Don't hate me...but the Pen F is a fashion statement

and don't forget the various leather accessories.
Well, if Grandpa can still enjoy the "leather accessories" at age 70, then by all means let him enjoy! BTW, probably more than a few "grandpa's" on this forum who don't welcome being typecast.
This grandpa is waiting for his big 80, 6 years to go, maybe by then it will have the global shutter.

Regards....... Guy
Only a youngster myself, at 68. Expect a global shutter before I'm 70. Anyway, all of these cameras are so much better than my first OM-1, who's to complain?

Rich
We come from the era where cameras didn't have built in coupled meters and SLR lenses didn't have auto diaphragms......pre-sets prevailed....:-)

I remember the Pen F and FT and how the half frame size didn't thrill this dark roomer. The meter in the "T" wasn't coupled as I remember, making it awkward. The battle cry then was that an "in-camera" meter would never replace a hand held one! Today it is "Whats a hand held meter?"

Today's gimmick is tomorrow's must have feature...
 
Yes, you are correct. Life moves on. That said, I remember picking up my wife's father's Pen F and thinking what a great collectible camera. And then, on the other hand, I starting digitizing the film from my OM-1. Oh, what a nasty discovery! Life, indeed, moves on.

Rich
 
and don't forget the various leather accessories.
Well, if Grandpa can still enjoy the "leather accessories" at age 70, then by all means let him enjoy! BTW, probably more than a few "grandpa's" on this forum who don't welcome being typecast.
This grandpa is waiting for his big 80, 6 years to go, maybe by then it will have the global shutter.

Regards....... Guy
Only a youngster myself, at 68. Expect a global shutter before I'm 70. Anyway, all of these cameras are so much better than my first OM-1, who's to complain?

Rich
I am just a little older than you and I know about half of the M43 users are of this vintage.

What I also meant to say is that the camera is much sweeter if others pay it for you. 😄
 
and don't forget the various leather accessories.
Well, if Grandpa can still enjoy the "leather accessories" at age 70, then by all means let him enjoy! BTW, probably more than a few "grandpa's" on this forum who don't welcome being typecast.
This grandpa is waiting for his big 80, 6 years to go, maybe by then it will have the global shutter.

Regards....... Guy
Only a youngster myself, at 68. Expect a global shutter before I'm 70. Anyway, all of these cameras are so much better than my first OM-1, who's to complain?

Rich
I am just a little older than you and I know about half of the M43 users are of this vintage.

What I also meant to say is that the camera is much sweeter if others pay it for you. 😄

Sergey,

I'm a bit confused. Are you implying we don't pay our own way (for the the camera) or is there some other implication?

Rich
 
As cool as the Pen F is, I'm really quite disturbed at how it illustrates a current issue in photography. There are tons of new "photographers" that really are just interested in having a sexy camera in their hand and a classy leather bag hanging from their shoulder. They'd rather have a grainy filtered image than put in the work it takes to learn true skill.
And it doesn't take time to learn all those features?
The only reason the Pen F has a grain inducing setting is to simply make it easier for talent-less snap shot shooters to post an uninteresting picture on Instagram.
Or perhaps so people can capture a taste of a past era they've only heard about?
The Pen F costs $1,200 which is a ridiculous price to pay for a camera that isn't weather sealed and doesn't shoot 4k like another $1200 camera (GX8). But, with the current trend in photography, Olympus will certainly sell tons of units even at such a steep price tag.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a little retro styling (after all, I bought a silver GX7 instead of black for a reason)
Hmm, I dislike silver, all black is the way to go. And yet, wound up w a silver E-M5 rather than wait an extra week for the black, and surprise, same thing happened w my E-M1.
I just really despise the common "hipster" like style that I see all the time, and I hate to see big manufacturers disregarding performance and features simply because people will still buy a camera based on how old school it is.
OK, you diss the camera for the features it has, then diss it for not having features? Fault if for it's style and despair that people will buy it? Oly made it because they thought there was a a market for it. If it sells well they'll have more cash to invest in the E-M1/II and other future products... Why is that a bad thing?

Hey, at leat it's not jewel encrusted or gold plated or something that adds nothing to the function :-)

If you don't like the camera, don't look, there will be another one out soon enough... Not every camera must appeal to everyone. No hate here. Perhaps follow your own advice? Don't hate the camera or the company for making what they think will sell.
Art P
"I am a creature of contrast,
of light and shadow.
I live where the two play together,
I thrive on the conflict"
 
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It's true. It has nothing that is really new or really improved, apart from the obvious changes in shape. Even Robin Wong acknowledges that and he found the only thing new, the sensor, is just slightly better, ie if you blow up the images from other m43 camera and look hard for it.

However, isn't it good to have another choice? Many people buy very expensive things for their looks or because they look different, expensive and they feel good wearing them running shoes, clothing, ... We need the subsidy from those buyers to help Olympus pay for the real IQ improvement that we want to see in the E-M1 etc. So, Hush, hush, ... let the suckers buy this F, OK?
 
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"Sorry Charlie...We want Tuna that tastes good , not Tuna with good taste".

Simple -

I want a very good camera with a very good sensor that will utilize my very good glass, and none of the gimmick bloated software and a myriad of control dials and levers. I manipulate my files in a software program that allows me to fully control a final image that I create from a well taken file, not what shortcut, in camera processing does!
But not everyone wants to dedicate computer time to processing files after the fact, would you deny them the ability to generate images that they want because you prefer a different method?

I prefer processing in post simply because I don't like fiddling w the camera before taking a shot, but I don't begrudge the people that want to spend extra time before the click to get the results they want OOC. Besides, the F still offers RAW.
With the state of the camera industry today and Olympus's financial status I have to ask how they can continue to put out models like this, playing upon nostalgia, fashion.
If not enough people are buying utilitarian cameras, building one that appeals to other markets makes sense. A car maker may put three body styles on the same base. Different style for different buyers = more volume and more sales for little extra R&D
 
I am definitely buying one so i can be cool, and annoy you.
 
Have you handled it? It feels superb and very professional.

Nick
 
I don't really see how a camera that is tiny, jaw dropping beautiful, capable of taking great pictures, has great on-board processing, with more control dials than my GH4 is to be dismissed as a fashion statement. Yes, it's a fashion statement, and also a great camera. It's proof that people can make something that functions and looks good.
 
As cool as the Pen F is, I'm really quite disturbed at how it illustrates a current issue in photography. There are tons of new "photographers" that really are just interested in having a sexy camera in their hand and a classy leather bag hanging from their shoulder. They'd rather have a grainy filtered image than put in the work it takes to learn true skill.

The only reason the Pen F has a grain inducing setting is to simply make it easier for talent-less snap shot shooters to post an uninteresting picture on Instagram. The Pen F costs $1,200 which is a ridiculous price to pay for a camera that isn't weather sealed and doesn't shoot 4k like another $1200 camera (GX8). But, with the current trend in photography, Olympus will certainly sell tons of units even at such a steep price tag.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a little retro styling (after all, I bought a silver GX7 instead of black for a reason) I just really despise the common "hipster" like style that I see all the time, and I hate to see big manufacturers disregarding performance and features simply because people will still buy a camera based on how old school it is.
 
As I mentioned in another post, there are not enough of the new Pen-F camera bodies to make me hip. And as far as me as a fashion statement, well, that is impossible. :-)

As for this posting, it is anything but something to take seriously, hence my comment above.
 
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As cool as the Pen F is, I'm really quite disturbed at how it illustrates a current issue in photography. There are tons of new "photographers" that really are just interested in having a sexy camera in their hand and a classy leather bag hanging from their shoulder. They'd rather have a grainy filtered image than put in the work it takes to learn true skill.

The only reason the Pen F has a grain inducing setting is to simply make it easier for talent-less snap shot shooters to post an uninteresting picture on Instagram. The Pen F costs $1,200 which is a ridiculous price to pay for a camera that isn't weather sealed and doesn't shoot 4k like another $1200 camera (GX8). But, with the current trend in photography, Olympus will certainly sell tons of units even at such a steep price tag.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a little retro styling (after all, I bought a silver GX7 instead of black for a reason) I just really despise the common "hipster" like style that I see all the time, and I hate to see big manufacturers disregarding performance and features simply because people will still buy a camera based on how old school it is.
 
Ha ha.

Nice camera. Don't hate the pen F because it is stylish. I'm glad m43 is producing the high end right now. Mute weather sealed lenses and EM1 II please!
 
All cars today are good

All watches are good

All cameras are good

Why not choose a better looking car?

A better looking watch?

A better looking camera?

It's way wiser than choosing an ugly one IMHO

(I can think of many in the MFT lineup but don't want to stir the fanboys club ;-) )

Cheers,
 
and don't forget the various leather accessories.
Well, if Grandpa can still enjoy the "leather accessories" at age 70, then by all means let him enjoy! BTW, probably more than a few "grandpa's" on this forum who don't welcome being typecast.
This grandpa is waiting for his big 80, 6 years to go, maybe by then it will have the global shutter.

Regards....... Guy
Only a youngster myself, at 68. Expect a global shutter before I'm 70. Anyway, all of these cameras are so much better than my first OM-1, who's to complain?

Rich
I am just a little older than you and I know about half of the M43 users are of this vintage.

What I also meant to say is that the camera is much sweeter if others pay it for you. 😄
Sergey,

I'm a bit confused. Are you implying we don't pay our own way (for the the camera) or is there some other implication?

Rich
Rich,
I think Sergey started this sub-line as a "Perfect Present for...." Now, there are some of us that do end up paying for our presents received......I'm thinking of the guitar that I got for Christmas.......:-)......and it cost more than this Pen F thingy.
 
A cute or unique camera may be an asset to someone doing street portraits... Where folks may shy away from a Canikon w a big zoom, they may be more willing to pose for that retro looking camera w the little prime. Anything that helps get the shot is a good thing, no?
 

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