There is no disagreement here, because that's precisely what I wrote in the statement that follows the one you selectively quoted.
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No IBIS for X series
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I tried X mount like a few things about it (colour tones etc)
The lack of IBIS is a huge downer for users like myself using A mount with IBIS, every lens even vintage Minolta stuff is stabilised including primes, third party lenses etc.
I went back to A mount and couldn't be happier not quite as nice colours but the lenses have much better bokeh and I can wipe out the ISO disadvantage with IBIS easily
Large selection of affordable AF lenses can't really see the attraction with Fuji, plus I have wireless flash and HSS already even on my film bodies ;-0
No IBIS then not interested
The lack of IBIS is a huge downer for users like myself using A mount with IBIS, every lens even vintage Minolta stuff is stabilised including primes, third party lenses etc.
I went back to A mount and couldn't be happier not quite as nice colours but the lenses have much better bokeh and I can wipe out the ISO disadvantage with IBIS easily
Large selection of affordable AF lenses can't really see the attraction with Fuji, plus I have wireless flash and HSS already even on my film bodies ;-0
No IBIS then not interested
JS Burnie
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+1 
Well, we'll see who can and who can't.
Well, we'll see who can and who can't.DarnGoodPhotos
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Then I misinterpreted your post. Sorry.
Jim in Hudson
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I've never seen any such statement making that claim. Can you provide some links? I can't imagine Panasonic has starting putting IBIS on a couple models with the knowledge IQ will decrease.
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What makes Panasonic or is is Olympus micro four thirds if I understand that can do IBIS, or at least I thought it could and it is a smaller sensor etc..
What could be the difference ??
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Chris Dodkin
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Take some time to read the article and then do some research, rather than pointing the finger and claiming people are lying.
When you understand what they are saying - you'll understand why IBIS isn't possible on the X-Mount, because it was never designed to accommodate the sensor displacement.
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Jerry-astro
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Did you follow the link to the interview? I think your question is adequately answered in there.
Interesting to me how much whining there is here about this issue. While IBIS seems to be a very useful feature, it's far from a deal killer to me. There's so much to what makes a system attractive or not and this is but one small feature, and one that I've somehow managed to live without for many years. Given the amazing lineup of lenses that Fuji offers and their strong emphasis on IQ (plus the fact that I personally could care less about supporting legacy lenses from other vendors), this seems like sort of a non issue. I can certainly see where others might see this differently, depending on their priorities and desire to support non Fuji lenses.
ShutterNot
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Not everybody is cut out to be a FUJI user.
slimandy
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Why are you even here then??
Then you just need to look more carefully ;-)
Why not, e.g., if it otherwise allows images to be snapped that couldn't have been snapped before.
But more to the point, lens manufacturers have always maintained that IS can be tailored to a specific lens and be made more efficient and with less of an effect on IQ than a general in-body mechanism. Cynics have always countered that these lens manufacturers keep making these claims because a big part of their profit comes from selling stabilized lenses. However that may be, it is also the case that focusing and metering are more accurate with in-lens stabilization, because the image is already stabilized when it hits the sensor.
But even more importantly, IBIS relies on moving the sensor. The larger the sensor, the beefier the motors required to move it. The more energy required to move the sensor, the higher the heat output. The higher the heat, the noisier the images. In-lens IS doesn't suffer from that issue. To be fair, this problem affects video more so than still photography. For still photography, one would have to remember to not constantly run IBIS but only when a shot is taken, but video nowadays is a large aspect of consumer cameras, so IBIS must work for that application as well.
To make IBIS really useful, manufacturers still need to find ways to move APS-C sized sensors without producing excess heat. M43 has less of a problem here, of course, because the sensors are smaller.
This, to me, is a real shame. I've been seriously considering switching to Fuji from my Olympus kit for awhile now. Mostly to get higher IQ and better high ISO performance without having to go to Sony. Now it looks like I may have to skip over Fuji (again). My reasoning for this? With IBIS, my Olympus kit can basically eliminate any high ISO advantage the Fuji system offers over it. IBIS is that effective, and before people say just get a tripod the kind of work I do is too fast paced/chaotic to have the luxury for a tripod. Which sadly means I can't justify switching to them.
I guess I was just holding out some hope that Fuji would add IBIS to their system. Seeing as Panasonic, Olympus, Pentax, and Sony all have. That is quite honestly the only major feature I see lacking from current Fuji cameras.
Just to make things clear, I'm not hating on Fuji in any way. I've loved every camera of theirs that I've used and have tried several times to justify buying into their system.
TL;DR: Due to Olympus having IBIS, and FUji lacking it and OS in a good amount of lenses (looking at you 16-55) the low-light/high ISO advantage of Fuji is basically nil.
I guess I was just holding out some hope that Fuji would add IBIS to their system. Seeing as Panasonic, Olympus, Pentax, and Sony all have. That is quite honestly the only major feature I see lacking from current Fuji cameras.
Just to make things clear, I'm not hating on Fuji in any way. I've loved every camera of theirs that I've used and have tried several times to justify buying into their system.
TL;DR: Due to Olympus having IBIS, and FUji lacking it and OS in a good amount of lenses (looking at you 16-55) the low-light/high ISO advantage of Fuji is basically nil.
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Higher ISO ability lets you increase the shutter speed. This is good for reducing subject blur that IS will not solve.
Ap0ll0n
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I would hate sacrificing even a mm of compactness, both for the lens or camera body, so given this update, I'm all for no IBIS. Now, if only they could make an XT-2 the size of an XT-10 or come out with a WR XE-3..
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Tim C.
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An IBIS sensor would soooo help me freeze action.
A fast shutter speed will freeze action.
IBIS is for stabilizing your own tremors.
Camera stabilization and subject motion blur are two completely different aspects of photography.
Jim in Hudson
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I doubt even one of us here bought our Fujifilm X-mount camera for its video capability so to think Fujifilm doesn't like IBIS because of video doesn't make any sense. Instead, it's all about Fujifilm not designing X-mount lenses with image circles large enough to cover a shifted sensor.
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