tom1234567
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wait for the X-T2 it will be a better camera than the pro2???????
just buy a dog and go for a walk and chill out
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I Think the X-Pro2 is overpriced and no advantage over X-T1 or X-T10
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just buy a dog and go for a walk and chill out
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After four years the images the old model takes are no longer useable ?
It's a camera man ... what kind of major updates are you expecting ? A first generation camera model usually takes a while to get up to speed. I would rather wait 4 years than buy a new body every year reflecting incremental minor changes. I can't afford that kind of technology advances. It's a waste of hard earned money if you believe in that kind of camera.
It's a camera man ... what kind of major updates are you expecting ? A first generation camera model usually takes a while to get up to speed. I would rather wait 4 years than buy a new body every year reflecting incremental minor changes. I can't afford that kind of technology advances. It's a waste of hard earned money if you believe in that kind of camera.
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Wait long enough and you get a great price. Then you start to complain the camera is not as good or recent as some newly announced camera from say Canon or Nikon. Then you complain about no FW updates a year later after that. Then the PRO3 is announced and it's too pricey. Then you wait for prices to drop ....
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Dabbler
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The specs list the XPro 2 sensor as X-Trans which is made by Fuji. What makes you think it's using a Sony Bayer sensor?
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Just speaking for myself, I'm fine with the 4-year interval. My guess is that Fujifilm would have preferred to have an X-Pro2 out in about 3 years, but I think they wanted a more significant set of improvements.I'm going to assume you are happy your X-E2 had all of the newer tech compared to the X-E1. That's what's going to let you get the new AF in the 4.0 update.Ok, I'll play
I guess it would have been good for some folks if they'd released a X-Pro2 back in 2014, but perhaps as it's the flagship model they wanted to wait until they had a sensor with more mps, who knows?
When I was in the market for my first (and only) system camera, the X-e2 and the X-T1 were already in the shops, and I preferred the rangefinder style of the X-e2. I like the way Fuji appear to update the firmware for their cameras rather than just bringing another model out. I guess Sony might be the biggest culprit for this but I may be wrong.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the X-Pro2 updated to 4K video within a year, and yes, I have seen a X-Pro2 video sample and it looked fine to me.
Where I was going was arguing that while Fuji didn't need to release an X-Pro every year, it would have been nice for at least on new X-pro between the old 1 and the new 2. As opposed to Fuji just taking their time.
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I bought my X-Pro1 about a year into production because is took that long for the wide-angle lens selection to fill out. Beyond that, I can't recall the X-Pro1, even at 4 years into the model, being the cause of any flubbed photos. But I see in the X-Pro2 enough incremental improvements to have pre-ordered one at my local store.
That long interval also allowed me to figure out that my X-T1 wasn't really competitive with recent APS-C DSLRs...So it is going away.
To be truthful, what I really want to see is the next version of the X100 with improved sensor, processing, AF, etc. I'm still using the X100s (skipped the X100t).
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bjzwaan
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Are you happy that the X-E2 existed, or would you have rather Fuji waited until 2016 to release the X-E2 so its' changes over the X-E1 would be more significant?LOL.Maybe I should be.Maybe you should be in charge of Fujis product developing / marketing
I'm ok with fewer models with more significant changes. Just hope they bring out the X-E3 this year, then I can buy it six months or so later when the price drops a bit. I try not to be an 'early adopter' where tech is involved.
I noticed you own and XE2; weird that you didn't buy an XE1 so you could wait for the XE3. :-D
X-e2 was actually my first system camera, tried Sony, Panasonic, didn't bother with Canon or Nikon as they were larger than I wanted to go at that time. The Fuji just was more enjoyable to use. In hindsight I'm pretty glad with my decision.
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+1 all i wanted was the noise reduction taken down on the 16 mpx really.
I expected a bit more for the Xpro2 but it is what it is.
You may have other choice.. a Leica.....this guy on another forum swapped his M3 for a PRO1...was a 2 or 3 year old post
I sold my M9 and 4 lenses (28mm f/2, 25mm/f2 'King of Bokeh, 50mm f/2, & 90mm f/2) and bought the Fuji X-Pro 1 with 3 lenses (18mm/f2, 35mm f/1.4, and 60mm f/2.4, 2 extra batteries, and the handgrip - all for the price of *one* of my Leica lenses.
The X-Pro 1 is a better camera than the Leica M9 in every way except manual focus, which I don't use on the Fuji, anyways; I just wish it had been around when I first invested $22,000.00 in Leica gear, heh.
makes it a bit of a bargain
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I overlapped my M9 (with a mix of Leica, CV, and Zeiss lenses ranging from 12mm to 90mm) and the X-Pro1 for about a year. I ended up selling the M9 because, while I loved shooting with it, I found I could do more things in more situations with the Fuji than I could with the Leica. (Kept most of the M-mount lenses though...)
M9 renders best colours I have seen in last years in digital cam - organic, natural, just beautiful... Fuji colours are not that nice, they were very good in first Fuji cams but get worse and worse in each new X-Trans, they look unnatural and artifical now for me.
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We are in the age of overpriced cameras. It looks even more dramatic if you take into account that the Yen lost 1/3 of its value against the greenback!
Some "funny" prices:
Nikon: d500: 2k+$ alright "semipro", but come on, still APS-c. Innovation? Unless you call a cropped video with crappy CDAF innovation... On top of that, nikon is raising the price of its lenses - I just wonder what ripple effect that may have in the photographic industry...
Olympus PEN F: 1.2k+$, no real new features (over the panasonic GX8+Oly E-M5II), no sensor improvement, fashion product
Sony A7rII: 3.4k$!!! Alright, this is a really cool camera with all the bellows and whistles, still, it's almost double as the a7 started!
Seems, that companies want to charge more for an incremental refresh and much more for real innovation (like the sony case). The x-pro2 appears to be an innovative product, we shall see how it fares against the D500, Sony A7000 (not even out yet) and other APS-c competitors.
For the OP: Australian prices are a different story, they've never really been cheap (compared to US, HK, ...) on top of that you got the AUD/USD rate...
Some "funny" prices:
Nikon: d500: 2k+$ alright "semipro", but come on, still APS-c. Innovation? Unless you call a cropped video with crappy CDAF innovation... On top of that, nikon is raising the price of its lenses - I just wonder what ripple effect that may have in the photographic industry...
Olympus PEN F: 1.2k+$, no real new features (over the panasonic GX8+Oly E-M5II), no sensor improvement, fashion product
Sony A7rII: 3.4k$!!! Alright, this is a really cool camera with all the bellows and whistles, still, it's almost double as the a7 started!
Seems, that companies want to charge more for an incremental refresh and much more for real innovation (like the sony case). The x-pro2 appears to be an innovative product, we shall see how it fares against the D500, Sony A7000 (not even out yet) and other APS-c competitors.
For the OP: Australian prices are a different story, they've never really been cheap (compared to US, HK, ...) on top of that you got the AUD/USD rate...
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ShutterNot
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I only wish I could afford an M9. Sighhh
I think the "look" or "colours " from camera to camera are VERY subjective ..i like Canon colours mainly the older Canons like my old 5D.. i think newer the camera they try to squeeze more sensitivity ETC out of the sensor and spoil the colour ..i find fuji ok my but XE-2 raw files are very cold...i dislike some sony/nikon colours...skin tones often have a yellow/green tint that vary hard to get rid off ..my sony nex 3-c is like that and when i looked to upgrade it i find the nex 6 to be inflicted slightly more and the A6000 even more so that's why i ended up with the XE-2 ...i can often recognise a nikon photo as often blacks have a brown tint (canon can have a slight blue tint but easier to live with ) and nikon can have the yellow /green skin tones as well
I think the Look of the Fuji is very dependent on the raw converter
Agree about 5D (I had it) I really liked its colours, I also do not like Nikon and Sony colour apart from Nex-7 - very nice and different from A6000 which look poor. But colour is a personal taste of course.
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The Canadian price looks great to this American.
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Canadian price is $1899.99 in funds Canadian. Converted to funds US, that is $1363.57 as of this minute. Considerably cheaper than in the US. While I will pay the Goods and Services Tax, Alberta has no sales tax provincially. Pretty much wherever you go on the planet, there are taxes.
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