Olympus C750

jeff kay wrote:
Have anyone here heard of of Hyperfocus?

Set focal length 6.3mm
Set aperture piority to f5.6
Set subject distance manually to 5ft.
The DOP will be from 2.4ft (near distance) of your subject to
infinity.
Save it to custom setting and snap away without anymore adjustment.
Shutter lag is at minimum (metering only as focus is taken care of)

Try this before returning your C750!!
I didn't know it was called as such. This was how I got sharp
photos with a 28-85mm. I relied on the DOF to save me on the
incacurrate focus. And indeed in most instances, my problem was not
focus, but blurr from the movement of my subject (runners) due to
slow shutter speeds in less ideal light. But in good light, I got
away with it. But this was not with an Oly camera but a Kodak. But
in principle this should work equally with any other camera.

But 6.3mm is only 38mm equiv to 35mm. I have already done quite
well with 85mm at 3.5 or whereabouts. Can one make adjustments and
go say 150mm or 200mm equivalent focus 20-30ft out manually to get
a deeper DOF? Theoretically it should. Maybe not a sharp focus from
30 ft to infinity, but I would definitely hit the subject sharp
from 30ft to maybe 40ft. And if my aperture is around 5.6, I might
even get it further out.

Most events are at around 30-40ft, 50 ft at the most. And if one
can keep onces equiv focal length at 4-5.6, then I presume, it's
smarter to manually focus then. A DOF of at least 10ft to the back
of a focus point is enough to get our subject in focus for many a
shots except for those where movement is very, very fast, or
towards the camera. The shutter trip lag, at least in the c-740
I've used is very quick to capture the image I am sure.

I am a bit busy now and it is raining here in the afternoons for me
to test it with a c-750. Has anybody the time to try this out? A
good distance would be 40 feet manual focus at 250mm, and we change
the aperture from the lowest to around 6.3 and see how deep the
focus range is.

If such modfications/workaround are possible, then soccer,
baseball, basketball, track, volleyball games and some activities,
can be photographed in confidence if we know our DOF range. One can
set on manual a prefocus on estimated distance (the farther the
better for greater DOF) to get more or less sharp pictures and
increase the chance of capturing the moment. Of course the higher
the aperture will give one more DOF giving one more lattitude.

IF this works out, then we have found a way to work around with a
problem instead of merely complaining about it. Anybody has the
time to check this out?

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  • Caterpillar
focal length 150mm (24.9mm)
aperture f4
Manually focus at 100ft
DOF will be from 50.4ft to 5684ft.

focal length 200mm (33mm)
aperture f4
Manually focus at 150ft
DOF will be from 81ft to 932ft

Hyperfocal distance will not be meaningful at 63mm or 380mm

heaming
 
focal length 150mm (24.9mm)
aperture f4
Manually focus at 100ft
DOF will be from 50.4ft to 5684ft.

focal length 200mm (33mm)
aperture f4
Manually focus at 150ft
DOF will be from 81ft to 932ft

Hyperfocal distance will not be meaningful at 63mm or 380mm
Goodness gracious, heaming! I was only asking for a DOF of 10-20 feet and you gave me 900ft! Well, that's good news, then. Maybe this will solve that focus delay and OOF shots now. Just prefocus.

BTW, what's your calculator for this? How did you get these figures. Maybe you can share it with us, so we will know for ourselves the actual DOF we can have based on focus distance, focal length, and aperture..

And, oh, thanks for this post! :-)
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  • Caterpillar
 
focal length 150mm (24.9mm)
aperture f4
Manually focus at 100ft
DOF will be from 50.4ft to 5684ft.

focal length 200mm (33mm)
aperture f4
Manually focus at 150ft
DOF will be from 81ft to 932ft

Hyperfocal distance will not be meaningful at 63mm or 380mm
Goodness gracious, heaming! I was only asking for a DOF of 10-20
feet and you gave me 900ft! Well, that's good news, then. Maybe
this will solve that focus delay and OOF shots now. Just prefocus.

BTW, what's your calculator for this? How did you get these
figures. Maybe you can share it with us, so we will know for
ourselves the actual DOF we can have based on focus distance, focal
length, and aperture..

And, oh, thanks for this post! :-)
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  • Caterpillar
Hi Caterpillar,

Below is the link to the DOF calculator. Sorry for not posting the link earlier as I was searching for the web page. You can download this calculator by saving this link and work with the calculator offline. The calculator selections do not incl. C750 but C730 is in it. Both of these cameras are similar with same focal length and f stop.

Hope this is useful.

http://dfleming.ameranet.com/dofjs.html

heaming
 
Hi Caterpillar,

Below is the link to the DOF calculator. Sorry for not posting the
link earlier as I was searching for the web page. You can download
this calculator by saving this link and work with the calculator
offline. The calculator selections do not incl. C750 but C730 is in
it. Both of these cameras are similar with same focal length and f
stop.

Hope this is useful.

http://dfleming.ameranet.com/dofjs.html

heaming
Thanks hearming, very helpful.

marko
 
Well, I do love the camera, and I do highly recommend it, but since I havent tried other cameras, or had a chance to do serious comparisons its not a fair assesment. There very well may be better cameras out there, but you really cant tell after 5 minutes in a store.

Personally, I have had problems focusing in lower light and especially on foggy, or grey skied days. If the camera doesnt see lines to focus on, it cant. I was trying to take a picture of some canadian geese flying just above the water last week, but since the horizon was so grey, the camera would not focus. By the time I manually focused it was too late.

And I definitely find a substantially higher amount of noise in lower light pictures.

Ive also had a slight problem with the zoom. Ive found that if you push the button half way down and get the camera focusing on a subject, but then notice something else you want to quickly get a picture of, you need to take your finger OFF the button and freeze until the camera stops focusing. If you move, the camera will continue trying to focus and will not let you zoom until it either gets focus, or decides to stop trying. Ive missed a few shots because of that.

BUT, having said that (and anything else negative Ive said in here) I still love the camera and hope it will last me 4-5 years (until Ive paid for it!!!). Im extremely impressed with it overall.

But like always, people generally talk about the problems more than things they're happy about. Thats ok though. I WANT to know about all the problems before I spend this munch money on something. Not everything that someone else dislikes will be a problem for me. You'll never find a perfect camera and you have to weigh all the pros and cons to make a good decision. And the truth is, you'll NEVER see any mention of a problem in the ads, or any printed material provided by the manufacturer so this is the best place to find that information. I would rather just KNOW about the negatives before I buy, than to not know at all. Other cameras have negatives too! (whoops, no pun intended there!!)

Scott

http://www.scottfromcanada.com
I can foucs and take photos in low light, which means I have an
outstanding camera, and wouldnt trade it for anything (ok maybe a
DSLR, but that would be it).
 
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

I could just zoom all the way out and set my focus to infinity, but then I will have to crop and zoom in on my pictures and I will detail. Like taking a picture of an entire baseball field and then trying to get a 8x10 of the first baseman.

I took pictures at full 10x zoom of the first baseman (from behind home plate) and when I examined the file later, there wasn't a lot of detail (in the face). I'm not sure if that's a 4mp thing, or a problem was detail at full zoom. I've taken close up shots of flowers that I could zoom way in on and still had details.
Have anyone here heard of of Hyperfocus?

Set focal length 6.3mm
Set aperture piority to f5.6
Set subject distance manually to 5ft.
The DOP will be from 2.4ft (near distance) of your subject to
infinity.
Save it to custom setting and snap away without anymore adjustment.
Shutter lag is at minimum (metering only as focus is taken care of)
 
This is the answer to the question I have been asking.

I thought it was already established with digital still cams that pre focus in sport/action situations is a requirement (especially long zooms)?

Personally i have been trying to do this but did not know the key, now I have the key Im going to save a pre focus every situation I can anticipate.
 
Hi Platinum,

I am afraid I was one of those who initiated all the ramping about
C750 here. I am not happy about many posts that followed. My post
was to give MY subjective but first-hand experience. Read it, take
note of things to check which you could otherwise miss, but take
your decision yourself. That is how I expected people to see it.

I am glad you are happy with your camera. Use it, post your pictures!
Igor,

You helped educate us on some of the limitations of the camera and explained why it is not the best camera for you. Taking pictures in the Arizona desert is a little different than your situation. By the way, I too have had trouble focusing at times (mixed shade in a hummingbird aviary), but I realized from your posts that it may not be me or a defective camera -just the limitations of the camera. Thanks for teaching us about the camera.

Desert Rat
 
This is the answer to the question I have been asking.

I thought it was already established with digital still cams that
pre focus in sport/action situations is a requirement (especially
long zooms)?

Personally i have been trying to do this but did not know the key,
now I have the key Im going to save a pre focus every situation I
can anticipate.
It is best to make and print a table of your favorite DOF settings and carry it around for reference as you can only set 4 custom settings in your camera.
 
Henry

this is sort of OT, but can I just say that your "coming home" picture is wonderful. Its (and I say this in admiration not cricticism) almost a textbook 'rule of thirds' composition, the colours (cat, bag/path, wall) balance each other - well done. I saw it yesterday and kept thinking about how well composed it was.

ctd
 

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