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I recently bought a used NX300 that I like, mainly because of the 30mm f2 that keeps the whole package fairly pocketable. I generally upgrade my equipment by selling off my old stuff while it still has some decent resale value and add minimal funds to purchase newer equipment. My dilemma is this: I am not heavily invested in NX, having the NX300, 30mm f2, and Rokinon 12mm f2, but I would like to add additional lenses. I am hesitant to invest further in the system if it is going to be a dead end, but I still have a little room to upgrade my equipment within the NX system.

My initial reaction is to sell off my gear and reinvest in another system, but maybe that's overreacting? What are the rest of you in a similar situation doing (that situation being not heavily invested in the system).
 
TillmanB said:
I recently bought a used NX300 that I like, mainly because of the 30mm f2 that keeps the whole package fairly pocketable. I generally upgrade my equipment by selling off my old stuff while it still has some decent resale value and add minimal funds to purchase newer equipment. My dilemma is this: I am not heavily invested in NX, having the NX300, 30mm f2, and Rokinon 12mm f2, but I would like to add additional lenses. I am hesitant to invest further in the system if it is going to be a dead end, but I still have a little room to upgrade my equipment within the NX system.

My initial reaction is to sell off my gear and reinvest in another system, but maybe that's overreacting? What are the rest of you in a similar situation doing (that situation being not heavily invested in the system).
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Tough call since your not heavily invested yet. My thoughts are that I am staying. I can't get near the quality for what I have invested. I am in for $1500 total for a gently used NX1 and 16-50 2.0-2.8 S. I'll pick up a 50-150 some day if I can get it at the right price. Otherwise used bodies will come up for sale for many years to come.
 
I'd switch since you aren't heavily invested, sell what you've got asap when they still worth a lil and move on. (btw I admire your bravery of getting that Rok 12 in NX mount. I thought about the same lens but figured the demand on that lens is close to none which to me is dead money)
 
mg_k said:
I'd switch since you aren't heavily invested, sell what you've got asap when they still worth a lil and move on. (btw I admire your bravery of getting that Rok 12 in NX mount. I thought about the same lens but figured the demand on that lens is close to none which to me is dead money)
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I'm holding on to mine for a while. A NX 1 will be an upgrade for me. And if the price drops to a comfortable place I'll grab one. Based on Nikon's announcement there is couple more years before its outdated. So if the price drops, cool. If not cool, it would mean the NX line held its value. But this is coming from a hobbyist.
 
I'm kind of in the same boat.

I just pickjed up a slightly used NX1/16-50 S/ NX1 battery Grip for $1675

I am thinking about adding the 50-150 for $1000 used of course, now I have no idea what to do.

It really is a nice piece of equipment. Oh yeah the new D500 at 10FPS is for sure I nice camera for shooting sports with a 200 image raw buffer wow... Video I think the NX1 is still tops in this price range, basically the reason why I jumped on board.

What's ironic for me I am invested in 2 systems which have a very uncertain future, Samsun and Sony A Mount. I tried all the Sony A7 series stuff, just to small for me
 
mg_k said:
I'd switch since you aren't heavily invested, sell what you've got asap when they still worth a lil and move on. (btw I admire your bravery of getting that Rok 12 in NX mount. I thought about the same lens but figured the demand on that lens is close to none which to me is dead money)
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TillmanB said:
I recently bought a used NX300 that I like, mainly because of the 30mm f2 that keeps the whole package fairly pocketable. I generally upgrade my equipment by selling off my old stuff while it still has some decent resale value and add minimal funds to purchase newer equipment. My dilemma is this: I am not heavily invested in NX, having the NX300, 30mm f2, and Rokinon 12mm f2, but I would like to add additional lenses. I am hesitant to invest further in the system if it is going to be a dead end, but I still have a little room to upgrade my equipment within the NX system.

My initial reaction is to sell off my gear and reinvest in another system, but maybe that's overreacting? What are the rest of you in a similar situation doing (that situation being not heavily invested in the system).
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Can you see my gear list? but I am thinking about moving to another CSC system, maybe Sony or Fuji.

Samsung 85mm 1.4 is good but Samsung is bad. So sad!
 
TillmanB said:
I recently bought a used NX300 that I like, mainly because of the 30mm f2 that keeps the whole package fairly pocketable. I generally upgrade my equipment by selling off my old stuff while it still has some decent resale value and add minimal funds to purchase newer equipment. My dilemma is this: I am not heavily invested in NX, having the NX300, 30mm f2, and Rokinon 12mm f2, but I would like to add additional lenses. I am hesitant to invest further in the system if it is going to be a dead end, but I still have a little room to upgrade my equipment within the NX system.

My initial reaction is to sell off my gear and reinvest in another system, but maybe that's overreacting? What are the rest of you in a similar situation doing (that situation being not heavily invested in the system).
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How much money did you spend for the NX300? And what else can you get with similar money?
I am feeling sorry for selling mine, but I went for the newer NXs that it seems that will be near or in the top, until something dramatic happens (new Sony APS-C with IBIS and 4K actually, this is the only croped camera than can go above NX).
Thankfully, there are too many options for you, check your needs and budget and happy shopping.
 
TillmanB said:
I recently bought a used NX300 that I like, mainly because of the 30mm f2 that keeps the whole package fairly pocketable. I generally upgrade my equipment by selling off my old stuff while it still has some decent resale value and add minimal funds to purchase newer equipment. My dilemma is this: I am not heavily invested in NX, having the NX300, 30mm f2, and Rokinon 12mm f2, but I would like to add additional lenses. I am hesitant to invest further in the system if it is going to be a dead end, but I still have a little room to upgrade my equipment within the NX system.

My initial reaction is to sell off my gear and reinvest in another system, but maybe that's overreacting? What are the rest of you in a similar situation doing (that situation being not heavily invested in the system).
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what lens do you wish to add to your nx300? does Samsung or rokinon/samyang make any lens you want for it? if you do purchase additional lens for it they will have little to no value down the road... personally i didn't buy the stuff to resell it.. i didn't plan on Samsung bowing out so soon either so i do feel a bit cheated. i am pretty heavily invested in the NX line... it will last me the next 3 years at least..

if i were in your shoes and hadn't invested heavily id probably sell and get what you can out of it..

BTW the Rokinon /Samyang 12 mm is a great lens, i have hardly taken it off my NX1 since i got it last November..https://flic.kr/s/aHskqFmkts
 
In your position I'd be inclined to bail out.

Personally I'm keeping the 50-150S and the 60mm macro for use with NX, and I'm actually considering getting a second hand NX1. That will keep those going for a few years, and the 50-150 is not a lens I want to give up.

But for the rest, I'm shifting over to Micro Four Thirds (helped by a good deal on a couple of the Panasonic Leica primes a couple of weeks ago). Based on my luck, I expect Panasonic will drop out of the market next :-)
 
Our Samsung gear will not stop working - and that does bring up a good question. In the event our gear needs repair, who do we send it to? Will Samsung continue to support those who currently own their cameras (whether still under warranty or paid repair services)? That's really a biggie of a question.

But in the meantime, most of our gear will continue to function so posting here will still occur? But eventually, after one or two years, this forum will go the way that the Konica Minolta forum currently stands - that is, one post every few days or so. It's a shame really.

For those of us who have other brand gear, our worlds didn't come to an end with Samsung's utterly classless way of going about their withdrawal from the camera market. I look forward to all of the future Micro 43 offerings, the Fuji X offerings, and future Canon M offerings. So for me personally, there's lots to look forward to. That new Nikon D500 really has me chompin' at the bits. May have to sell some gear (or the misses) in order to line up to get one in the future.

But one thing is for sure, my admiration for the Samsung way of renderings colors will be up there and I'll continue to use my NX300, NX500 and EX2F until they break - which I hope will not be any time soon.

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Bernd (Ben) W. Herrmann
North Carolina, USA
 
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simontramper said:
If the NX line is dead then I will buy a second NX1 and mothball it.
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I have done the same thing - in my case the NX500 is an amazing camera for me, so I managed to get a very good deal on another new one to use/keep in reserve. I have the selection of NX lenses I want and need plus the Rokinon 12mm; all of which I have already gotten great value from with lots of usage. Most of them I have owned for quite a while.

As good as the NX500 sensor, lenses and ergonomics are for me, I don't see anything surpassing it for some time to come. I feel like I will probably get more value out of this setup than any past or future system I have owned or will ever own.
 
I have all the systems but Samsung is my smallest. I've always suspected that Samsung may not stay the course but I do like the Samsung design elements and I did purchase the NX1 and 50-150 f2.8 for sports. I have other systems for sports but IMHO it is the best cropped sports body for me until the D500 (speculation from me). Best for me, because i felt that it was the easiest, simplest tool for capturing action.

Now that it is likely that Samsung will exit the mirrorless market at some point, I'll just use it more often and in a few years I'll probably get a D500s, unless Sony trumps Nikon in a few years and release the equivalent of what will be the NX2.

I have the Canon 1dmk2,mk3, and mk4. Pictures from the mk2 at 8mp are still good enough for me so we're in the Golden Age of photography even if the market for "large" system cameras are shrinking.
 
First of all, I dont think Samsung is abandoning NX, at least not just be the lack of announcement at CES. CES is not about camera, and Samsung has much bigger things to tout at this show.

Secondly, why would you need to upgrade? Seems like if Samsung never introduces a new model, you still will have an upgrade path to NX500 and NX1 when the time comes. There is a decent set of lenses already available (like the 30mm you have), so it is not like you will run out of options anytime soon.

I personally had been torn between NX500 and A6000 but having tried both, there is no question that NX500 is better, it is a pleasure to use (fast and very responsive) and has better IQ then Sony. This might change when Sony introduces A6100, but even then there is no equivalent of Samsung prime and S zooms in Sony system and there is unlikely to be (as they will focus on full frame lenses).

I think Samsung users are well set for another 12-24 month without any new product release from Samsung (Firmware updates are different).
 
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Sell it. If you like compact, your only possibility is m43 (gx7 with 20/1.7 is about equivalent, you lose resolution but get evf, etc).

I just can't find comparable set in other systems (for same money) so I'll just wait for nx500 at the right price.
 
here is the deal. When a company switches mounts (say as Canon or Minolta in the 70s and 80s) that doesn't make what you have less useful.




So if you have been using the system waiting for a full lens line up.. ok sell off and invest in a system that will have the lens' you want.

Mirrorless was a risk all the way through minus MFT it was not a sure thing that any of the Cameras would stick around. My NX1 isn't suddenly crappy. It still takes good pictures. I had no plans on buying any lens' that don't currently exist. I might be motivated to try to pick up a 85mm from Rokinon, beyond that I'm not looked for much. Or I'll watch for deals and maybe pick up a good lens for cheap.




When the time comes I'll look at investing in a new system. Till then my NX1 is working fine, as is my NX20. Why would I sell perfectly good gear that I'm still using.. at a loss and put more money in.. just to buy the same gear in another brand.
 
I'm quite torn on the issue. I hate to take a heavy loss on the resale ability of my equipment, yet on the other hand, I could look at it from the standpoint that when I'm done with it, I'll give one of my kids a nice camera that will have far more value to them than to the resale market. I mainly want to add the standard 50-200mm zoom (I know, quite pedestrian in comparison to S lenses, but it's what I can afford) so if I bought a used one I probably wouldn't be much further in.

Before all the hubbub I had thought that I might upgrade to the NX500 for a little more low light performance in the next year or so, never really had an NX1 in my sights as I don't see them being within my budget for some time. There is also the thought that if I stick with NX, I can pick up some more lenses and upgrade my camera body for a lot less when the prices drop out, assuming Samsung is truly out without so much as a whimper or a wave, which I'm sure will come when current stocks are sold out.

Overall, here's where I stand.

Used NX300 w/45mm 3d lens + external charger, extra battery, misc accessories - paid $350

Sold the 45mm for $240

30mm f/2 - paid $160

12mm f/2 - paid $260

So I'm in at about $530

Now, here's what I figure I can get for everything

NX300 body with accessories including lightroom - $160

30mm f/2 - $130 (the trim ring on the front of the lens has a little ding in it)

12mm f/2 - $240

so that puts me at around...$530

Not too bad, really, but assuming it all goes to ebay, that takes about a 10% cut out of things so then I'm down to $477 to reinvest in an entirely different system. Let's say hypothetically that in a year the value of everything I have drops 20% from current prices, then I'm looking at $424, and with the 10% ebay cut I would walk away with $382, which is enough for a decent used camera body, sans lenses. Not really what anyone would consider "Getting ahead".

When I break it all down like this and I consider the hassle of trying to sell everything for top dollar and finding good deals on whatever new system I get and trying to get equivalent lenses, it sounds like a major pain in the ass and honestly, $477 isn't going to go too far towards getting equipment that will match what I can do now for what I've already invested. The only advantage would be that new equipment (or new to me) would have more of a future, theoretically.
 
otto k said:
Sell it. If you like compact, your only possibility is m43 (gx7 with 20/1.7 is about equivalent, you lose resolution but get evf, etc).

I just can't find comparable set in other systems (for same money) so I'll just wait for nx500 at the right price.
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The thing that makes me shy away from m4/3 is that even with a Samyang 12mm, it's the same field of view as the wide end of the 16-50mm kit lens for NX, and to go wider requires a pretty heavy investment in either the Panny 7-14 or Olympus 9-18, or a more affordable Samyang 8mm fisheye and defishing in pp. All less desirable to me.
 
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