5Ds has small pixels so high noise at very high iso. It's OK to be conservative in the normal iso range but give users an option for more than just 1 measly extra stop in custom functions!
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Higgins2002
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Higgins2002
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And the 80D has smaller pixels than the 5Ds.
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I hope you're right.
But I don't give much credit to the difference between 80D sensor picture and 70D sensor picture.
Have you compared 80D sensor picture to 760D sensor picture? To me they're almost the same.
Higgins2002
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not all lenses can use the 45 cross type point either
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* The vast majority of currently-available Canon EF and EF-S lenses provide cross-type coverage at all 45 AF points. Among current lenses, noteworthy exceptions are the EF-S 10–18mm f/4.5–5.6 IS STM lens (all 45 points active, but cross-type AF only at central 15 points); the EF 11–24mm f/4L USM (outer-most vertical row at left/right become single-line sensors; cross-type at all other AF points); and the EF 100mm f/2.8 USM macro lens (without IS), which limits AF to the central 35 AF points, with cross-type coverage at the central 15 points. Note that many older, discontinued EF and EF-S lenses may limit AF coverage as well.
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* The vast majority of currently-available Canon EF and EF-S lenses provide cross-type coverage at all 45 AF points. Among current lenses, noteworthy exceptions are the EF-S 10–18mm f/4.5–5.6 IS STM lens (all 45 points active, but cross-type AF only at central 15 points); the EF 11–24mm f/4L USM (outer-most vertical row at left/right become single-line sensors; cross-type at all other AF points); and the EF 100mm f/2.8 USM macro lens (without IS), which limits AF to the central 35 AF points, with cross-type coverage at the central 15 points. Note that many older, discontinued EF and EF-S lenses may limit AF coverage as well.
Higgins2002
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-3.0EV AF sensitivity available only in one-shot mode , not with AI Servo
Landscapeforfun
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Man this camera comes with more asterisks, exceptions and, buts than anything i've ever seen...
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rrccad
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not really. canon always specifies if there is limitations.
other vendors wait until it's in the user hands to figure out.
which would you rather have?
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rrccad
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yes. most canon cameras have this once you get past a certain number of points. 7D2, 1 series / 5D III,etc.
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rrccad
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that is a very very very good call on that.
it could certainly be there's different generations of sensors (we hope).
however there's a good chance that the 80D sensor may not be much better than the 760D sensor.
in which case I'll need popcorn.
to be fair, I find the 760D sensor to be quite good .. i rarely have a scene that I can't single expose, in which I would not want to bracket because the DR is extreme (extreme as in +2/-2EV AEB does not cover it)
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Steve Balcombe
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Hi Brian.
I'm planning to buy an 80D to use alongside my 7D2 - they have different strengths and I think they will complement each other superbly for my usage, which has a lot in common with yours I think. If I could only have one it would be a very tough choice but I'd have to stick with the 7D2. The 80D's new AF system looks superb but the 7D2 is still ahead, with more AF points and more sophisticated tracking. The 7D2 body also handles better than the XXD's, which is very important for wildlife, especially birds. 10 fps is very useful too!
Points against the 7D2 are the lack of a swivel/touch screen, and lack of wifi, but if you're not bothered by any of those then that's what I'd go for. And as you point out, at current pricing there is not much difference which makes the 7D2 a bargain.
Brian Wadie
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Perhaps some 3rd party lenses as well.
You're not implying they have an agenda or anything are you?Yeah DPR seems impressed with this camera. And that doesn't happen often these days with Canon cameras.
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aftab
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I am not an expert in any of these. But I read Bob's comments and this is what I understood.
70D here is very different. 760D, 80D and 1D XII are more similar, obvious difference between them is the size of the blue border (masking area) surrounding the pixel array, this is much larger in 80D and 1D XII. Look at 1D XII, inside or within the blue border at the top and bottom left (your left hand side), there are black structures. According to Bob those are likely to be termination of a bus suggesting column parallel ADC. You can see the similar structures (although finer) in 80D too, but not in 760D.
These are all speculations of course, but 760D doesn't appear quite the same as 80D or 1D XII.
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I think they are a bit nerdy.You're not implying they have an agenda or anything are you?Yeah DPR seems impressed with this camera. And that doesn't happen often these days with Canon cameras.
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And maybe they are now more aware of the fact that there have been allegations of anti-Canon bias among some DPR staffs.
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