Apparently the XP2 will look just like the XP1

Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Not sure about others but my wallet is waiting in the wings. Twin cards, adjustable diopeter, new sensor, direct ISO/SS/Aperture controls, +3/-3 EC, wifi, EVF/OVF/Mix of the two... so much to like here. As a X100s user, I'm planning on picking this up within weeks of its release (want to make sure there aren't any major build issues first).

Can't wait.
 
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Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Except for people who like to use a camera up to their eye...and those who actually prefer no grip! :-|
I would like a tilting screen. In discussing tilting EVFs, the following use was mentioned that I never considered. A tilting screen would let you shoot things that are very high without having to look up all the time. They are also good for shooting over a crowd.
 
Quite possibly. I have two serious questions about how well this solution might work on a modern digital camera. One, of course, is the issue of how much more involved we are with manipulating the ISO as we shoot with a digital camera as opposed to the "once a roll, if that" pace of ISO changes on film.

The other involves in-viewfinder data. I never moved on from my original all-manual film SLR. I never had one with automated exposure, much less autofocus. Never needed it, never wanted it. I did have one camera with a little mirror gadget that reflected an image of the actual aperture marking on the lens into a window below the VF, but that was a luxury. Otherwise, I always had to take the camera away from my eye to see what I was doing. This suited me fine; I've always been a deliberate, slow paced shooter. Or maybe my cameras made me that way?

Anyway, now that I'm used to seeing my data in my VF, or at least all in one place on a screen, I'm wondering if the Spotmatic style control will seem too slow. Depends on the ergonomics of the actual piece, I suppose. And then I think about the control wheel, button and menu set up on my DSLR and how fast and efficient it is, and how much I don't like it, and I wonder why I am borrowing trouble.
 
I always thought that the tilting screen was an extra of very little use to me until I got one on my X-T1. I love having it and find it very useful. I have been waiting for the X-Pro2, but would likely wait for the X-T2 or go ahead with a second X-T1 if there is no tilting screen.


Shoelace height with a tilting screen saves my 65 year old knees.

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Mo Kwart
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Except for people who like to use a camera up to their eye...and those who actually prefer no grip! :-|
I would like a tilting screen. In discussing tilting EVFs, the following use was mentioned that I never considered. A tilting screen would let you shoot things that are very high without having to look up all the time. They are also good for shooting over a crowd.
 
Could be the source has FUJI's blessing as long as the source doesn't use an actual photo.
 
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Quite possibly. I have two serious questions about how well this solution might work on a modern digital camera. One, of course, is the issue of how much more involved we are with manipulating the ISO as we shoot with a digital camera as opposed to the "once a roll, if that" pace of ISO changes on film.

The other involves in-viewfinder data. I never moved on from my original all-manual film SLR. I never had one with automated exposure, much less autofocus. Never needed it, never wanted it. I did have one camera with a little mirror gadget that reflected an image of the actual aperture marking on the lens into a window below the VF, but that was a luxury. Otherwise, I always had to take the camera away from my eye to see what I was doing. This suited me fine; I've always been a deliberate, slow paced shooter. Or maybe my cameras made me that way?

Anyway, now that I'm used to seeing my data in my VF, or at least all in one place on a screen, I'm wondering if the Spotmatic style control will seem too slow. Depends on the ergonomics of the actual piece, I suppose. And then I think about the control wheel, button and menu set up on my DSLR and how fast and efficient it is, and how much I don't like it, and I wonder why I am borrowing trouble.
Methinks you are worrying too much. As an old film user...I'd never go back. What we are using now is far superior. I'm still interested in the Pro2 but the XT-10 is mighty fine and a lot less $$.
 
I wasn't suggesting I wanted to go back to film! Just that I shouldn't be quibbling about minor details in the only interchangable lens camera on the horizon that offers both an OVF and decent manual controls.

The XT-10 is avery appealing camera in many ways and if I was interested in an EVF it would be on the top of my list.
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Not sure about others but my wallet is waiting in the wings. Twin cards, adjustable diopeter, new sensor, direct ISO/SS/Aperture controls, +3/-3 EC, wifi, EVF/OVF/Mix of the two... so much to like here. As a X100s user, I'm planning on picking this up within weeks of its release (want to make sure there aren't any major build issues first).

Can't wait.
Can I get your 100s then?! ;-)
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Due to the inevitable compromise to mechanical durability Cameras intended for professional use have traditionally not had an articulated LCD. Nor has there been a demand by professional photographers for one.

I am sure there will be add on grips available to those who want it.

I don't believe the success or otherwise of the X-Pro2 will be much affected by the two factors you mentioned.
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
They'll fly just fine with me when the time comes - the grip on the existing camera is perfectly adequate for what it is, and as someone else pointed out, articulating screens just add an unwanted point of failure for some of us. Don't make the mistake of thinking that your preferences = everyone else's, if you want an XT style body just wait for the XT2.
My X30 has an articulated LCD but I seldom use the articulation function. Sometimes it is nice but mostly it just takes up unwanted space.
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Not sure about others but my wallet is waiting in the wings. Twin cards, adjustable diopeter, new sensor, direct ISO/SS/Aperture controls, +3/-3 EC, wifi, EVF/OVF/Mix of the two... so much to like here. As a X100s user, I'm planning on picking this up within weeks of its release (want to make sure there aren't any major build issues first).

Can't wait.
Can I get your 100s then?! ;-)
Sure... I'd let it go for a good price for a fellow board member...
 
Mo Kwart said:
I always thought that the tilting screen was an extra of very little use to me until I got one on my X-T1. I love having it and find it very useful. I have been waiting for the X-Pro2, but would likely wait for the X-T2 or go ahead with a second X-T1 if there is no tilting screen.


Shoelace height with a tilting screen saves my 65 year old knees.

--
Mo Kwart
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I have a X-A1 and have gotten used to the tilting screen and now find it essential, especially when I want to be unobtrusive or need a different perspective. I would not get a camera without one.




peek a boo
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Due to the inevitable compromise to mechanical durability Cameras intended for professional use have traditionally not had an articulated LCD. Nor has there been a demand by professional photographers for one.

I am sure there will be add on grips available to those who want it.

I don't believe the success or otherwise of the X-Pro2 will be much affected by the two factors you mentioned.
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Due to the inevitable compromise to mechanical durability Cameras intended for professional use have traditionally not had an articulated LCD. Nor has there been a demand by professional photographers for one.

I am sure there will be add on grips available to those who want it.

I don't believe the success or otherwise of the X-Pro2 will be much affected by the two factors you mentioned.
 
Hard to understand why Fuji still can't get small things right. Fixed LCD and no grip are not gonna fly.
Due to the inevitable compromise to mechanical durability Cameras intended for professional use have traditionally not had an articulated LCD. Nor has there been a demand by professional photographers for one.

I am sure there will be add on grips available to those who want it.

I don't believe the success or otherwise of the X-Pro2 will be much affected by the two factors you mentioned.
 

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