as well,

I generally agree with the above.

the lens has a short focus throw, so you can expect it to focus quickly even though it is screw driven AF.

it woks well and is pretty sharp, but when comparing it to my tamron 28-75 F2.8, I couldn't see much difference (definitely not enough to justify carrying both). so as a result I don't use it as much.
Yeah I compared it closely to the (mark I) kit lens and 16-45 back in the day and couldn't see enough differences to justify it over either. The only thing it brought was compact size and the f/2.8 max aperture. But those two lenses were the widest ones I had anyway so I was likely to have them in the bag either way, which is why the 28 got little use. On FF, however, I can totally see the use for it, because it's then like the DA 21 or DA 15: a tiny sharp prime that's easy to bring along if you don't want the weight of a beheamouth like the 15-30 in your bag and they other lenses you are carrying don't include a standard zoom like the 24-70.

Matt
 
I have all the DA Limiteds and the FA28, and I was surprised to find that the 28 equals them on APS-C (at least my copy does). I'm interested to see how this lens performs on the K-1, and since it's a good landscape focal length, I don't care if it has to be stopped down as long as I get good corners at f8.
 
is the fa 28 the same formula as the m 28/2.8? I have had some excellent sharp images fully open on my a7r.
 
is the fa 28 the same formula as the m 28/2.8? I have had some excellent sharp images fully open on my a7r.
No,

it's a complete different design, it's even different than the F28mm/2.8. From the Pentax forums the F version is the same as the A version which is the same as the second version of the M version.
 
I have both.

FA* 24

Cons

  • poor resolution wide open
  • poor contrast wide open
  • only sharp in the very very center of frame until stopped down considerably, starting around f 5.6
  • strong green color cast
  • bright-ring bokeh
  • bokeh CA
  • build quality, especially included lens hood, easily jammed and damaged, not built to last
  • autofocus clutch mechanism can feel sticky jammy, prone to dirt/grit getting in there
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTIST&subSection=183820&subSubSection=0&language=EN
My copy has good resolution wide-opened and really sharp from f2.8. Good contrast.



Build like a tank. Hood is really good for 15 years of use.

Autofocus clutch mechanism no any problems at all.
 
KLM .. well that seems to have nailed it for all of us.

I can get hold of a good copy of 28 a FA and its not expensive ... so I will go with that and hold!!

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Yes, I think the FA 28 2.8 is a good choice. I agree completely with KLM's comments. I tested the lens briefly on my A7r and found it very sharp into the corners at mid apertures. Contrast and flare resistance very good. I won't comment on wide open performance because that was not part of my test. The main reason I'm not using it with the A7r is that I have a non-Pentax MF lens that is equally good optically and more convenient to focus on the A7r. The FA lens continues to be a permanent part of my Pentax APS-C setup.

For a lens hood, I've been using a nice metal screw-in hood made by Olympus for their 28/3.5.
 
My FF primes are old Vivitar apart fom my DA 35 macro and FA 77 and am interested in Pentax primes and these two in particular.

Good in their day ...but how good compared to mire modern lenses etc.
Heh Tom. My opinions of the FA 28 are based on pretty extensive use with and *istDS (6MP) and relatively little use with a K10D. I don't think it's every seen my K5, since by the time I had my K5 I already owned an FA 31 limited and the DA 21, both of which crush the FA 28 for contrast and punch. But obviously the DA won't cover a full frame, and the FA 31 costs many times what the 28 does, and isn't as wide.

For an alternative that may be sharper and more contrasty, I'd consider the Sigma 28 1.8 macro. This is a much la







rger lens, however.
 
I don't think the first version of the M28 2.8 is particularly good. I haven't seen much point in trying it on my Sony FF. The SMC Takumar 28/3.5 and the K 28/3.5 are quite decent on the A7r at mid apertures other than some corner softness, which is an issue with many wide angles on that body. They may be better with a sensor optimized for the Pentax registration distance.

The same is true for the 35/3.5. I've tested the Super Takumar, SMC Takumar and K versions with similar results.

I might as well add that I've also tested the 35/2.0 SMC Takumar and K versions. They were not particularly sharp, as is the case on APS-C.

It has occurred to me that some older lenses that are not really sharp may be quite nice in some portraiture applications. For example, the old 105/2.8s might be fun.
 
I have the F 28mm f/2.8, which I think is different from the FA version only in cosmetics. Others will doubtless correct me if not.

I love it. My favourite lens. Something lovely about the bokeh and colours, and it can be very sharp - at middle apertures testing pixel shift on my K3-II I was staggered what it can do. I don't bother with pixel shift but if I did this lens would be well up for the task. But who knows what it's like at the edges of a super-high res FF sensor...

And yes, it focuses fast and accurately too.

On APS-C the focal length is very versatile, just wider than standard and so very natural in perspective. In film days I was always a fan of 28mm for different reasons, as a proper wide-angle.

Paul
 
I have the F 28mm f/2.8, which I think is different from the FA version only in cosmetics. Others will doubtless correct me if not.

I love it. My favourite lens. Something lovely about the bokeh and colours, and it can be very sharp - at middle apertures testing pixel shift on my K3-II I was staggered what it can do. I don't bother with pixel shift but if I did this lens would be well up for the task. But who knows what it's like at the edges of a super-high res FF sensor...

And yes, it focuses fast and accurately too.

On APS-C the focal length is very versatile, just wider than standard and so very natural in perspective. In film days I was always a fan of 28mm for different reasons, as a proper wide-angle.

Paul
F28 and FA28 are different lenses optically. I had both.


 

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