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(I initially posted this in the beginners' forum, and thanks to those who kindly replied, but has anybody actually used the combination of D3300 + Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 Contemporary lens? Any other comments apart from the compatibility issue would of course be welcome. I have e-mailed Sigma but there was no response :-( )

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Hi all,

Can somebody give a clear and unambiguous answer as to whether the latest Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 "Contemporary" lens is fully compatible with a Nikon D3300, or does it show the infamous "scroll bug"? Different internet posters seem to have different opinions and the Sigma lens compatibility web page http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lens-resources/dc-lens-compatability-chartvery unhelpfully doesn't list the D3300. This page cryptically suggests that the problems with some cameras such as the D5300 can be corrected with a firmware update: is this done via the USB Dock thingy or do you have to send the lens to a service centre?

I could possibly live with the scrolling bug but I don't like the idea of OS always being on and greatly shortening the battery lifetime. If the lens does have this bug when used with a D3300, did anybody get it fixed via a firmware update?

Apologies if this has been answered in the Nikon DX forum, but I couldn't find it there.

Many thanks and season's greetings wherever you may be,

Bill

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Bill Harrison said:
(I initially posted this in the beginners' forum, and thanks to those who kindly replied, but has anybody actually used the combination of D3300 + Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 Contemporary lens? Any other comments apart from the compatibility issue would of course be welcome. I have e-mailed Sigma but there was no response :-( )

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Hi all,

Can somebody give a clear and unambiguous answer as to whether the latest Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 "Contemporary" lens is fully compatible with a Nikon D3300, or does it show the infamous "scroll bug"? Different internet posters seem to have different opinions and the Sigma lens compatibility web page http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lens-resources/dc-lens-compatability-chartvery unhelpfully doesn't list the D3300. This page cryptically suggests that the problems with some cameras such as the D5300 can be corrected with a firmware update: is this done via the USB Dock thingy or do you have to send the lens to a service centre?

I could possibly live with the scrolling bug but I don't like the idea of OS always being on and greatly shortening the battery lifetime. If the lens does have this bug when used with a D3300, did anybody get it fixed via a firmware update?

Apologies if this has been answered in the Nikon DX forum, but I couldn't find it there.

Many thanks and season's greetings wherever you may be,

Bill

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So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
 
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tagger2 said:
I have that lens on a D7000 with no trouble at all. Love the lens tack sharp.
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Hi.

Are you sure?

Doesn't the "C"-lens give you a minute (+ the set in menu) delay from cutting off the metering?

My non-"C" gives that on my D7000 - it's really a "non-problem" to me, but it's there - and would be nice if solved.

BirgerH.
 
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin
 
mjevans said:
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin

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Ahrr.. yes. But it has to be returned unused - and if the package is sealed, it must not be broken. If it's packed in sealed protection plastic - it must not be unpacked.

The European internet right of withdrawal is a right to cancel an order - not a right to return an item, that you don't like or doesn't suit you, unless the seller promises you something else. It's not a "trying" period.

BirgerH.
 
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mjevans said:
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_john_evans/
https://plus.google.com/+MartinEvansJ/photos
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Ahrr.. yes. But it has to be returned unused - and if the package is sealed, it must not be broken. If it's packed in sealed protection plastic - it must not be unpacked.

The European internet right of withdrawal is a right to cancel an order - not a right to return an item, that you don't like or doesn't suit you, unless the seller promises you something else. It's not a "trying" period.

BirgerH.
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Yep the US return polices are SUPER liberal and nice. Amazon, B&H eBay and Adorama are also in the ~30 days no questions asked thing (eBay is 14 days). It is pretty common for internet purchases and in-store purchases everywhere here in the US.

You must repackage with all items and as you received it. But again if you find it to be defective I am sure they will take returns. Just need to check your store policy.

Whether you agree or not - it is a high level of protection for buyers. A policy that gets them sales at the end of the day. So don't fuss at it too much, it is a smart policy for both.

Mike
 
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pda4you said:
BirgerH said:
mjevans said:
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin

--
https://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_john_evans/
https://plus.google.com/+MartinEvansJ/photos
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Ahrr.. yes. But it has to be returned unused - and if the package is sealed, it must not be broken. If it's packed in sealed protection plastic - it must not be unpacked.

The European internet right of withdrawal is a right to cancel an order - not a right to return an item, that you don't like or doesn't suit you, unless the seller promises you something else. It's not a "trying" period.

BirgerH.
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Yep the US return polices are SUPER liberal and nice. Amazon, B&H eBay and Adorama are also in the ~30 days no questions asked thing (eBay is 14 days). It is pretty common for internet purchases and in-store purchases everywhere here in the US.

You must repackage with all items and as you received it. But again if you find it to be defective I am sure they will take returns. Just need to check your store policy.

Whether you agree or not - it is a high level of protection for buyers. A policy that gets them sales at the end of the day. So don't fuss at it too much, it is a smart policy for both.

Mike
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I think you did misunderstand me.

The European law, that was mentioned, and that gives you 14 days of withdrawal right when dealing on the internet has nothing to do with the warranty.

In Europe a deal is a deal - and bought is bought - there's no right of regret - except when dealing on the net. In that case you have 14 days of cancelling the order and send the item back "as send to you".

If an item is defective you can have it repaired on warranty - but as basis, there's no right of return, refund or exchange - neither when bought on internet.

I wasn't speaking about policy - smart or not - only that UK law was not giving the buyer the right to send back an used item. The sellers can/might have better conditions than the law - which I said too - most reputable sellers have.

BirgerH.
 
BirgerH said:
I wasn't speaking about policy - smart or not - only that UK law was not giving the buyer the right to send back an used item. The sellers can/might have better conditions than the law - which I said too - most reputable sellers have.

BirgerH.
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Tone to me indicates otherwise but tone is hard to determine on the internet. I will take it at misread, apologies. :)

Mike
 
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pda4you said:
BirgerH said:
I wasn't speaking about policy - smart or not - only that UK law was not giving the buyer the right to send back an used item. The sellers can/might have better conditions than the law - which I said too - most reputable sellers have.

BirgerH.
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Tone to me indicates otherwise but tone is hard to determine on the internet. I will take it at misread, apologies. :)

Mike
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Yeah - it wasn't - just a warning, that the law is not as said :-)

BirgerH.
 
BirgerH said:
pda4you said:
BirgerH said:
mjevans said:
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin
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I have it on a d7100 and it has a problem when you try to scroll the image on the LCD screen. Otherwise the lens is ok, AF is accurate, useful zoom range. It is smaller (and prettier if that matters) than the 18-105 kit lens. I find the edges a bit soft though.
 
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I have it on a d7100 and it has a problem when you try to scroll the image on the LCD screen. Otherwise the lens is ok, AF is accurate, useful zoom range. It is smaller (and prettier if that matters) than the 18-105 kit lens. I find the edges a bit soft though.
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I think this is the point and I agree. I have the "issue" on my setup as well, but so far the issue is really a non-issue. To the OP if you can live with the small annoyance you get a good lens for a great price.

Mike
 
mjevans said:
BirgerH said:
pda4you said:
BirgerH said:
mjevans said:
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin
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BirgerH said:
mjevans said:
BirgerH said:
pda4you said:
BirgerH said:
mjevans said:
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin
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mjevans said:
BirgerH said:
mjevans said:
BirgerH said:
pda4you said:
BirgerH said:
mjevans said:
pda4you said:
So -- I know you are asking for detail on your exact setup, but I wanted to chime in. First I don't have the 3300, I have a 7100 and I have the 17-50mm. My combo DOES have the scroll bug. Guess what - it is a total nit for me. Less than nothing. Why? I scroll through images LATER on my computer, not in the camera. :).

I really think you should be OK. If you are worried buy the lens new, with a warranty from a place that takes returns. If you have issue in your normal shooting style return the lens for a refund and find another brand (Tamron for example). Here in the US the major mail order spots all take returns with full refunds if you are not 100% happy. Not sure if the UK does that, but if they do - you are totally safe.

Frankly the while scroll bug was a great example of "blown up for no good reason" on the internet. :)

Mike
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If you buy over the internet then in the UK you have by law 14 days to return it. I believe it may be longer if it is faulty.

Martin
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