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Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.

Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.

Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.

Image quality is just meh.

Who exactly is this for?

Rich rappers?

Donald Trump?
 
I don't know who it's for but I will say that is one big ugly rig.
 
Potemkin_Photo said:
Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.

Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.

Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.

Image quality is just meh.

Who exactly is this for?

Rich rappers?

Donald Trump?
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Yeah.... and I thought that the one thing that was so unique about Leicas and made them so worth it for folks was the rangefinder design. Take that part away and they're not as unique a system but still cost so much...


Rangefinder or the more typical mirrorless style of this new cam, it doesn't make sense to me to pay so much for a camera that's as well made as these things are knowing how quickly the tech moves. In the film era a camera that was built to last a lifetime was an attractive proposition but in these days of digital photography no is using a camera for a lifetime anyway...
 
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I think Leica may have made a blunder on this one (but what do I know, I am no Leica owner or historian). It's just that the camera is properly sized for maybe a medium format camera, and is not exactly stylish to carry around. So it goes up against the Pentax 645 and here I do not think Leica can compete. Just my 2c.
 
Remember when we were asking who would buy the Hassleblad branded Sony's for those inflated prices?

This guy, and his buddies.



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(For Americans, this is David Beckham. He played soccer or something.)
 
MinAZ said:
I think Leica may have made a blunder on this one (but what do I know, I am no Leica owner or historian). It's just that the camera is properly sized for maybe a medium format camera, and is not exactly stylish to carry around. So it goes up against the Pentax 645 and here I do not think Leica can compete. Just my 2c.
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Medium format??

It's no bigger than any FF DSLR.
 
Potemkin_Photo said:
Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.

Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.

Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.
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I find it hard to forget that you were waiting until the 1D III went down to $300 before you would buy it, and then started writing as if you would buy a 1DX when it went down to $4300.

You'll just have to accept pricey Leicas for people who aren't focused on value are just not for you, battleship Potemkin. No need to revolt, stay on a steady diet of consumer cameras.
 
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Potemkin_Photo said:
Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.

Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.

Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.

Image quality is just meh.

Who exactly is this for?

Rich rappers?

Donald Trump?
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Well, clearly, it's not for you. But that's fine. I think people have to keep in mind that the world is a big place, and there are a lot of wealthy people in it. There are more multi-millionaires in the world today than at any time in modern history. They have money to spend. They like high-end brands such as Leica.

I see this camera as being the "universal Leica", since it is able to accept just about every lens system that Leica makes (Leica M, S, T, and L lenses). So if you're a Leicaphile and have a range of Leica lenses, this is the camera for you. Is it the value-leader in FF cameras? Of course not. Leica has never been. But the "value" equation doesn't really apply for luxury brands.
 
Seal might buy one. He's a Leica fan.
 
Potemkin_Photo said:
Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.
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more impressive to me than any dslr I've ever seen
Potemkin_Photo said:
Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.
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not really, look at huge pro dslrs
Potemkin_Photo said:
Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.
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a lot less dangerous, lower maintenance and you'll get more stay in better shape using it
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Image quality is just meh.
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yeah right
Potemkin_Photo said:
Who exactly is this for?
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those whom can appreciate outstanding image quality & can afford it of which there are more than Leica will produce
Potemkin_Photo said:
Rich rappers?
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funny
Potemkin_Photo said:
Donald Trump?
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more funny

I handled one at the NY PhotoExpo, incredible in so many ways
 
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Dheorl said:
MinAZ said:
I think Leica may have made a blunder on this one (but what do I know, I am no Leica owner or historian). It's just that the camera is properly sized for maybe a medium format camera, and is not exactly stylish to carry around. So it goes up against the Pentax 645 and here I do not think Leica can compete. Just my 2c.
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Medium format??

It's no bigger than any FF DSLR.
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Perhaps, but its not a DSLR - just look at the thing, does it not look like it might be a medium format mirrorless camera? Actually there's a concept...
 
MinAZ said:
Dheorl said:
MinAZ said:
I think Leica may have made a blunder on this one (but what do I know, I am no Leica owner or historian). It's just that the camera is properly sized for maybe a medium format camera, and is not exactly stylish to carry around. So it goes up against the Pentax 645 and here I do not think Leica can compete. Just my 2c.
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Medium format??

It's no bigger than any FF DSLR.
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Perhaps, but its not a DSLR - just look at the thing, does it not look like it might be a medium format mirrorless camera? Actually there's a concept...
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That would be a nice concept, but no, it looks like a FF mirrorless. It's smaller than most FF ILC cameras, has an excellent EVF and I'm sure with Leica lenses will produce some beautiful images. If I could afford one I'd love it.
 
Potemkin_Photo said:
Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.

Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.

Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.

Image quality is just meh.

Who exactly is this for?

Rich rappers?

Donald Trump?
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Andre the trust fund hipster giant.
 
T3 said:
Potemkin_Photo said:
Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.

Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.

Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.

Image quality is just meh.

Who exactly is this for?

Rich rappers?

Donald Trump?
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Well, clearly, it's not for you. But that's fine. I think people have to keep in mind that the world is a big place, and there are a lot of wealthy people in it. There are more multi-millionaires in the world today than at any time in modern history. They have money to spend. They like high-end brands such as Leica.

I see this camera as being the "universal Leica", since it is able to accept just about every lens system that Leica makes (Leica M, S, T, and L lenses). So if you're a Leicaphile and have a range of Leica lenses, this is the camera for you. Is it the value-leader in FF cameras? Of course not. Leica has never been. But the "value" equation doesn't really apply for luxury brands.
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Lol. You know what else is the universal Leica? The A7rii. For less than half the price, with more tech! Maybe it wasn't hand lathed from a single block of magnesium by artisan craftsmen, but it's still a premium piece.
 
sportyaccordy said:
sportyaccordy said:
Potemkin_Photo said:
Big and chunky like a DSLR, but doesn't exactly surpass it in all aspects.

Loses the size proposition that comes with mirrorless.

Costs as much as a nice motorcycle.

Image quality is just meh.

Who exactly is this for?

Rich rappers?

Donald Trump?
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Well, clearly, it's not for you. But that's fine. I think people have to keep in mind that the world is a big place, and there are a lot of wealthy people in it. There are more multi-millionaires in the world today than at any time in modern history. They have money to spend. They like high-end brands such as Leica.

I see this camera as being the "universal Leica", since it is able to accept just about every lens system that Leica makes (Leica M, S, T, and L lenses). So if you're a Leicaphile and have a range of Leica lenses, this is the camera for you. Is it the value-leader in FF cameras? Of course not. Leica has never been. But the "value" equation doesn't really apply for luxury brands.
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Lol. You know what else is the universal Leica? The A7rii. For less than half the price, with more tech! Maybe it wasn't hand lathed from a single block of magnesium by artisan craftsmen, but it's still a premium piece.
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You're missing the point. The Sony is not a Leica. For people with money, brand margues are important. Someone who wants and has the money for a Rolex Submariner isn't going to buy an Invicta Pro Diver (which costs about $100), even though they both look the same, function similarly, and both tell time well.

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That is, clients with deep pockets willing to pay for the ultimate in quality.

The importance of this camera isn't that it will sell in huge numbers, but the cachet of quality that it will impart to the red dot.

Look for famous portraitists, landscape photographers, and advertising photographers based in large metropolitan areas to use this camera. (i.e. the photographic equivalent of race car drivers and NBA basketball players).

These are the people with the reasons to spend that sort of money on that sort of gear and the ability to amortize the cost over a short period of time. It wouldn't surprise me if Leica loses money on this camera, but short term profit may not be the driving reason to produce it.

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