In your own opinion, what is the best 50mm for the M240 and why?

great perspective and I don't want to get into any FL arguments, but I have the 35 f/2, I feel 28 is too close to that, perhaps a 24mm?
The diagonal angle of view between 35mm and 28mm lenses is large enough to be significant for some people, not enough for others.

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There's no hard and fast rule ...

Personally, I'd buy one lens at a time and not worry too much about the rest of the kit until you are happy with a 50mm. (And if you cannot make you mind up otherwise, no one has ever gone wrong buying a Leica Summicron 50mm lens... :-))

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true story and the sad thing is, I haven't even tried my 90mm apo on it yet...I have serious G.A.S
 
The 50 Cron is one heck of a lens, and at F2 it is certainly fast enough for most applications. I run mine on an M8 and M6, where it certainly shines. Sharpness and micro-contrast are probably my favorite characteristic of this lens. Those areas that are in focus are unbelievably sharp, and the sharpness is even across the field. Out of focus area is not that of the Lux F1.4 but are also nothing I would ever complain about. Compared to other 50s I've used like Canon EF 50/1.4, or Sigma EF 50/2.0 macro, the 50/2.0 Cron is in another league.
 
so interesting and thank you for your feedback. There is a good deal of opinions out there. I'm think to myself...one extra stop @ 2x the price and you more weight, blocked view in the RF...what do I do? (lux vs cron). Granted there is more sharpness @ f2 in the center MTF wise on the lux, but that is all clinical. I'm going to play around on ebay as I am not in the rush. Who knows, maybe I will end up with an apo :-). Funny you mentioned canon. Although the bokeh was distracting a bit, I struck gold around 15 years ago and picked up the nifty fifty for 70 bucks...I bought/returned like 5 different 1.4s because the 1.8 killed it in all aspects (outside of smoother bokeh)...anyway who knows. Too each to their own, but I value everyone's opinion here.
 
Well, I have owned three different 50mm's for my Leica M's over the years. I started with the current Summicron as my first rangefinder lens. It was fantastic. Only thing I didn't like about it--literally the only thing--was that it didn't have a focus tab. I really like having a focus tab as it lets me pre-focus before I even bring the camera to my eye.

When I bought the 50 cron, I thought what I really wanted was the 50 ASPH Lux. It had a fantastic reputation, aspheric surfaces to reduce distortion, was a stop faster, and had a one year waiting list (give or take). I got in line. When it arrived, I sold the 50 Summicron to help fund the 50 Summilux.

The 'Lux was every bit as good as its reputation, but it definitely had a couple issues I hadn't thought about. First, it wasn't as well balanced on the M body as the Cron had been. Second, it was just heavy enough to be annoying, though not really a problem. Third, the focusing was not as silky smooth as on the Summicron (though it did have the tab I so wanted), and fourth was viewfinder blockage. There was just too much. Still, I lived quite happily with the 'Lux for several years. Below f/2.8 the 'Lux was a better lens than the 'Cron, but from f/2.8 onwards they were indistinguishable to my eye. Sure, I could see a difference in bokeh, but I didn't consistently prefer one over the other. Obviously, the 'Lux was a stop faster, but I found I rarely needed or wanted that extra stop due to the limited depth of field and the need to really nail the focus.

Recently I had an opportunity to purchase a 50mm APO Summicron used for a very fair price--right around your budget limit of $4K. It's really the best of all worlds from my perspective. In certain situations I can see the difference in resolution (though those instances are few and far between--I basically have to use Live View to get the focus just right, then stop down, make sure I'm using a tripod, etc.. It's got the focus tab I love, has silky smooth focusing, a very elegant twist-up lens hood (which is enough to protect the front element from accidental knocking around, but not enough to do a good job of glare protection), is fairly immune to flare, is small and light like my original Summicron, has no significant viewfinder blockage, and is fast enough for any of the images I want to take. It's really the perfect 50mm. It even works well on my SL where I find it is easier to focus wide open than on the M.

I have never wanted a Noctilux due to the size and weight issues and the limited real-world use (at least in my photography) for such a razor thin depth of field. I'm sure it's a wonderful lens, but it just doesn't appeal to me.

I have never owned any of the slower 50's such as the Summarit or one of the older lenses so I can't speak to them.

From my perspective, the 50 APO is the best 50 I have ever seen or used. It is small, light, flare resistant (aside from the initial defective batch), has impeccable image quality, fantastic contrast, good bokeh--subjectively--and handles really well. I just don't see how to improve it aside from maybe lowering the price.

If your budget or your sense of value won't allow the 50 APO Summicron, my second choice would actually be the regular 50mm Summicron. It is very nearly as good as the APO, has wonderfully smooth focusing, is small, light, not particularly expensive by Leica standards. It just doesn't get much better.

In general, I find the Summicron to be my favorite of the Leica lenses at almost every focal length. f/2 seems to be where you get the best compromise on size/weight, price, handling, speed, control over depth of field, etc.. Depending on your photographic style, your requirements could be quite different, though.

- Jared
 
Jared, I can't believe you said this...I actually won a bid on eBay...I feel it may be too good to be true (probably is)...a brand new (pics of warranty, box, everything) APO for 4700. I paid....we will see..
 
There is no such thing as th best lens. Best for what? For low light? For color reproduction? For resolving power? For Leica glow?
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Irakly Shanidze
www.shanidze.com/en
 
chrismosk wrote:
Jared, I can't believe you said this...I actually won a bid on eBay...I feel it may be too good to be true (probably is)...a brand new (pics of warranty, box, everything) APO for 4700. I paid....we will see..
You might wish to check that it does not suffer from the dreaded CVF (central veiling flare). Just shoot a dark subject matter against the light at f/16 and check that there is not a round stain of flare in the center of the frame. Don't panic if you find one, it will be fixed for free by Leica. See http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic...asph-central-veiling-flare-fogging/?p=2407794
Best,
LCT
 
I'm not worried about anything and this appears to be an isolated incident. I live very close to the repair facility (about 10 min drive) so I'm not too concerned.
 
There is no such thing as the best lens. Best for what? For low light? For color reproduction? For resolving power? For Leica glow?
--
Irakly Shanidze
www.shanidze.com/en
Indeed - "best" can only be determined against a set of specified requirements.

Joe
This user strikes me as too experienced to be asking this question. And the way he keeps the conversation going...
 
Maybe experienced, but I'm a newbie to Leica hence why I"m asking you guys.
 
Perish the thought, but if I had to have just one 50mm M lens, it would be the 50/2 APO. The lens is by far the sharpest, least distortion, and at f/2, you get enough bokeh to work with it in that realm too.
 
Please... Leica is no different from other brands in a sense that there is no universal solution. having 20+ different cameras you should have figured it out by now :)
 
for my taste:

1) 50 APO for its color, contrast, bokeh, detail

2) 50 Summicron, I would say for its very balanced rendering on the M type 240 and good relation between size and speed

3) 50/1.4asph if you need f1.4

4) 50/1.5 Zeiss for a special rendering

5) Summarit or 50/2.8 collaps. for its small size

So like other sdaid, it really depends what is important to you
 
Actually you are wrong...as I prefer the nifty 50 on the canon more than the regular 50 1.4
 
Well done, thank you
 
how does that contradict my statement?
 
Because I'm here asking questions to Leica owners in a Leica forum becuase I am not familiar with Leica lenses and have every reason in the world to be curious, albeit the wealth of knowledge and experience I have. 2+2=4
 
chrismosk wrote:
Jared, I can't believe you said this...I actually won a bid on eBay...I feel it may be too good to be true (probably is)...a brand new (pics of warranty, box, everything) APO for 4700. I paid....we will see..
You might wish to check that it does not suffer from the dreaded CVF (central veiling flare). Just shoot a dark subject matter against the light at f/16 and check that there is not a round stain of flare in the center of the frame. Don't panic if you find one, it will be fixed for free by Leica. See http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic...asph-central-veiling-flare-fogging/?p=2407794
Best,
LCT
I'm sure this one doesn't suffer from that dreaded CVF.
 

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