QV3000--360 degree panorama champ

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Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do 360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
Sorry, none of the panoramas loaded. Tried a bunch of them.

RonM
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
Mike,

the pano on the first screen loads and it looks great. it took a few seconds to load up (even with a cable modem). There was a white box for about 10 seconds with no indication that something was loading. then, perhaps by coincidence, I clicked on the autospin button and the image appeared.

As I said, it looks great. I couldn't notice any seams from merged images, but I'll go back and take a closer look. will also check other screens.

SteveK
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
They all loaded perfectly; page 1, Marble Creek and from the list. Load times on my 56k was less than a minute. The various buttons seemed to function as intended. Nice pictures!
FJ.
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
Mike,

Was able to follow the Marble Creek link, see the hot spots, and navigate to/from them with no problem. I also checked out most of the other panos on the list. Very, very nice indeed!!!

Do you mind sharing the specifics of how these were constructed (i.e. camera settings, pano software used [looks like pixaround], etc.)?

The quality of the images was striking. In using the panorama editor that came with the QV3000 and saving to quicktime VR, the image quality is pretty poor. With yours, zoom-in/out and the image quality is great.

You can either post here or email me directly.

Thanks for sharing -- great site!

SteveK
As I said, it looks great. I couldn't notice any seams from merged
images, but I'll go back and take a closer look. will also check
other screens.

SteveK
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
Ron,

Appreciate your willingness to assist me. I'm trying to figure out if it's the server, dropped packets on a particular hop, or the user side/browser.
Thank you for your help.

Are using IE/Netscape 4.0 or better?

Two other reports here in Saint Louis same as yours.

In IE, under the Tools menu, Options, Advanced, down to Microsoft VM:

Is Java console enabled?

Forget where it's at if you're using Netscape.

In any case, thanks again.

ms
RonM
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
This is very encouraging, and thanks for the compliment.

ms
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
Do you mind sharing the specifics of how these were constructed
(i.e. camera settings, pano software used [looks like pixaround],
etc.)?
I use the panorama mode for 2048x1536 (landscape) shots. I only need 8 if I use the edge alignment function, but sometimes the sun is too bright and I just estimate the overlap and use all nine. Vertical (1536x2048), I take a reading in auto, then to shutter priority and lock the apeture while I'm at it. Johnson's Shut Ins was taken vertical. Lens at default wide angle (35mm). I've tried zooming the lens with mixed results.

I use a tripod with a bench top head. It has a T-slot which allows you to center the lens--very important if you want the best result.

You're right about PixAround.com, or PixMaker, being the software. I started using their Lite version (was free) and then bought the Business version (not cheap).

If all you want to do is stitch a string of photos together in a panorama, it works very well. It doesn't stitch a matrix, but then I haven't had much success with other products that are supposed to. I like the idea that it runs on Java and doesn't require a plug-in.

I use a shareware program called JBatch to resize the images, and then the stitched image is run through Photoshop LE for corrections such as levels, image size, and unsharp mask. This is a procedure that has evolved, so some of the earlier panos didn't even get auto levels.
With yours, zoom-in/out and the
image quality is great.
You should see full resolution on the desktop. The files on the site were cut 60% to reduce load times. They have a postcard mode (executable) or you can run the jpeg on a offline broswer. To do 2048x1536 you'll need some horsepower, but I've stitched 800x600 on a P120 laptop. Takes a while, but it's doable.

I've got another 20 panos going up, and many more to take. I'm trying to get the site up by spring. Stop by again!

Thanks a lot for your help and kind words.

ms
 
What software did you use to allow the image to be scrolled 360 degree. This is incredible.

Thanks

STeve
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
Steve...

The software is actually a java module that downloads with the jpeg and html. The stitcher is made by PixAround.

There are other programs that do the same thing, but require a plugin. Go to a site titled gabby.com and you'll see what I mean. Most, I believe, run on QuickTime. If you're really curious there's a professor in Germany who has a website with freeware that runs on a variety of platforms.

I'm pretty well hooked. I have another 25 to post on the site, and eventually should have near a 100, maybe more.

Thanks, ms
What software did you use to allow the image to be scrolled 360
degree. This is incredible.

Thanks

STeve
 
hi,Mike,

ur hotspot PixAround scenes was incredibly impressive.

Wow...i have just purchased thier business edition .but i strongly believe that their biz version is affordable compared to other panoramic products in the market.furthermore it doesnt require any plugin to view their scenes.do u something they have just launcehd their pixscreen PDA. we can present our scenes in the PDA..

why dont u post ur scene in their webboard so that u will have more comments flowing in....
http://www.pixaround.com

cheers
kastrin
Do you mind sharing the specifics of how these were constructed
(i.e. camera settings, pano software used [looks like pixaround],
etc.)?
I use the panorama mode for 2048x1536 (landscape) shots. I only
need 8 if I use the edge alignment function, but sometimes the sun
is too bright and I just estimate the overlap and use all nine.
Vertical (1536x2048), I take a reading in auto, then to shutter
priority and lock the apeture while I'm at it. Johnson's Shut Ins
was taken vertical. Lens at default wide angle (35mm). I've tried
zooming the lens with mixed results.

I use a tripod with a bench top head. It has a T-slot which allows
you to center the lens--very important if you want the best result.

You're right about PixAround.com, or PixMaker, being the software.
I started using their Lite version (was free) and then bought the
Business version (not cheap).

If all you want to do is stitch a string of photos together in a
panorama, it works very well. It doesn't stitch a matrix, but then
I haven't had much success with other products that are supposed
to. I like the idea that it runs on Java and doesn't require a
plug-in.

I use a shareware program called JBatch to resize the images, and
then the stitched image is run through Photoshop LE for corrections
such as levels, image size, and unsharp mask. This is a procedure
that has evolved, so some of the earlier panos didn't even get auto
levels.
With yours, zoom-in/out and the
image quality is great.
You should see full resolution on the desktop. The files on the
site were cut 60% to reduce load times. They have a postcard mode
(executable) or you can run the jpeg on a offline broswer. To do
2048x1536 you'll need some horsepower, but I've stitched 800x600 on
a P120 laptop. Takes a while, but it's doable.

I've got another 20 panos going up, and many more to take. I'm
trying to get the site up by spring. Stop by again!

Thanks a lot for your help and kind words.

ms
 
Thanks Kastrin

Pixaround has my url and they did ask to use a quote from an email, but you might notice that I do not display their button on my site. That may have nothing to do with it, but in any case I'm not all that anxious for a lot of people going there because I've just started putting stuff up. I'm also less than happy with their licensing of the business edition--it's site specific and I have to buy another if I want to use on a 2nd site. I still like their software, and their business model is what it is.

I spent a month trying different programs and would agree that PixAround is a pretty fair deal by comparison.

Good luck and post your site when you get it rolling.

ms
ur hotspot PixAround scenes was incredibly impressive.
Wow...i have just purchased thier business edition .but i strongly
believe that their biz version is affordable compared to other
panoramic products in the market.furthermore it doesnt require any
plugin to view their scenes.do u something they have just launcehd
their pixscreen PDA. we can present our scenes in the PDA..
why dont u post ur scene in their webboard so that u will have more
comments flowing in....
http://www.pixaround.com

cheers
kastrin
Do you mind sharing the specifics of how these were constructed
(i.e. camera settings, pano software used [looks like pixaround],
etc.)?
I use the panorama mode for 2048x1536 (landscape) shots. I only
need 8 if I use the edge alignment function, but sometimes the sun
is too bright and I just estimate the overlap and use all nine.
Vertical (1536x2048), I take a reading in auto, then to shutter
priority and lock the apeture while I'm at it. Johnson's Shut Ins
was taken vertical. Lens at default wide angle (35mm). I've tried
zooming the lens with mixed results.

I use a tripod with a bench top head. It has a T-slot which allows
you to center the lens--very important if you want the best result.

You're right about PixAround.com, or PixMaker, being the software.
I started using their Lite version (was free) and then bought the
Business version (not cheap).

If all you want to do is stitch a string of photos together in a
panorama, it works very well. It doesn't stitch a matrix, but then
I haven't had much success with other products that are supposed
to. I like the idea that it runs on Java and doesn't require a
plug-in.

I use a shareware program called JBatch to resize the images, and
then the stitched image is run through Photoshop LE for corrections
such as levels, image size, and unsharp mask. This is a procedure
that has evolved, so some of the earlier panos didn't even get auto
levels.
With yours, zoom-in/out and the
image quality is great.
You should see full resolution on the desktop. The files on the
site were cut 60% to reduce load times. They have a postcard mode
(executable) or you can run the jpeg on a offline broswer. To do
2048x1536 you'll need some horsepower, but I've stitched 800x600 on
a P120 laptop. Takes a while, but it's doable.

I've got another 20 panos going up, and many more to take. I'm
trying to get the site up by spring. Stop by again!

Thanks a lot for your help and kind words.

ms
 
I activated java console on my laptop and my desktop, both running IE5.5 and Win98. I can now view the panoramas on my laptop, but my Dell desktop is still no go. Beats me as to why.

RonM
Appreciate your willingness to assist me. I'm trying to figure out
if it's the server, dropped packets on a particular hop, or the
user side/browser.
Thank you for your help.

Are using IE/Netscape 4.0 or better?

Two other reports here in Saint Louis same as yours.

In IE, under the Tools menu, Options, Advanced, down to Microsoft VM:

Is Java console enabled?

Forget where it's at if you're using Netscape.

In any case, thanks again.

ms
RonM
Despite a review to the contrary, I bought the Casio 3000ex to do
360 degree panos. It's hot!!!

Usually 8 shots will do the trick, though I'm experimenting with
verticals. The stitcher I'm using seems to like the horizontal
better; i.e., 4x3 ratio rather than a 3x4, but I'd like to get a
better perspective. I'd like a 20mm equivalent and no barrell. ;-)

I use a tripod and level the head for most panos, but I've done a
few handheld, and shot one off a soda can setting atop of a
barbeque pit. I am serious.

I'm just now working on linking the panos together with hotspots to
provide something like a virtual tour of campgrounds in the
Missouri Ozarks.

Whatta yah think?

http://ozarkcamper.org/

Right now I don't have a survey up, but would appreciate a response
if you visit the site through this board or directly to the above
email address.

1. Did the pano on the 1st page load?

2. If you followed the link to Marble Creek, were you able to load
and navigate through the hotspots?

3. Did you try any other panos from the list? Run? Load times?

I appreciate any interest and comments/critiques.

ms
 
Ron,

Thanks for your reply.

Perhaps this has to do with permissions or security settings. I've thought of a using a cover page with a java module running an animation and another running off a cgi script. It would be better if I could just isolate the cause and advise my visitors what settings the module requires.

I am reasonably sure that it is a client side problem, and I'm grateful for your input.

ms
RonM
Appreciate your willingness to assist me. I'm trying to figure out
if it's the server, dropped packets on a particular hop, or the
user side/browser.
Thank you for your help.

Are using IE/Netscape 4.0 or better?

Two other reports here in Saint Louis same as yours.

In IE, under the Tools menu, Options, Advanced, down to Microsoft VM:

Is Java console enabled?

Forget where it's at if you're using Netscape.

In any case, thanks again.

ms
Sorry, none of the panoramas loaded. Tried a bunch of them.

RonM
 

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