No it doesn't, where did you get that idea from? ALL Sony cameras support Memory Sticks, but it's not done with dual card slots, they just engineered the single slot in such a way that it can take both kinds of memory card.
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A6300 Missing Features - Any?
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IBIS allows for taking photos that even your "proper holding techniques" would not allow and because of IBIS, on the fly, low light, high quality photography is now possible.
More important, even with a 28mm lens, IBIS improves the probability of a sharp image at at what most would consider "safe" shutter speeds: http://blog.kasson.com/?p=8554
Given that the RX10, RX100 and a7II cameras have IBIS, not to mention Olympus MFT cameras, its not hard to understand why many expected the "high-end" Sony APS-C camera to offer IBIS.
Again, Sony fails to hit a home run, not only for the lack of IBIS but other missing features as well...
Marcus Sundman
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...and then you get the rule of shutter speed compared to focal length. In the "good old days" you had to follow that rule. In the new and improved days you can use a shutter speed several stops higher if you have IS. Not for all subjects but for many.
ericN2
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Well, I think it has to be said that all of us here right now are picking up information on the new A6300 from all sorts of different places as there so far seems to be no kind of Manual available or indeed anything from Sony in like form that gives a compete detailed summary of the thing a la the usual Manuals. I just feel sure that where I spotted this reference to the dual card availability it said 'dual slots' ... maybe whoever wrote that was also misinformed on how it was provided ... it still begs the question though..WHY, on this camera which very positively emphasises the superfast speed of focus/shooting .. is an old-fashioned MemStick usable in it !! It rather suggests that it is far from a 'newly designed' camera but to a big extent, a partial update of many parts of the old, to keep the final total cost - and of course required selling price - to as reasonable level as they feel possible.
This has in my view always been the biggest bugbear of any 'improved/updated' A6000... to be acceptable it HAS to be limited as otherwise it just gets far too close to the A7 range and likely kills a true economical 'update'. In fairness..I think maybe this HAS actually done what is needed..very good updates on the original A6000 in many respects, yet not enough to make it much too close in cost to the A7 range.. and in doing so of course NOW there are many who say this, that or the other should have been done in the improvements... totally ignoring the fact that such things are NOT free , yet they are unlikely to want to pay for them.
If I understand correctly, it still uses the same old SELP1650 kit, and does not have IBIS.
While I am glad that Sony did not abandon APS-C, these are the two main features that would incite me to buy it.
I don't much care about 4k video - it's great but given that the vast majority of my videos are kids' performances in the dimly lit auditoriums, I wouldn't be able to take advantage of superior definition anyway. Maybe to better see the high ISO artefacts ?
So unless it has a significantly better high ISO performance, a significantly better IQ, or goes back to Minolta JPEG colors, I really don't see myself buying it.
A6000 however will be a major bargain.
While I am glad that Sony did not abandon APS-C, these are the two main features that would incite me to buy it.
I don't much care about 4k video - it's great but given that the vast majority of my videos are kids' performances in the dimly lit auditoriums, I wouldn't be able to take advantage of superior definition anyway. Maybe to better see the high ISO artefacts ?
So unless it has a significantly better high ISO performance, a significantly better IQ, or goes back to Minolta JPEG colors, I really don't see myself buying it.
A6000 however will be a major bargain.
I just checked and not one of my manual lenses or Minolta Maxxum lenses have stabilization.
The current stabilized lenses work fine on Nex-6.
I hope I am wrong, but I really fail to see what makes A6300 superior (as opposed to somewhat better) to A6000 especially with such a huge markup.
It's a deal breaker because most people simply don't see the justification for such a significant price increase. Also, the new version is supposed to bring the new, better features, otherwise it's just a rebranded, slightly upgraded old version. The biggest new feature missing now is IBIS. And while Sony users did live without it, it didn't make this feature any less desirable. IBIS would make my Beercan a much more useful lens.
What brought Sony to the forefront of Mirroless market was innovation at decent cost. Neither of which is A6300.
Entropy512
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Entropy512
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https://fstoppers.com/originals/6-reasons-shoot-4k-video-even-if-you-cant-view-it-yet-77535 is one of two good articles on why 4K is beneficial even if your production process outputs 1080p.
Especially in this case since the big deal with the A6300 is full sensor readout which will also provide significant improvements in noise performance.
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I've never run into a situation where I thought, "Rats, I can't take the shot because I don't have IBIS."
Simple solution is to go buy one of those if you absolutely need IBIS.
Dirk W
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For me, nothing else, but missing IBIS is a big issue. One of the charm of the mirrorless cameras for me is to be able to adapt manual lenses, or a-mount for that reason. IBIS would have been such a big improvement for this possibility. Still, I don't think I will buy the A7R2 instead, the price difference is just too huge. At the A7II I would miss the silent shutter and crop reserve. Maybe the OMD-EM10ii.
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hammarbytp
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OLYMPUS OM-D E-M5 for starters. Fujifilm cameras also provide a good mix of controls and customisation
I also shot film for decades, and the first accessory I got for my first camera (even before additional lenses) was a tripod. I use a tripod or at least a monopod on something like 80-90% of my shots. I paid more for my current tripod than I have ever paid for a lens. But...
I almost exclusively use legacy glass. Of the 10 lenses I have in my collection, exactly one has IS (and that one doesn't really need it).
Your assesment with IBIS is flawed. The old rule of minimum handheld shutter speeds of 1/(focal length) were often bested by a stop to a stop and a half with good technique and a really steady hand. But I regularly see top quality images shot handheld with IS at three or four stops slower than that guide. I know some users who can consistently get ONE SECOND exposures handheld at 200mm. That is a 7+ stop improvement.
It's not that lack of IBIS is a deal breaker for me. Because I use a tripod most of the time, it would usually be turned off. Plus, I'm not in the market for a new camera right now. But it might have been a deal maker, because I would have seriously considered getting into the market if I could have gotten IS for every one of my legacy lenses for one price.
What assessment? I made no assessment of IBIS.
I'm just wondering why all the apparent rage over it's exclusion in this particular camera. Though it might be convenient for some, it's certainly available in other cameras if someone feels the need for it.
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There's your answer, buy one of those.
And I did. Situations where I couldn't take a decent handheld shot with a lens that did not have OSS because of the low shutter speed. Different strokes for different folks, see ?
Sure, and that is what some of Sony APS-C users will do, others will live without IBIS - and many without A6300 since there's little in it to justify the cost increase over A6000 for them.
In the end, this will not bring more users into Sony ecosystem, which should have been their goal.
My guess is, by keeping certain highly desired features from APS-C and bumping up the price, they are trying to make more users switch into FF. Which is their money cow.
However, this would also create a strong push for some users to abandon the platform altogether. Some people, myself included, simply don't want a large, expensive camera.
I plan on keeping my Nex-6 until it dies, and getting a used A6000 afterwards. But I am also starting to look at other brands.
For thousands of years, people had neither electricity nor running water.
And I have a few nice old MF lenses, as well as Minolta AF lenses, which could really benefit from IBIS.
Good like with proper holding techniques in freezing weather on a dark city street.
As I said in my OP on this topic, I use stabilization when I feel the need for it. My point is that OSS is already available in some lenses so the exclusion of IBIS isn't that big of a deal.
I'm waiting to see if IQ has improved significantly, or if Sony releases something else soon.
Good idea.
I've done it without IBIS. Late January 2015, 19F with a 20+mph wind from just before sunrise for about two hours. I'll never forget it. It was so cold I had to ditch to my car and doorways several times. I most likely won't be doing that again.
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Marcus Sundman
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OK, so rjjr-superman is able to hold his hands steady as a tripod so OIS is useless for everyone, right? How about you stop whining about people wanting something that they feel would be useful in a camera that they would want to buy? And everyone knows other manufacturers offer OIS, so you don't have to point that out either.
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