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Will FE lenses work in the new a6300
 
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Will FE lenses work in the new a6300
They will be big, heavy, and expensive, but they'll work. Maybe even better than ASP/C lenses.

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And no OSS
Not all the FE lenses are big, and one has OSS ...
But all FE lenses are bigger than they need to be for APS-C.

On the other hand you can reuse them if you upgrade to FE.
And get used to the different fov.

A bit like a micmac graveyard, they'll be back; you know, but perhaps not entirely as the ones you loved.
 
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And no OSS
Not all the FE lenses are big, and one has OSS ...
One? No less than eight FE lenses have OSS, and "coincidentally" there's significant overlap between those that do and the ones most likely to be useful on APS-C bodies - the 70-200mm lenses, 24-240mm and the 90mm macro...

The only FE lens I can think of that would be nice on crop body and doesn't have OSS is the new 85mm... and, well, given the price of that thing, and the fact that it's probably mostly be going to be used in studio, on tripod, with strobes, it's not exactly a huge loss either.
 
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So much misinformation early in this thread. So many people ready to jump on the "Oh they're so big..."

Yes they will work. They are all E mount.

No they aren't all bigger and heavier.

No they aren't bigger and heavier than they need to be.

Yes they don't all have OSS. OSS is not life or death. It really only comes into play at long focal lengths and low light conditions.

35mm is 35mm full frame or crop. On a crop sensor, a 35mm will have the equivalent field of view as a 52.5mm on a full frame sensor. Both the FE and E 35mm (even though it won't cover the whole sensor) will have a 35mm field of view on full frame. Unless you have shot 35mm film or a full frame digital for years and are used to "standard" focal lengths, this make no difference and isn't really worth worrying about the "perceived fov full frame equivalent."

APS-C has the advantage of being able to use all of the e-mount lenses to cover a variety focal lengths.

For what it's worth, I have a handful of manual primes. My one E mount prime is the FE28f2. I find the focal length more interesting than the 35mm. My next prime will probably be the FE55f1.8 for the same reason. I find 50mm standard a little boring as well.

Try not to get stuck on the technical performance and test chart ratings of lenses. There is way more to a photograph than sharpness.

Cheers.
 
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No they aren't bigger and heavier than they need to be.
Of course a FF lens is bigger than it needs to be to cover a APS-C sensor.

The FF lens will "waste" some light and project it somewhere in the mount and not the sensor of the APS-C body because it projects a bigger image circle than is needed for an APS-C sensor.

It's not hard to imagine that a lens that only has to cover the smaller APS-C image circle can be designed smaller than one that covers the FF image circle.

Of course the image circle is not everything and lots of factors play a role in the lens size and weight.
 
Will FE lenses work in the new a6300
They will be big, heavy, and expensive, but they'll work. Maybe even better than ASP/C lenses.

--
Buy books, not gear.
Tacoma, Washington, USA
And no OSS
Not all the FE lenses are big, and one has OSS ...
But all FE lenses are bigger than they need to be for APS-C.

On the other hand you can reuse them if you upgrade to FE.
The Sony FE 35 is a little smaller than the E 35 ...

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The FE 35mm is f2.8 and will stay f2.8 on a APS-C body.

The E 35mm is f1.8 and is stabilized.

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What will be field of view?? Will it still be 35mm or will it be 52.5 mm ??
The FOV will always be the same for any 35 lens on an APS-C camera. A 35 is a 35 on a crop, same as a 35 is a 35 on a FF -- it is the crop that changes, not the lens.
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What I mean by field of view is angle of view, if that's any clearer? You know what I mean - a more telephoto view by 1,5 since the sensor is smaller. Not as many buildings on the sides will fit wit the same 35mm lens on an A6k as on an A7. The lens doesn't change any and noone said it did - but the view you get from it changes if you are on a crop sensor as opposed to a full frame sensor. A 28mm is a moderate wide angle on full frame, not as wide on crop etc. I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say. If field of view is angle of view then that changes between crop and full frame with the same lens, yet "35mm is always 35mm" - yeah, but what significance has that?
FOV will be the same too on a APS-C body.
No, since the sensor is smaller the imaging square is smaller within the circle the lens can draw.

http://improvephotography.com/8411/field-of-view-full-frame-crop-sensor-dslr/

Edit. I was (quite clearly) writing about the same lens on two different sensor sizes, so if "FOV will be the same too on a APS-C body" means the fov of an FF and an APS-C lens on the same APS-C body then yes, if on the other hand it meant "..the same too on a APS-C body as an FF body" then no.
 
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And no OSS
Not all the FE lenses are big, and one has OSS ...
One? No less than eight FE lenses have OSS, and "coincidentally" there's significant overlap between those that do and the ones most likely to be useful on APS-C bodies - the 70-200mm lenses, 24-240mm and the 90mm macro...

The only FE lens I can think of that would be nice on crop body and doesn't have OSS is the new 85mm... and, well, given the price of that thing, and the fact that it's probably mostly be going to be used in studio, on tripod, with strobes, it's not exactly a huge loss either.
Thanks for the correction -- i clearly wasn't paying attention. I should have said 'not all the FE lenses are big, and many have OSS ..."



Cheers,
GB
 
Will FE lenses work in the new a6300
They will be big, heavy, and expensive, but they'll work. Maybe even better than ASP/C lenses.

--
Buy books, not gear.
Tacoma, Washington, USA
And no OSS
Not all the FE lenses are big, and one has OSS ...
But all FE lenses are bigger than they need to be for APS-C.

On the other hand you can reuse them if you upgrade to FE.
The Sony FE 35 is a little smaller than the E 35 ...

--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/geoffbaker/sets/72157632181672263/
The FE 35mm is f2.8 and will stay f2.8 on a APS-C body.

The E 35mm is f1.8 and is stabilized.

...
What will be field of view?? Will it still be 35mm or will it be 52.5 mm ??
The FOV will always be the same for any 35 lens on an APS-C camera. A 35 is a 35 on a crop, same as a 35 is a 35 on a FF -- it is the crop that changes, not the lens.
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What I mean by field of view is angle of view, if that's any clearer? You know what I mean - a more telephoto view by 1,5 since the sensor is smaller. Not as many buildings on the sides will fit wit the same 35mm lens on an A6k as on an A7. The lens doesn't change any and noone said it did - but the view you get from it changes if you are on a crop sensor as opposed to a full frame sensor. A 28mm is a moderate wide angle on full frame, not as wide on crop etc. I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say. If field of view is angle of view then that changes between crop and full frame with the same lens, yet "35mm is always 35mm" - yeah, but what significance has that?
The significance in this discussion is this: A 35mm FE lens has exactly the same FOV or angle of view as a 35mm E lens when used on a crop body. You seem confused, and angry -- but my point is relevant, clear and significant. There is no special 35mm lens that gives a different angle of view when used on a crop body -- all 35mm lenses (all ANY focal length lens) behave the same way ... it is the crop that makes a difference, not something special in the lens design.

So in this thread, when someone asks 'will this 35mm lens behave differently on my crop camera than some other 35mm lens" the answer is "no, a 35mm is always a 35mm".
Cheers,
GB
Yes, but if someone says "but with FE lenses there's an upgrade path" then I'd like to caution, which I did in my first comment, that the same lens will give a different view on FF from APS-C. I suppose I was a bit confused (although not angry : ) ) and related the "What will be field of view??" question to that - the same lens on APS-C and FF, rather then a lens designed for FF and a lens designed for APS-C on the same camera.
 

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