Nikon 200mm-500mm F5.6 VR

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Lens is awesome, 6 stars , 5 for performance one for cost. fast focusing, sharp images and wonderful bokesh, You cannot ask for more, Cost is 7 to 8 times less than 500mm F4. and picture quality is pretty good. Well works very well for me.
 
When Sigma and Tamron were the only choices, I chose to own neither.

The variable aperture was the main flaw. I won't get anywhere near variable lenses, as those are obnoxious to use.
 
So you are saying that the cheaply made Nikon lens that was already recalled for flaws is better.
When Sigma and Tamron were the only choices, I chose to own neither.

The variable aperture was the main flaw. I won't get anywhere near variable lenses, as those are obnoxious to use.

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When Sigma and Tamron were the only choices, I chose to own neither.

The variable aperture was the main flaw. I won't get anywhere near variable lenses, as those are obnoxious to use.
 
So you are saying that the cheaply made Nikon lens that was already recalled for flaws is better.
When Sigma and Tamron were the only choices, I chose to own neither.

The variable aperture was the main flaw. I won't get anywhere near variable lenses, as those are obnoxious to use.
 
I did not buy it to shoot at 200 F5.6. Mine is always on 500 F5.6. Being able to shoot at 200 F5.6 is an added benefit of this lens. Also how much would I need to pay for a 500 F5.6 prime? Is there one available for $1396.00??
 
I did not buy it to shoot at 200 F5.6. Mine is always on 500 F5.6. Being able to shoot at 200 F5.6 is an added benefit of this lens. Also how much would I need to pay for a 500 F5.6 prime? Is there one available for $1396.00??
 
I have the Nikon 80-400 work of krappola, so yea I will never waste money on a blurry lens again, from any manufacturer. Can you post your 200-500 photos of birds in flight, as opposed to sitting on a branch.
So you are saying that the cheaply made Nikon lens that was already recalled for flaws is better.
When Sigma and Tamron were the only choices, I chose to own neither.

The variable aperture was the main flaw. I won't get anywhere near variable lenses, as those are obnoxious to use.

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Tamron had a recall also. Sigma had a firmware update the same as Nikon but the update could be done using the dock. As far as the build quality I have used for over a month the Sigma C, Tamron and the Nikon and the Nikon seems to be the best except for the hood where are I prefer the Sigma C's hood. I am speaking from experience. You obviously are not since you have owned or used none of them.

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I find all of these lenses highly obnoxious. My slowest zooms are f/2.8 constant. Being forced to shoot at 200 f/5.6 would cause me untold amounts of grief.
You're being ridiculous. Show me a 200-500 2.8 zoom. Oh wait.

I find the entire sub-300 range to be useless on these lenses. It's 300-500 that is really useful. Nikon should have made a 300-600 instead. And I'd have paid double the price for f/4 as well. Ah, be we can dream, can't we? Me with my lens that doesn't exist, and you with yours.
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So you are saying that the cheaply made Nikon lens that was already recalled for flaws is better.
Honestly, what recall? I heard about it, sure. But realistically, it affected almost nobody. Nikon caught it right away. It's one reason restock was held up for a month.

My 200-500 was not affected, and I've had it for more than a month now.
 
According to Brad Hill, the Sigma and the Nikon are pretty similar.
 
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I must have tried to focus on this lapwing in less than 5sec and pressed the shutter as it was moving too fast. When i saw it in the laptop i was impressed with the picture quality, The lapwing must have atleast been 35-40 meters above my head, After having a tamron for a year and my friends having the sigma 150-500. The AF and sharpness on the 200-500 in much better. Hope this helps.

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There's two things going on in this thread. Some ppl overhyping the 200-500mm. And people underestemating the Sigma cause 'well it's third part, it can't be good enough'.

In the end BOTH are incredible pieces of glass (that 5 years ago, i didnt dream, think could exist). But 95% ppl still choose the Nikkor. Wich is a bit surprising imo. Especially for EU people where the nikkor is relative expensive compared to US and the Sigma is very cheap compared to US.

I used them both, at a photoday where manufacturers let you borrow and use lenses. Both have up and downsides. Both are great. Both will (if the user practises enough) yield great photo's.

Also one of the problems (seemingly) with dpr poster is that 90% is older then 35 years (please correct me on that, but most people seem crazy surprised when I say i'm 27 old). Wich means heavyness is 'pretty heavely' counted as downside. Put a younger public on dpreview, and a lot more people will not discard the Sigma so fast.

I'm lucky to be left handed (left hand is wich carries the package mostly, right hand just support on camera, bad luck do you if that is your strong arm), and to be young. And for half an hour, carrying the Sigma + d800 was no problem. 15 min of that at least where taking picture of it. Feeling was the Nikkor was much leigher. Endurance impact wise, the nikkon felt just as bulky (if you hold it out long, your muscles get a bit of wear).

Also i'm tired of the excuse 'Sigma is front heavy'. That is just a perception cause the front part is big. Look at the glass schematics pictures. The front just has 2 or 3 pieces and is for rest empty. Also the metal cover (weigh 1,8kg), is much less pronounced on the front, then on the back. And the back has a lot more glass then the front. The only reason the Sigma is front heavy is cause it's a long lens. Any 600mm (even an F10 lens) will be front heavy. That's the nature of the beast. Nature of perception. It is however not frontheavy as in front element being much heavier then the back. If i holded it on tripod food, the combo was almost completely balanced (slightly front heavy at 600mm, BACK heavy when at 150mm. If you hold it by the end of lens with left hand, then you are in for a muscle fitness marathon (perhaps another reason for heavyness perception). Hold it by the mid of lens (tripod food), and keep your elbow close to body for superior muscle support (imo).

Also from my observations:

Nikkor is purely bird lens (and wildlife). It's corners are not so good, making it a worse landscape choice.

The corners of the Sigma are quit a bit sharper according to brad (and other reviews). That is important for me, cause bird photography will NOT be my primary use of it (but rather landscape). Nobody here see that as downside wich implies most people are primary buying this lens for birding (nikkor), wich it is excellent at. For allround capability (other then being light enough to carry everywhere, but I think the nikon is still to heavy also for that), I think Sigma is better.

Indoor, wich the sun down (but light still pretty strong and active) with superior big glass parts (so lots of light coming tru, not true indoor low light scenery), the Nikkor hunted about 3-5 tims before starting to lock on (high contrast) target). Sigma never bothred to hunt, and went immediately to the target, to then micro adjust close to the target. This is with D800. D750/d4 might give nikkor an edge cause people like T O Shooter claim that the nikkor 200-500mm needs a really good AF motor to get the best out (while the Sigma seems less affected by that).

Still not purchased either, but i'm still leaning Sigma for allround capability. If i want travel lens the 70-200mm F4 (and it's range limitations) will have to do. If i buy a telezoom 500mm+ i want it to be a powerhouse.
 
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MattiD80, you have good reasons for the Sigma lens. Yes, it seems natural of buyers of the Nikon to want to do birding or wildlife shooting since this long of a lens is good for this. I think a lot of people who can now afford the Nikon 200-500 lens for the birding purpose are new to long lenses. Because of this their images are not going to be excellent in most cases because it takes a long time to develop good technic with a 500mm lens. Most all shoot without a tripod and in a lot of cases using improper settings to get good images.

By the way I am 70 and still use my Nikon 500mm f4.0 lens mostly for wildlife photography. I do use it with a tripod and gimbal head and I think especially people starting out birding should use a tripod and more than that practice, practice, practice.

It takes a while to use a long lens to learn proper technic and to utilize the lens using the best settings.

Larry
 
If I was your age I would have gone with the Sigma Sport. But now I don't want to haul around the extra weight for me. It is all relative. For the young things are too slow and the more mature ;) they are too fast.
 
There's two things going on in this thread. Some ppl overhyping the 200-500mm. And people underestemating the Sigma cause 'well it's third part, it can't be good enough'.

In the end BOTH are incredible pieces of glass (that 5 years ago, i didnt dream, think could exist). But 95% ppl still choose the Nikkor. Wich is a bit surprising imo. Especially for EU people where the nikkor is relative expensive compared to US and the Sigma is very cheap compared to US.
EU people have a tougher choice since either lens is within $100 of each other. Sigma is few lbs heavier but better weather sealed, more reach....
The corners of the Sigma are quit a bit sharper according to brad (and other reviews). That is important for me, cause bird photography will NOT be my primary use of it (but rather landscape). Nobody here see that as downside wich implies most people are primary buying this lens for birding (nikkor), wich it is excellent at. For allround capability (other then being light enough to carry everywhere, but I think the nikon is still to heavy also for that), I think Sigma is better.
I'd be careful with the term "quite a bit"...In fact camera labs test showed the Nikon ahead in corners until 400 or 500, where the Sigma and even the Tamron had good performance. But that was wide open and of course the Nikon was at 5.6 not 6.3. Could be even at f8.
 
My 200-500 is sharp at the edges, I don't Sigma is that sharp from what I have seen in the internet.

At 200 edges are as sharp is in the center ,via a total flat field, a performance neither 70-200s

touches at 5.6@200.

At 500 f5.6 edges are not as sharp center is, but they are sharp enough to use it at landscape

distance (theoretically, because the atmospheric conditions almost always doesn't allow that)

and most importantly they don't show this ugly astigmatism that ruins a photo otherwise.

At 500 f8, edges are almost as sharp is in the center.

I speak about infinity distance .
 

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