Buy now a 760D or wait for the upcoming model?

junk1 said:

Yep, same sensor. I think the 760 is worth $100 more. Both are overpriced though.

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In the UK with the winter promotion the 760D was over 25% more expensive than the 750D - and for my purposes the 750D seemed very well priced.

Big upgrade over my previous Rebel of only a few years ago - especially in AF and high ISO performance.

I still use the 450d/XSi - 12MP and no movies. The 24MP sensor finally seems like a noticeable improvement. If I stay with Canon, I'll likely want to replace the kit lens and 55-250 with the STM versions. I also have the 10-22 (I like it a lot), which is why I'm tempted to stay with Canon.

junk1 said:

Yep, same sensor. I think the 760 is worth $100 more. Both are overpriced though.

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And there are people out there thinking you are overpriced. Everyone wants great stuff for Pocket change.

I am overpriced.

Canon's big advantage is the phase detectors and movie focusing, otherwise they are a joke compared to Nikon 3300/5500/7200 due to the Sony sensors. Best Buy advertised the 5500 for less than the 750!

RedFox88 said:

junk1 said:

Yep, same sensor. I think the 760 is worth $100 more. Both are overpriced though.

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And there are people out there thinking you are overpriced. Everyone wants great stuff for Pocket change.

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junk1 said:

Canon's big advantage is the phase detectors and movie focusing, otherwise they are a joke compared to Nikon 3300/5500/7200 due to the Sony sensors.

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So Nikon cameras are joke compared to Canon due to their sensors... yeah, that seems like a fair and balanced assessment.

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whakapu said:

the 70D is already a better general purpose camera than the 7DII.

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I agree, as long as you get one that accurately focuses with wide-aperture lenses and meters bounced flash correctly.

whakapu said:

The 7DII is a specialty camera. Canon has clearly conceived it as the APS-C body for the pro sports/wildlife shooter who wants a second body for their 1DX and might like the longer reach.

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It would interesting to know what percentage of 7D II buyers are professional photographers. I'm sure Canon took into account their enthusiastic amateur clients during the product planning and development.

whakapu said:

They no doubt pick up plenty of bonus sales from people who buy it just because it has a nominally higher model designation than other APS-C models

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I expect there are many more sales to amateur enthusiasts who find it the best fit for their requirements.

whakapu said:

but, really, most people who shoot a bit of everything would be better served by a 70D or even a 760D.

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I agree, especially if they intend to shoot video (flippy touch monitor is definitely the way to go for that).

whakapu said:

Heavy,

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True.

whakapu said:

expensive,

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But good value for the level of performance.

whakapu said:

(slower single shot AF as tested by IR than 70D due to ridiculously complex focusing algorithm),

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Your adjectives reveal your prejudice.

IR's tests are interesting to read. They don't mention the setting they used for One-Shot AF release priority on the 7D II, so it would be interesting to see what a difference the two cases would make to their "Full Autofocus Single-point (center) AF" test. The 70D doesn't have a setting for that, so I presume it would operate with "Release" (rather than "Focus") priority in that test, which could account for a significant difference. I can't recall any 7D II owner complaining about One-Shot shutter lag, or saying they would willingly trade some focus accuracy for a shorter lag.

The 7D II is faster than the 70D in the IR reviews for things like power-on to first shot, buffer clearing, prefocussed shutter response, and Live View AF, so it's hardly credible to dis it based on just one aspect of performance.

It seem like Canon were able to make the 70D PD AF a little faster than the 7D in many aspects. That could be due to improvements in various things, but I wonder if it does reflect a compromise to achieve more responsiveness, and whether that has anything to do with the gross inaccuracy some units have with wide-aperture lenses.

whakapu said:

no touch screen, no wifi, indistinguishable image quality from 70D (despite Canon's claims that it's an upgraded sensor), probably slightly inferior image quality to 760D.

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The 7D II raw shots look cleaner to me at high ISO in DPR's studio scene comparison, and that's what we're finding with real world high ISO shots - they clean up very nicely compared to shots from other Canon crop bodies (though it's such an insignificant factor in the impact of an image that no-one should base their purchase decisions on such things). If IQ is a major priority for your DSLR you should be looking at full-frame.

whakapu said:

Seriously, if I was offered the choice for free of any of the 3 bodies mentioned the 7DII would be the last one I'd choose, unless I was also offered a job shooting sport. Then it would be the first choice.

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Sure, it's a very personal thing. The 7D II is also a good choice if you're shooting things like wildlife with long lenses, or birds in flight, for your own pleasure or non-professional work, and don't need the flippy touch monitor.