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Hello everyone,

This is my first post here, although I have been reading threads occasionally the past few years.

My first few cameras were superzooms because of the range and affordability. I mostly take pictures of (nature) landscapes and wildlife (mostly birds, but basically whatever I encounter ;) ) and occasionally macro (mostly flowers and insects). Due to limited spare time outside of holidays (and lack of proper nature in my immediate surroundings ;) ), I currently only shoot on vacations. But I hope to move to an area with more nature in about 5 years and also have more spare time by then. And this is why buying an ILC (particularly a MILC) appeals to me: I would be able to invest in a few lenses and upgrade to a new body in about 4 years rather cheaply and keep the lenses. Apart from that a MILC would of course also offer higher IQ than an advanced compact because of the larger sensor and dedicated lenses for each purpose (instead of a big compromise, like in compact cameras).

I currently own an Olympus XZ-1 which I bought almost 2 years ago, to replace my Olympus SZ-10 superzoom camera which performed poorly in low light. I had decided back then that I would settle for a camera with less focal range, so I could have better low light performance and better general IQ (there was no TZ100/FZ1000/RX10-esque camera available back then in my price range of about 200 euro). The rationale behind this was, that no matter how much focal range my camera would have, there would always be that next object that would be just too far away. I would simply have to accept that I can't capture everything. So I purchased my current XZ-1 with a maximum focal range of 112 mm (compared to the about 500 mm of the SZ-10). Besides the SZ-10's image quality (lots of smearing of fine detail, this was especially evident when taking pictures of landscapes including pine trees ;) ) was horrible on a cloudy winter day already, so I was already giving up a lot for the extreme tele range.

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A great demonstration of smearing of fine detail with the SZ-10

I am generally very pleased with my XZ-1. The lens is excellent IMO and because it so fast, I can almost always keep the ISO at the base value of 100 outdoors at day (this mostly compensates for the dated image sensor). I have taken some great photos with it and I although I still miss a bit more focal range at the tele end, I no longer crave for extreme tele like 400-600 mm. But in the evening and indoors the very dated sensor in the XZ-1 starts to show its age as I have to increase the ISO. Therefore I am looking at a replacement. Ideally that replacement would have a bit more focal range at the tele end (I guestimate 200 mm would be about right), and even better low light performance courtesy of a more modern (and preferably also a bit larger) sensor. I am satisfied with the controls/interface and size of the XZ-1, but that doesn't mean I'm not open to change regarding that!

I have recently written a program that scans my images and generates statistics regarding the frequencies of my use of focal lengths. It uses the Plotly graphing service to generate plots of the data. I have let it scan all of my typical images taken with the XZ-1. The result can be found here:

Focal length frequency plot

I did this to avoid overestimating the use of certain focal lengths and have an objective way to look at how I use my camera's focal range.

As you can see there is a very large peak at 112 mm, my XZ-1's maximum focal length. This suggests that I often would like a bit more focal range at the tele end and therefore my guestimate of about 200 mm.

I am currently torn between finally switching to a (M)ILC, that would amount to buying a Panasonic GM1/5 or GF7 and buying a 45-150 mm tele lens later on. Or staying with the advanced P&S/compact category. The Panasonic TZ100 particularly appeals to me (before the SZ-10 I owned a FZ-8) because of its 1" sensor and 250 mm range which seems perfect to me. But at the current price I would have to save up quite a bit more and when it needs replacing in 4 or 5 years, I would be left with no lenses and have to buy a complete new camera. I also just discovered the Canon G16, but its 140 mm maximum focal length is only a small upgrade and the sensor although more modern is the same size as my XZ-1's. The Sony RX100 series just don't have enough range at the tele end. And neither do most of its competitors like the Panasonic LX series. The Sony RX10 is out of budget and probably too large anyway.

My objections against MILCs are having to switch lenses and the vulnerability of the sensor when doing so. I'm afraid switching lenses will take too much time and hastily switching them might result in me dropping one of them (as I am a bit clumsy ;) ). The possibility of getting dust or moist on the sensor also doesn't appeal to me... I haven't been able to find a proper video of how much effort and time switching lenses takes with M4/3 cameras.

Does anyone with similar concerns/(who has been) in a similar position any advice?
 
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I have an SZ-10 as well. I tried a to find a similarly gloomy landscape shot where I had it compared to my Canon G1X MkII - see the two images below. Not the best conditions as there was a slight drizzle, but this will do for a comparison. If you look at the detail in the trees at 100% scale (click on 'original size' below the image), you'll see that a current large-sensor compact can easily capture more detail.

Where the large 1.5" sensor of the G1X MkII really shines, is in high ISO images. If you shoot RAW and apply noise reduction, relatively clean high-ISO images are possible - not noise-free, but entirely usable. I attach an ISO 6400 image as example.

Canon's 1"-sensor compacts are pretty close in image quality to the G1X MkII so I'm pretty certain that the Panasonic TZ100, using the same Sony 1" sensor, will be a very capable camera if the lens lives up to expectations.

All that said, an ILC with µ4/3 or APS-C sensor will be another step higher in performance.

I can't help you with learning not to be clumsy about changing lenses, but on the sensor dust, be aware that it happens also with compacts. The zooming of the lens sucks air into the camera. Also, I've had Olympus DSLR's for many years now and never had any dust problem - the Olympus anti-dust technology is recognized as being the very best there is. I have little doubt that if you went for an Olympus µ4/3 MILC, you'd have little or no problems with dust.

Olympus SZ-10 image.
Olympus SZ-10 image.

Canon G1X MkII image
Canon G1X MkII image

Canon G1X MkII at ISO 6400, from RAW.
Canon G1X MkII at ISO 6400, from RAW.

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This is the second thread I've read today that seems concerned about messing up the sensor. I've never heard of this as a reason not to get mirrorless before today, it's so strange to me.

Anyway, if some dust gets on the sensor you can have it professionally cleaned or buy the tools to clean it yourself. I have a Sony a6000 and before that the NEX-6. I've never really timed myself changing lenses, but I think it probably takes about ten seconds. You push a button and twist off the lens, then cap it, then uncap the new lens and twist it on until it clicks. If you have a good camera bag then this shouldn't be a problem even outdoors. I do it while walking or wrestling kids half the time...though I don't recommend that. I think I've had more problems with putting the caps on water bottles than I've had with changing lenses.

As for the camera, it sounds like you've been happy with Olympus and would probably really enjoy the added flexibility of m4/3s. If you feel you really need exceptional low light abilities, you'll have to take another step up to APS-C, and Sony would be a great one to look at. Since the a6300 was just announced the current model will have some great deals and be an amazing bargain.
 
Of course zoom lenses will cut down on the need to change lenses. The 14-140/150 lenses for M4/3 cameras work pretty well, as super zoom lenses go. That is 28-280/300mm in the old SLR terms. Not as cheap as a kit lens of course.

Shooting around town I can predict which lens is best, not lug along a bunch of lenses, nor change lenses very often. Plus I take my time when changing lenses (just hate to drop the buggers).

Vacations are a different story. I have no idea what I'm going to run into next, or which lens will be best. So my game plan there is to rent a 2nd body. Now I am carrying 2 cameras with 2 different lenses. This really does cut down on the need to change lenses. And M4/3 bodies are small enough that I can carry 2 M4/3 cameras in a bag that fits only 1 DSLR. Vacation bliss!

Kelly Cook
 
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I am currently torn between finally switching to a (M)ILC, that would amount to buying a Panasonic GM1/5 or GF7 and buying a 45-150 mm tele lens later on. Or staying with the advanced P&S/compact category. The Panasonic TZ100 particularly appeals to me (before the SZ-10 I owned a FZ-8) because of its 1" sensor and 250 mm range which seems perfect to me. But at the current price I would have to save up quite a bit more and when it needs replacing in 4 or 5 years, I would be left with no lenses and have to buy a complete new camera. I also just discovered the Canon G16, but its 140 mm maximum focal length is only a small upgrade and the sensor although more modern is the same size as my XZ-1's. The Sony RX100 series just don't have enough range at the tele end. And neither do most of its competitors like the Panasonic LX series. The Sony RX10 is out of budget and probably too large anyway.
I followed a similar route, going from superzoom cameras (Panasonic FZ20, FZ30 and FZ7) to a high end compact camera (Panasonic LX2) and a travel zoom camera (Panasonic TZ5). Then I moved up to four thirds DSLRs (E510 and E30) one APSC DSLT (Sony A55) and now am exclusively using M4/3 MILC cameras (EM5 and GM1).

It's really not that complicated. Superzooms and travel zooms are great for zoom range, but they lack image quality and low light performance. High end compacts with small sensors are nice, but can be disappointing. DSLRs are nice, but bigger and heavier. I found the M4/3 system the best compromise for me, providing very good image quality in a relatively small package.
My objections against MILCs are having to switch lenses and the vulnerability of the sensor when doing so.
No matter how careful you are, eventually your sensor will need cleaning. The built in dustbuster does a pretty good job, but sometimes moisture can get in, leaving spots. This is just a fact of life, but fortunately it isn't hard to clean a sensor, and you don't have to do it very often. But it is something to think about for any camera with changeable lenses. Incidentally, even fixed lens cameras can get dust on their sensors. And those are almost impossible and very costly to clean. It won't happen as often as it will with ILCs but it still does happen.
I'm afraid switching lenses will take too much time and hastily switching them might result in me dropping one of them (as I am a bit clumsy ;) ). The possibility of getting dust or moist on the sensor also doesn't appeal to me... I haven't been able to find a proper video of how much effort and time switching lenses takes with M4/3 cameras.
It is very easy to change lenses, and it takes just a second or two with some practice. The biggest problem might be that you could drop a lens if you aren't careful. It is wise to not swap lenses when it is windy or under very humid conditions.
Does anyone with similar concerns/(who has been) in a similar position any advice?
My advice is that if you really worry about changing lenses, you might want to consider the Panasonic LX100. This is pretty much like your XZ1, but with a sensor five times larger. The improvement in image quality will be startling. But these are fairly expensive selling for around $600 or so.

I use a GM1, and I love it. I still don't believe it is as small as it is, because it takes such great photos. If you get a GM1 or GM5, then consider the 35-100mm f/4-5.6 as your second lens. It was designed expressly for the smaller GM series, and has gotten rave reviews.

You may discover that you won't have to switch lenses so often. I use the 12-32mm lens almost exclusively, switching to a longer lens only for portraits or for anything far away. The 12-32mm has more range than you would think it does, because you can crop quite a bit with a sensor so much larger than your XZ1 has.

Switching lenses can be a concern, but you shouldn't be afraid to do it. You now have the advantage of using lots of specialty lenses (wide angle, fast primes, macro lenses, telephoto lenses, etc) that will do better than any fixed lens camera could do. For taking photos of the moon, I use my 75-300mm lens at 300mm!

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Here are some sample shots I took with my GM1 to give you an idea.





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Hello everyone,

Thanks a lot for replying. Before I saw your replies I had been doing some further thinking about this. And another option would be to buy a 1" or larger compact camera with a lot of MP (like the Sony RX100) and crop the images to obtain more tele range. I have read that the RX100 I and II have a maximum focal length of 100 mm and that they even provide an in-camera option for cropping to provide more zoom. The RX100 I and II seem to have an "extended optical zoom" option that allows you to set the image size to either 10 MP (the same as my XZ-1, so you can see while this appeals to me) and 5 MP. Half the resolution means the square root of 2 times the maximum focal length, so this would give the RX100 a maximum focal length of about 141 mm. That would be acceptable, if the lens of the RX100 is able to maintain the resolution with extended optical zoom of my XZ-1 without cropping. Another option would be to buy a second camera alongside the RX100 specially for the tele end. I wouldn't want another superzoom (I should've mentioned that I no longer own the SZ-10, I sold it to partially fund the purchase of my XZ-1), so I'd need something with similar IQ to the RX100, so about the same sensor size and a specialty lens for the tele end: then it hit me: a Nikon J1/2 + the 30-110 mm lens would be perfect. The Nikon 1s also have a 1" inch sensor, the J1 and J2 have the same amount op MP as my XZ-1 (I should note that I am satisfied with this amount of pixels), they're pretty cheap now and they're compact enough. This would mean I wouldn't have to switch lenses because I would carry both the RX100 and the Nikon 1 with its 30-110 mm lens attached permanently. This would still be about 100 euro more expensive than buying a GM1 + 45-150 mm, but I wouldn't have to switch lenses. And the lenses would still be pretty specialised. The down side of this would of course be, as I mentioned earlier, that in about 5 years or so I would have to replace about 700 euro worth of cameras as I would have to replace the RX100 and a Nikon J1/2 would be *very* dated by then and on top of that the future of Nikon 1 is uncertain so I'd probably just have to replace the whole Nikon 1 kit too. I have limited funds in the near future (I'm a student ;) ) and I would like to use those to invest in a camera system, so I would in a worst case scenario only have to replace the body in 5 years, especially because I would also like to have proper gear for when I move by then. Another downside of buying a RX100 is that to use the extended optical zoom feature you have to shoot JPEG, while in fact I was just about to try switching to RAW. Of course I could still crop in post-processing, but that would make it more difficult and time-consuming.

But again, this was all before I read your posts. Mark9473 I find it amazing that you have a SZ-10 too and actually took the same picture with both :) So thanks a lot for the effort of digging these up! I am aware of the IQ difference between 'normal' 1/2.3 inch compacts and larger sensor cameras and that is one of the reasons I am looking for an upgrade to my XZ-1. I have read the RX100's 1" sensor has very similar performance to the G1X MkII due its more modern sensor. I'm not sure if the difference increases as you increase the ISO value.

Mark9473 wrote:
Of course zoom lenses will cut down on the need to change lenses. The 14-140/150 lenses for M4/3 cameras work pretty well, as super zoom lenses go. That is 28-280/300mm in the old SLR terms. Not as cheap as a kit lens of course.

Shooting around town I can predict which lens is best, not lug along a bunch of lenses, nor change lenses very often. Plus I take my time when changing lenses (just hate to drop the buggers).

Vacations are a different story. I have no idea what I'm going to run into next, or which lens will be best. So my game plan there is to rent a 2nd body. Now I am carrying 2 cameras with 2 different lenses. This really does cut down on the need to change lenses. And M4/3 bodies are small enough that I can carry 2 M4/3 cameras in a bag that fits only 1 DSLR. Vacation bliss!

Kelly Cook
Yes, a 2nd M4/3 body appeals to me as well, but I'm afraid a 2nd GM1 will be too expensive. But of course as new bodies are released the price of a M4/3 body with either EFCS or an electronic shutter might drop.
Jurre van Wouw, post: 57237288, member: 303826"]
I am currently torn between finally switching to a (M)ILC, that would amount to buying a Panasonic GM1/5 or GF7 and buying a 45-150 mm tele lens later on. Or staying with the advanced P&S/compact category. The Panasonic TZ100 particularly appeals to me (before the SZ-10 I owned a FZ-8) because of its 1" sensor and 250 mm range which seems perfect to me. But at the current price I would have to save up quite a bit more and when it needs replacing in 4 or 5 years, I would be left with no lenses and have to buy a complete new camera. I also just discovered the Canon G16, but its 140 mm maximum focal length is only a small upgrade and the sensor although more modern is the same size as my XZ-1's. The Sony RX100 series just don't have enough range at the tele end. And neither do most of its competitors like the Panasonic LX series. The Sony RX10 is out of budget and probably too large anyway.
I followed a similar route, going from superzoom cameras (Panasonic FZ20, FZ30 and FZ7) to a high end compact camera (Panasonic LX2) and a travel zoom camera (Panasonic TZ5). Then I moved up to four thirds DSLRs (E510 and E30) one APSC DSLT (Sony A55) and now am exclusively using M4/3 MILC cameras (EM5 and GM1).

It's really not that complicated. Superzooms and travel zooms are great for zoom range, but they lack image quality and low light performance. High end compacts with small sensors are nice, but can be disappointing. DSLRs are nice, but bigger and heavier. I found the M4/3 system the best compromise for me, providing very good image quality in a relatively small package.
My objections against MILCs are having to switch lenses and the vulnerability of the sensor when doing so.
No matter how careful you are, eventually your sensor will need cleaning. The built in dustbuster does a pretty good job, but sometimes moisture can get in, leaving spots. This is just a fact of life, but fortunately it isn't hard to clean a sensor, and you don't have to do it very often. But it is something to think about for any camera with changeable lenses. Incidentally, even fixed lens cameras can get dust on their sensors. And those are almost impossible and very costly to clean. It won't happen as often as it will with ILCs but it still does happen.
I'm afraid switching lenses will take too much time and hastily switching them might result in me dropping one of them (as I am a bit clumsy ;) ). The possibility of getting dust or moist on the sensor also doesn't appeal to me... I haven't been able to find a proper video of how much effort and time switching lenses takes with M4/3 cameras.
It is very easy to change lenses, and it takes just a second or two with some practice. The biggest problem might be that you could drop a lens if you aren't careful. It is wise to not swap lenses when it is windy or under very humid conditions.
Does anyone with similar concerns/(who has been) in a similar position any advice?
My advice is that if you really worry about changing lenses, you might want to consider the Panasonic LX100. This is pretty much like your XZ1, but with a sensor five times larger. The improvement in image quality will be startling. But these are fairly expensive selling for around $600 or so.
Yes, I'm aware of the LX100, it was tested in one of DPR's shootouts too, IIRC? It sure is a nice camera, but its maximum focal length just is too small and the resolution of its sensor doesn't provide enough room for cropping either. Furthermore its price is too high for it to be complemented by a 2nd camera with more range at the tele end.
I use a GM1, and I love it. I still don't believe it is as small as it is, because it takes such great photos. If you get a GM1 or GM5, then consider the 35-100mm f/4-5.6 as your second lens. It was designed expressly for the smaller GM series, and has gotten rave reviews.

You may discover that you won't have to switch lenses so often. I use the 12-32mm lens almost exclusively, switching to a longer lens only for portraits or for anything far away. The 12-32mm has more range than you would think it does, because you can crop quite a bit with a sensor so much larger than your XZ1 has.

Switching lenses can be a concern, but you shouldn't be afraid to do it. You now have the advantage of using lots of specialty lenses (wide angle, fast primes, macro lenses, telephoto lenses, etc) that will do better than any fixed lens camera could do. For taking photos of the moon, I use my 75-300mm lens at 300mm!

15470290712_23c6803573_b.jpg


Here are some sample shots I took with my GM1 to give you an idea.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/marty4650/sets/72157606210120132/show/
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First of all that's a great moon shot! I tried capturing the moon once with my XZ-1, but it just was too bright and too far away, and I really should buy a tripod too...

I'm aware of the 35-100 mm, but it's 70 euro more expensive than the 45-150 mm and has less range at the tele end. I should also mention that I'm planning on selling the 12-32 mm that comes with the GM(1/5)/GF7 kit and replacing it with a Panasonic 14-42 mm II, because of the apparently poor build quality of the 12-32, so I wouldn't be missing the 32-42 mm range either when buying the 45-150 mm.



Again thanks all for your detailed replies! :) Could someone create a short video of a routine lens switch with a M4/3 camera for me? Preferably involving similar lenses I would buy. ;)
 
I use a GM1, and I love it. I still don't believe it is as small as it is, because it takes such great photos. If you get a GM1 or GM5, then consider the 35-100mm f/4-5.6 as your second lens. It was designed expressly for the smaller GM series, and has gotten rave reviews.

You may discover that you won't have to switch lenses so often. I use the 12-32mm lens almost exclusively, switching to a longer lens only for portraits or for anything far away. The 12-32mm has more range than you would think it does, because you can crop quite a bit with a sensor so much larger than your XZ1 has.

Switching lenses can be a concern, but you shouldn't be afraid to do it. You now have the advantage of using lots of specialty lenses (wide angle, fast primes, macro lenses, telephoto lenses, etc) that will do better than any fixed lens camera could do. For taking photos of the moon, I use my 75-300mm lens at 300mm!

15470290712_23c6803573_b.jpg


Here are some sample shots I took with my GM1 to give you an idea.
First of all that's a great moon shot! I tried capturing the moon once with my XZ-1, but it just was too bright and too far away, and I really should buy a tripod too...
That photo was taken hand held. No tripod used. It probably would have benefited from a tripod, because that is the best form of stabilization you can use. Even if inconvenient.

The trick to "shooting the moon" is to set your white balance on "daylight" and use spot metering. Also, a fast shutter speed is helpful, because the moon is actually in motion, and clouds are drifting into the scene from time to time.
I'm aware of the 35-100 mm, but it's 70 euro more expensive than the 45-150 mm and has less range at the tele end. I should also mention that I'm planning on selling the 12-32 mm that comes with the GM(1/5)/GF7 kit and replacing it with a Panasonic 14-42 mm II, because of the apparently poor build quality of the 12-32, so I wouldn't be missing the 32-42 mm range either when buying the 45-150 mm.
Before you sell your 12-32mm lens, you need to try it for a while. This is really a very nice lens, and is sharper than the 14-42mm lens. And it is absolutely tiny, and works well with a GM camera. I think you might find that the extra width (the 12mm end) is a huge advantage over any lens that starts at 14mm. Less range at the top end shouldn't be a problem because you can crop a lot more than you could with your XZ-1.

The same applies to the 35-100mm lens, which is another lens designed with the GM series in mind. It costs more, because it is worth more (check the selling prices for both in used condition) and if you pair those two lenses there will be a significantly smaller \ gap in the 32 to 42mm range. From 10mm down to 3mm, which is generally insignificant.

Here's a video review of the 12-32mm lens by David Thorpe that you might find useful.
Again thanks all for your detailed replies! :) Could someone create a short video of a routine lens switch with a M4/3 camera for me? Preferably involving similar lenses I would buy. ;)
During the first minute of this lens review video, you can see two lens swaps. I don't think anyone has made a video specifically for "lens swapping on M4/3" since the process is so simple and intuitive.

Incidentally, one more feature you might like is the panasonic image app . If you have a smart phone you can use this app to control your camera remotely, change settings, and fire the shutter. Of course it also uploads photos wirelessly if you want to do that, but I just love having such a great wireless remote control.

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I use a GM1, and I love it. I still don't believe it is as small as it is, because it takes such great photos. If you get a GM1 or GM5, then consider the 35-100mm f/4-5.6 as your second lens. It was designed expressly for the smaller GM series, and has gotten rave reviews.

You may discover that you won't have to switch lenses so often. I use the 12-32mm lens almost exclusively, switching to a longer lens only for portraits or for anything far away. The 12-32mm has more range than you would think it does, because you can crop quite a bit with a sensor so much larger than your XZ1 has.

Switching lenses can be a concern, but you shouldn't be afraid to do it. You now have the advantage of using lots of specialty lenses (wide angle, fast primes, macro lenses, telephoto lenses, etc) that will do better than any fixed lens camera could do. For taking photos of the moon, I use my 75-300mm lens at 300mm!

15470290712_23c6803573_b.jpg


Here are some sample shots I took with my GM1 to give you an idea.
First of all that's a great moon shot! I tried capturing the moon once with my XZ-1, but it just was too bright and too far away, and I really should buy a tripod too...
That photo was taken hand held. No tripod used. It probably would have benefited from a tripod, because that is the best form of stabilization you can use. Even if inconvenient.

The trick to "shooting the moon" is to set your white balance on "daylight" and use spot metering. Also, a fast shutter speed is helpful, because the moon is actually in motion, and clouds are drifting into the scene from time to time.
I'm aware of the 35-100 mm, but it's 70 euro more expensive than the 45-150 mm and has less range at the tele end. I should also mention that I'm planning on selling the 12-32 mm that comes with the GM(1/5)/GF7 kit and replacing it with a Panasonic 14-42 mm II, because of the apparently poor build quality of the 12-32, so I wouldn't be missing the 32-42 mm range either when buying the 45-150 mm.
Before you sell your 12-32mm lens, you need to try it for a while. This is really a very nice lens, and is sharper than the 14-42mm lens. And it is absolutely tiny, and works well with a GM camera. I think you might find that the extra width (the 12mm end) is a huge advantage over any lens that starts at 14mm. Less range at the top end shouldn't be a problem because you can crop a lot more than you could with your XZ-1.

The same applies to the 35-100mm lens, which is another lens designed with the GM series in mind. It costs more, because it is worth more (check the selling prices for both in used condition) and if you pair those two lenses there will be a significantly smaller \ gap in the 32 to 42mm range. From 10mm down to 3mm, which is generally insignificant.

Here's a video review of the 12-32mm lens by David Thorpe that you might find useful.
Again thanks all for your detailed replies! :) Could someone create a short video of a routine lens switch with a M4/3 camera for me? Preferably involving similar lenses I would buy. ;)
During the first minute of this lens review video, you can see two lens swaps. I don't think anyone has made a video specifically for "lens swapping on M4/3" since the process is so simple and intuitive.

Incidentally, one more feature you might like is the panasonic image app . If you have a smart phone you can use this app to control your camera remotely, change settings, and fire the shutter. Of course it also uploads photos wirelessly if you want to do that, but I just love having such a great wireless remote control.

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Marty
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/marty4650/sets/72157606210120132
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marty4650/sets/72157606210120132/show/
my blog: http://marty4650.blogspot.com/
After looking at the DPR studio shot comparison tool, thinking a bit, looking again and thinking again, I have finally made up my mind ;) : I will be buying a M4/3 camera to replace my XZ-1. I have watched your videos and I'm no longer worried about switching lenses. The concern that I still have is whether I will be able to afford a tele lens to complement the kit lens. But even if I won't be able to buy a tele lens, I can still crop. I never print large, in fact I haven't printed much at all yet. So limiting myself to 10MP minimum seems a bit silly. I just cropped a picture of taken with my XZ-1 in good light, and at about 1,5 MP it still looked decent to me.

Apart from this the M4/3 cameras on my short list seem to have a clear advantage compared to the Sony RX100 at high ISOs. And because I don't actually use all the MP, I will probably have more use for the higher quality at 1:1 of the M4/3 cameras then the higher resolution the RX100 offers when cropping. And investing in M4/3 remains the more sensible option to me, then buying a 'disposable' compact again.

I'm currently still torn between the GM1, GF7 and Olympus E-PL7. Unfortunately I have found out that the GF7 does not have the thumb scroll wheel that I love so much on my XZ-1 (ever since using one on a Canon SX120IS at a photography class years ago, I have come to love the scroll wheel, and fortunately both my SZ-10 and XZ-1 had/have one). Although at first glance the four-way controller on the GF7 appears to be a scroll wheel, according to professional reviews, including DPR's, it isn't in fact. The GM1 does have one, while the E-PL7 also doesn't have one, but at least has a control dial around the shutter button to replace it. Other reasons why I am torn between these three are:

E-PL7:

+like the GF7 has a supersonic wave filter to remove sensor dust, but unlike Panasonic's implementation, the Olympus one seems to have a proven track record

+has IBIS

+has EFCS instead of only a normal electronic shutter, so shutter shock doesn't occur at any shutter speed

+has a nice grip

+no 12-32 mm kit lens to sell

-kit is 150 euro more expensive than the GM1, and 120 euro more expensive than the GF7 (in the Netherlands), the Olympus 40-150 mm being less expensive (I have read Olympus also seems to lower the price during sales) might compensate for this(?)

-four-way controller seems to be made from very cheap plastic

-I prefer the styling of the GM1 and GF7, the Olympus seems very bulky from the top

-according to observations from DPR forum members Panasonic cameras and lenses seem to have better build quality/are more reliable

GF7:

+(see cons of E-PL7)

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GM1:

+(see cons of E-PL7)

+30 euro cheaper than the GF7 kit (in the Netherlands)

- some users on the DPR forum have reported dust spots on the sensor on arrival

-slighter larger size of GF7 might be preferable



I should mention that I am still planning to sell the 12-32 mm, I have indeed read that some members have observed the 12-32 mm to be a bit sharper, but others have said that all the kit lenses seem to have very similar IQ, it seems that this is a result of sample variation and to be honest I can't afford risking having the 12-32 mm fall apart as soon as 2 months(!) after purchase. I also prefer the larger maximum focal length of the 14-42 II, I also don't care much about the 24 mm of the 12-32 mm, because although I would of course like pretty much everyone want a wider FOV, I dislike the distortion of lenses wider than 28 mm. In fact my XZ-1 already has quite some distortion at 28 mm:

Barrel distortion at 28 mm with an Olympus XZ-1
Barrel distortion at 28 mm with an Olympus XZ-1



It'll probably take a while before you'll be able to see my post, as I still haven't been approved by the moderators :( Yesterday it took almost all day before my post was visible...
 
After looking at the DPR studio shot comparison tool, thinking a bit, looking again and thinking again, I have finally made up my mind ;) : I will be buying a M4/3 camera
That's a very good choice.
The concern that I still have is whether I will be able to afford a tele lens to complement the kit lens.
The 40-150 f/4-5.6 tele zoom is very good and very affordable, it can frequently be found used for under €100.
I am still planning to sell the 12-32 mm,
to be honest I can't afford risking having the 12-32 mm fall apart as soon as 2 months(!) after purchase.
Why do you think you get a two year warranty? ;-)
I also don't care much about the 24 mm of the 12-32 mm, because although I would of course like pretty much everyone want a wider FOV, I dislike the distortion of lenses wider than 28 mm. In fact my XZ-1 already has quite some distortion at 28 mm:
Distortion is easily corrected by software, either in the camera or else in post-processing.
 

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