Of course, but seeing some semblance of the expected exposure is still an advantage.
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2012 Sony A57 ($150 used on ebay with kit lens) overspecs Sony A68 ($650 at release)?
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sybersitizen
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The point of my comment was that the OP specifically said the system 'allows users to see what they are getting as they are getting it-even with manual flash. It demystifies flash if you will...' It cannot do that at all. For that, you have to take a shot and chimp it, as you would with a digital camera from any other company.
Sony's live view system has definite advantages, yes. But studio flash users in particular can make a strong case that the system is actually a disadvantage with certain flash setups (that's more than we need to get into here, though).
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Reverse logic if the buffer was large Sony would have included it in the specs in the press release and on their site. They have not which is revealing because if it were any good they would be quite open about it. I would expect a small buffer on this model as the 5fps matches the A58 it's likely to be similar in other areas which it has been (EVF and LCD are the same)
But if I am wrong I stand to be corrected
Prepare to be disappointed
leonche64
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sybersitizen
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Although we don't know anything about the buffer, it most likely is nothing remarkable. That remains to be seen.
One thing that is mentioned in the specs is that the 8fps frame rate is the 'Tele-Zoom Continuous Advance Priority AE' type, meaning it does not capture the full sensor image, but only a center crop. That added to the related information doesn't bode particularly well for expectations of a deep or fast buffer.
Douglas F Watt
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In a word, yes.
tbcass
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tbcass
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He didn't really make it up because it's a logical conclusion based on previous models and the price point. I would put the chance of his prediction being correct at 95% at least. Anything else would be unrealistic expectations.
Like I said if it were big Sony would have plastered it all over the place but they have not. Yes it's a guess but then I suspect it's an accurate one.
We shall know soon enough it might be a bit bigger than the A58 in fact it should be as that was too small I'd love to see a decent 15 shot buffer in raw but I doubt we will get it
Sony can be pretty predictable at times plastic mount again (despite the fact it's hated) low res LCD and EVF it's fairly certain that I'm on target with the buffer
I find it MUCH more helpful to use a wireless flash trigger that the camera does not detect and does not cause the EVF/LCD to illuminate so I can simultaneously monitor my exact background exposure before I shoot AND see the exact flash exposure I am using as I shoot, especially shooting in burst and being able to adjust the exposure as needed; we can use two YN-560iis fired remotely on an on-camera bracket, why two? More flash power to bounce off ceilings and burst while bouncing if wanted/needed. Why remote? Why not? No cables, and the ability for multiple cameras on one person or multiple people to use the same flashes by having a trigger on each camera. Plus the bracket is Manfrotto RC2 quick detachable so an assistant can take the bracket and hold the flash if needed, or the bracket can sit in a corner and bounce off the wall, or even be taken apart and each flash placed in a separate spot and easily put back together. My hubby to be also modifies the flashes by adding his own 6000mah NIMH batteries by soldering wires directly to the flash boards. Now the flashes recharge almost instantly and the batteries last for thousands of flashes at high power - extremely affordable, extremely portable, extremely high power/recharge flashes.
I dont want to set unrealistic expectations of ISO3200. But here is my A99, with 2470z lens at ISO3200. I was also using an adapted F58AM flash and Gary Fong lightsphere.
The preview looks OOF, but its very sharp, when you click into it.
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sybersitizen
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[1] You like the Sony system so you can see the ambient lighting effects before you shoot. Sure, we all like having that option.
[2] You cannot see anything concerning the flash exposure until after you shoot and chimp, and that can be done with every digital camera.
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I think you are reading it wrong(its possible that I am too), she can see the flash exposure while shooting without taking her eye off the viewfinder(using the auto-review). So she can continue to shoot.
That is a pretty good advantage IMO.
sybersitizen
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Okay, that finally makes some sense (though it's really after, not while).
I agree... it's much more convenient than shifting your eye between an OVF and a rear LCD.
Dont worry, I had it interpreted it wrong earlier too.
I am not trying to nitpick semantics.... but I would consider it while she is shooting, because she is continuing to shoot. Which is the advantage(vs stopping to look at the rear screen).
tbcass
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I think having a top LCD while reducing the rear LCD resolution is really stupid. They should have canned the top LCD and used a higher res rear LCD.
QuietOC
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Maybe Sony has a stock-pile of those displays that they want to get rid of. The rear screen might not matter much to sales. I see the Canon T5 is still leading sales, and it also has a 480x360 rear display. Though the rear screen probably doesn't matter much at all on a fixed screen, optical viewfinder camera like the T5. Maybe they are thinking: top LCD panel--just like a D7x00 or T6s!
I am certainly willing to pay a premium for a 720x480 or better display on a mirrorless or SLT camera. It makes sense, but Sony doesn't even use one that good on any of their cameras.
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Sadly, the A68 just isnt a good match up against its competitors. Look at the T6i. It has a 24mp sensor with 5ps shooting AND a metal mount(at least the face), touch screen, full articulating screen, wifi, nfc for $750, vs the $650 A68's msrp.
Dont get me wrong, I am glad that there is an A68. It has a bigger body, top LCD and the new rear dial gives people a useful 2nd dial for M mode.... but I would rather have seen the A68 be in the smaller A65 body, with Wifi instead of GPS.
I think they may not have done this because I remember reading a Sony exec complain about the A77ii sales, because customers didnt see the difference between the A77 and A77ii. So they may have decided to put the A68 in a new body, and cut costs hard everywhere else.
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