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I am seeing lots of videos on the D500 but very few people have actually touched one - let alone shot with one. So all I am seeing are talking heads reading the official specs back to me. I guess if I don't like reading on my own - these videos would be great...

What's funny is that the people who have actually shot with the D500 haven't posted any videos on it.

Is it because the camera is still in pre-production mode and hasn't been finalized yet?
 
You know why. It's bandwagon-hopping that gets you internet clicks and your name out there. I'm going to do my own one with a mock-up in papiere maché and liquorice, for "Fish knows foto"
 
I guess if you want to be a youtube star - that's what you got to do...

Maybe I should do my own video since I actually got to touch a D500 for 30 seconds a couple of weeks ago.
fishy wishy said:
You know why. It's bandwagon-hopping that gets you internet clicks and your name out there. I'm going to do my own one with a mock-up in papiere maché and liquorice, for "Fish knows foto"
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SVPhotography said:
I am seeing lots of videos on the D500 but very few people have actually touched one - let alone shot with one. So all I am seeing are talking heads reading the official specs back to me. I guess if I don't like reading on my own - these videos would be great...
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Well, you could say the same thing applies to any forum that discusses the d500. You don't have to view the videos or read any forum posts on the topic, if it doesn't interest you.

Obviously, lots of people are interested in the d500 and they are also interested in discussing it and learning the thoughts of others on the topic. The videos are the same as any forum post, just someone's thoughts or questions.
SVPhotography said:
Is it because the camera is still in pre-production mode and hasn't been finalized yet?
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That would be my guess. Even the folks that are seeing it in the special events now are not seeing production models and they can't record any images.

Kerry
 
It is his money. With his lightroom cc book in the background I do expect something more.
 
lock said:
It is his money. With his lightroom cc book in the background I do expect something more.
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Sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. What more do you expect, from whom?

Kerry
 
SVPhotography said:
I am seeing lots of videos on the D500 but very few people have actually touched one - let alone shot with one. So all I am seeing are talking heads reading the official specs back to me. I guess if I don't like reading on my own - these videos would be great...

What's funny is that the people who have actually shot with the D500 haven't posted any videos on it.

Is it because the camera is still in pre-production mode and hasn't been finalized yet?
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I would imagine the photogs who were provided pre-production versions of the D500 have been embargoed by Nikon from producing preview videos. Nikon marketing has an interest in controlling the messaging around the introduction and roll-out of the product. That control goes away as soon as product starts shipping. Until then, Nikon will tease us with images and blurbs in dribs and drabs.
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Bill Ferris Photography
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fishy wishy said:
You know why. It's bandwagon-hopping that gets you internet clicks and your name out there. I'm going to do my own one with a mock-up in papiere maché and liquorice, for "Fish knows foto"
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Fro fellow I hope? Never saw your hair, so can't be sure can we?
 
SVPhotography said:
I am seeing lots of videos on the D500 but very few people have actually touched one - let alone shot with one. So all I am seeing are talking heads reading the official specs back to me. I guess if I don't like reading on my own - these videos would be great...

What's funny is that the people who have actually shot with the D500 haven't posted any videos on it.

Is it because the camera is still in pre-production mode and hasn't been finalized yet?
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It does cost money and time to make and produce videos on YouTube, and these guys (Fro, the Northrups, etc) do produce some enjoyable content for us to watch for free. Can't be to critical if they come out with what could be considered click bait on occasion. Fro and Matt Granger handled the camera and gave coverage at CES, which was great.
 
SVPhotography said:
I am seeing lots of videos on the D500 but very few people have actually touched one - let alone shot with one. So all I am seeing are talking heads reading the official specs back to me. I guess if I don't like reading on my own - these videos would be great...

What's funny is that the people who have actually shot with the D500 haven't posted any videos on it.

Is it because the camera is still in pre-production mode and hasn't been finalized yet?
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Bingo. For 'site hits'.

;-)

When the camera is actually released and in folks hands, is when the real reviews will be published. By pros or amateurs.

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Wishing You Good Light.
 
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fishy wishy said:
You know why. It's bandwagon-hopping that gets you internet clicks and your name out there. I'm going to do my own one with a mock-up in papiere maché and liquorice, for "Fish knows foto"
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While you're at it.. do the D510 too :)

make sure you shoehorn a pop up flash in their. :)
 
ImageAmateur said:
Bingo. For 'site hits'.
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I don't get the folk who come here who complain about KR and put in links to his articles!!!!!

I like to see product images from KR. (that's useful).. you just have to use your common sense to weed out the wacky in the prose.. shame if you know nothing, though.
ImageAmateur said:
;-)

When the camera is actually released and in folks hands, is when the real reviews will be published. By pros or amateurs.
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About the opinion of others when posted on the Internet? Sure, camera is not here yet, but a LOT of people, I'd venture to guess most of those who participate in this thread for example, are starting to form opinions based on the specs and information we get. No harm there, take it for what it is.

So what is the point to:

1. Complain about videos
2. Complain about no flash
3. Complain about ISO from pre-pro images
4. On and on, yada-yada

Sheesh, you'd think the human race was nothing but a bunch of rant and ravers .... hmmmmm ;-)
 
Bill Dewey said:
Why do people have the need to rant/complain/moan/etc......
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because they can. unlike newspapers, TV, radio, and video — where people can bark at you without, for the most part, being interrupted — an online forum is a two way medium. people opine, others opine back.

it's why attention whores typically have greater success with vanity based TV shows, video, or websites which feed their growing families.
Bill Dewey said:
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Sheesh, you'd think the human race was nothing but a bunch of rant and ravers .... hmmmmm ;-)
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thank you for your service rant and rave. :~)
 
So let me get this right. DPReview can set up a Nikon Pro DX forum with D500 in its name, and you posted in that forum, and I doubt too many people in this forum have shot with the D500, and the people who have shot with the D500 are in Nikon's pocket and are thus paid advertisers, and lots of people are discussing this camera in this forum and others, but it is somehow rant-worthy when Youtubers discuss the very same upcoming product. If there's interest in a topic, why can't they talk about it? One doesn't even have go to "for clicks" answer because they would talk about it anyway...because not only are their viewers are interested, but they are too. Should we rant that people here should not discuss this camera because they haven't used it yet? Should discussion forums be forbidden from building sub-forums for this camera? Do we wait until Nikon's paid photographers talk about it? Or do we wait until objective reviewers get their hands on it (probably after release) before we can be released from the zone of silence? Or can we just relax and let people discuss something of interest to them?
 
A discussion implies 2 way communication.

I say something - you say something back and we continue from there.

I doubt you will see any of the youtube "stars" here in a discussion because they cannot monetize discussions on here while they can monetize their videos on youtube.

I don't mind when someone posts something of interest or educates people by doing a demo of techniques or reports on a current event on a show floor or reviews of gear they actually have on hand - I will be more than happy to clink of their video and help them monetize their videos but when a video is just a spec rehash in their home studio ... that's just no better than what KR does on his site.
shipdriver said:
So let me get this right. DPReview can set up a Nikon Pro DX forum with D500 in its name, and you posted in that forum, and I doubt too many people in this forum have shot with the D500, and the people who have shot with the D500 are in Nikon's pocket and are thus paid advertisers, and lots of people are discussing this camera in this forum and others, but it is somehow rant-worthy when Youtubers discuss the very same upcoming product. If there's interest in a topic, why can't they talk about it? One doesn't even have go to "for clicks" answer because they would talk about it anyway...because not only are their viewers are interested, but they are too. Should we rant that people here should not discuss this camera because they haven't used it yet? Should discussion forums be forbidden from building sub-forums for this camera? Do we wait until Nikon's paid photographers talk about it? Or do we wait until objective reviewers get their hands on it (probably after release) before we can be released from the zone of silence? Or can we just relax and let people discuss something of interest to them?
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