Wi-Fi adapter dead on new Win 10 computer?

I switched my 92 year old mother over from an old XP desktop to a new large-screen all in one running Windows 10. I moved over her data. She spends all day on the internet - doing research, FB, email. I spent a couple of hours with her going over the changes and she has been one happy user ever since.

So give it a rest. This "Drama Queen" reaction to every Win 10 problem is becoming seriously tedious.

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So, I'm no stranger to troubleshooting.

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However, your shotgun approach to virtually any problem reported here, where you gather up ever little bit of relevant and irrelevant information that may even remotely be related to the problem, throw it at the wall, and hope something sticks, is insidious.

Sure bits stick. I am one of those who will read your posts even if I dislike your presentation. But it has the other effect of making every single Windows problem appear monumental. I don't know whether it is intentional or not, but I find it's simply advancing your anti-Windows agenda.

I made one post regarding your posting style, and only because I really took issue with your defensive position when it was suggested you could present your info and positions more effectively. You can take it or leave it just as I can take or leave your posts, and I do choose to keep reading them, despite. And I am not going to repeat the point because it pertains to personal style and preference. I am not going to follow every post going nyah nyah like a 5 year old. I find that response from others on this forum pathetic.

But I do take issue with the constant Windows bashing and I do believe it deserves response whenever any of us feels that is the case. In my view anyone using Linux and the photo tools available on Linux rather than Windows and its tools, is a masochist. However, what you use is your concern. What you tell others about Windows on a public forum is everyone's concern.

I understand the privacy issues, but, at the end of the day, if you seriously think anyone gives a rodent's posterior what you do on your PC among the hundreds of millions of Windows PCs out there then, my personal opinion is that you have a grossly exaggerated sense of self importance or need to put on your tin foil hat. I find Windows evolving much more rapidly than it has ever in the past and I think that is due, in no small part, to advanced telemetry.

But yes I will keep reading your posts, although I have to bring along a shovel to find the useful bits. I made my point about your ability to communicate, nuff said, but I will now start to take issue with the constant Windows bashing.

edispics said:

I switched my 92 year old mother over from an old XP desktop to a new large-screen all in one running Windows 10. I moved over her data. She spends all day on the internet - doing research, FB, email. I spent a couple of hours with her going over the changes and she has been one happy user ever since.

So give it a rest. This "Drama Queen" reaction to every Win 10 problem is becoming seriously tedious.

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Your 92 year old Mother surfing the net. That is awesome! You are so lucky to have her.

And she took to Win 10 like a duck to water, even more awesome.

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edispics said:

I switched my 92 year old mother over from an old XP desktop to a new large-screen all in one running Windows 10. I moved over her data. She spends all day on the internet - doing research, FB, email. I spent a couple of hours with her going over the changes and she has been one happy user ever since.

So give it a rest. This "Drama Queen" reaction to every Win 10 problem is becoming seriously tedious.

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I'm not the one causing the drama.

The members here that just can't help but start bashing my posts are causing the drama. I'm only responding to that bashing.

The OP has made it very clear that he does not prefer Windows 10, and even started a thread about being unable to install updates to Windows 7 because of problems caused by Windows trying to run Windows 10 installers.

This thread:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56303751

So, yes I included updated links to articles containing the MS KB numbers that should be hidden to prevent that type of issue from reoccurring as he's trying to install Windows 7 on an older computer..

The OP has made it clear that he appreciates my responses.

It's other posters here causing the "drama" by bashing my responses because they're not praising Microsoft Windows 10.

Sorry, not everyone is thrilled with it, and many users are "in denial" that problems exist (as you'll find with virtually any brand new Operating System).

I'm trying to help the OP (first, with trying to resolve the issues with a wireless adapter on the new computer with Window 10; and later with helping to make sure the OP doesn't have the same issues that he ran into with forced Windows 10 installation on a computer running Windows 7 that he did not want updated to Windows 10).

But, members here just can't resist bashing other members' posts.

For whatever reason, members fond of Windows 10 just can't fathom that perhaps it has issues that are causing problems with WiFi adapters, despite the many threads and posts you can find about it; and don't seem to want to hear that others hae found that settings changes can solve it.

Or, members fond of Microsoft (like Guido, bragging about his Microsoft stock purchases in posts here), just can't seem to accept that Microsoft may be doing things like trying to force updates to Windows 10, or that Windows 10 has any issues

Sorry. but virtually any new OS will have issues.

Other than responses to the flames and flame bait bashing my posts, I'm only giving suggestions and advice to the OP (that he has made clear he appreciates), to help the OP resolve issues and avoid issues that he has run into before.

If you do not appreciate my posts, please ignore them, as I'm getting very tired of the bashing and flame bait.

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Jim Cockfield said:

The OP has made it very clear that he does not prefer Windows 10, and even started a thread about being unable to install updates to Windows 7 because of problems caused by Windows trying to run Windows 10 installers.

This thread:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56303751

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For the record, I don't necessarily dislike Windows 10. But I didn't want it to update my Surface Pro 3 (above link). I have read that updating an already complex Win 8.1 install (VMWare...) often causes problems. I really, really don't want to get into "need to reformat and do a clean Win 10 (or 8.1) install."

But I probably wouldn't mind Windows 10 on a brand new computer. Assuming that it worked...

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So, yes I included updated links to articles containing the MS KB numbers that should be hidden to prevent that type of issue from reoccurring as he's trying to install Windows 7 on an older computer..

The OP has made it clear that he appreciates my responses.

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Yes I do.

Member said:

It's other posters here causing the "drama" by bashing my responses because they're not praising Microsoft Windows 10.

Sorry, not everyone is thrilled with it, and many users are "in denial" that problems exist (as you'll find with virtually any brand new Operating System).

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Could you provide a list of the various published articles that have documented the real problems that Microsoft/Windows is causing? I know that you've posted them in various other threads, but a compact list of published articles might counter the "drama" criticisms. i.e., I don't think that PC Magazine or ZDNet would be called drama queens.

Wayne

Why don't you google that question and see what you came up with?

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Wayne Larmon said:

Could you provide a list of the various published articles that have documented the real problems that Microsoft/Windows is causing? I know that you've posted them in various other threads, but a compact list of published articles might counter the "drama" criticisms. i.e., I don't think that PC Magazine or ZDNet would be called drama queens.

Wayne

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Wayne, look at the response to this recent thread, starting with a post referencing an article from ZDNet.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56633308

The next thing you know. it turned into a flame war. Look at the posts accusing me of spreading FUD and more after I responded with a link to another article reinforcing issues with the way Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 installation (sound familiar, as with the posts in this thread?')

Even after others pointed out that Microsoft admitted to making a mistake, they were still in denial that Microsoft could do any wrong.

It can be almost impossible to debate issues with Windows, or to point out problems with it, without members here accusing you of bashing Microsoft, even when discussing issues that are impacting other members (as with the issue the articles linked to in that thread that caused you problems last month)

As you are probably aware, there are many articles discussing issues with windows 10 (especially things like privacy related issues with tools and settings to try and block Windows 10 from "phoning home"; issues related to problems with forced updates and more); and you'll find many articles about those types of issues on major sites like zdnet.

But, in virtually every case, you'll find that threads that try to start a civil discussion of those issues end up in flame wars.

That's a shame.

Not all members here are that way. But, there are a handful of users that do their best to bash other members' posts, and try to chase off any members that don't share their opinions.

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Jim I'm not going to argue bit for bit with you. I said what I said and you said what you said. Let the record (and facts) speak for themselves.

I'm just glad people are finally calling you out for your Anti-Windows (and Microsoft) mis-informational rants.

Peace

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Wow seems like every thread in the PC forum now becomes a lets gripe about Jim C. I appreciate his answers, if you do not, don't read them. Jim seems to try and answer and help when someone posts a question or problem, and then the attacks start. Seems to be the same people each time that hijack a thread, and turn it to the "Let's Get Jim Thread". If you don't like what he posts, post another solution, or DON'T read his posts. It would be nice to read in this forum without the constant sniping that goes on.

Again, I appreciate Jim's answers, he has helped me in the past, THANKS JIM!

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Wow seems like every thread in the PC forum now becomes a lets gripe about Jim C. I appreciate his answers, if you do not, don't read them. Jim seems to try and answer and help when someone posts a question or problem, and then the attacks start. Seems to be the same people each time that hijack a thread, and turn it to the "Let's Get Jim Thread". If you don't like what he posts, post another solution, or DON'T read his posts. It would be nice to read in this forum without the constant sniping that goes on.

Again, I appreciate Jim's answers, he has helped me in the past, THANKS JIM!

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Hi rd52:

Actually, it is not the same people each time. What we are experiencing are more different people that have had it and are voicing their displeasure.

If you google a PC issue you are having you can get help in a shorter amount of time that is much easier to use. Try it! I dare you. Might change your perceptions.

Regards,

Guido

Guido is right about using Google to find a solution to a problem, work very well most of the time

GegeNY said:

Guido is right about using Google to find a solution to a problem, work very well most of the time

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Thanks Gege. It is nice to quickly scan favorable fixes then save pages. Printing the suggestions has worked best for me.

GegeNY said:

Guido is right about using Google to find a solution to a problem, work very well most of the time

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see my first post to this thread:


A quote from it:

"Wayne..after a bit of google searching, I've found a number of posts indicating issues with Windows 10 power settings, where wireless adapters are being disabled (turned off) after a while. But, some users report that when they leave their laptop shut down over night, the wireless works again for a short time before shutting off."

That's when the criticism and bashing started.

So, I guess I'm bashing Windows 10, by finding threads (using google to search for things like "wireless adapter disappearing") discussing the same problem the OP was experiencing after users upgraded to Windows 10; with posts in those threads discussing how changing power management related settings solved the issue.

Some members here seem to make it their mission in life to bash other member's posts. It's a real shame that the forums here have degraded into that kind of nonsense.

Sorry... Please prove this statement...

Jim Cockfield said:

For example, Intel provids drivers for their USB 3.0 chipsets that you'll find in most new motherboards now for Windows 7.

But, guess what? They do not provide them for Windows 8, 8.1 or 10.

Why? Microsoft insisted that the Microsoft drivers be used instead of Intel's drivers, and they've been extremely buggy.

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And don't give us some third rate website looking to garner a few clicks. A legitimate link to the source where it clearly says what you've stated.

And don't tell us to "research facts" when you throw stuff (to be polite) like this out and expect it to stick cause you say so. You want credibility... prove your statement. Period.

And you're behind times buddy... the new motherboards are designed more with Windows 8 and beyond in mind, with support for USB3.1 and Thunderbolt in mind. And Windows 7 being an afterthought. Note for example this Gigabyte board - click Specifications an note the OS support. Gigabyte isn't the only one focusing on the future (8 and beyond). Yes, there will be new motherboard supporting Windows 7, but it won't be the prime OS they focus on.

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Jim Cockfield said:

GegeNY said:

Guido is right about using Google to find a solution to a problem, work very well most of the time

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see my first post to this thread:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56646800

A quote from it:

"Wayne..after a bit of google searching, I've found a number of posts indicating issues with Windows 10 power settings, where wireless adapters are being disabled (turned off) after a while. But, some users report that when they leave their laptop shut down over night, the wireless works again for a short time before shutting off."

That's when the criticism and bashing started.

So, I guess I'm bashing Windows 10, by finding threads (using google to search for things like "wireless adapter disappearing") discussing the same problem the OP was experiencing after users upgraded to Windows 10; with posts in those threads discussing how changing power management related settings solved the issue.

Some members here seem to make it their mission in life to bash other member's posts. It's a real shame that the forums here have degraded into that kind of nonsense.

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Jim:

What makes you think that GegeNY is interested in your sad state of affairs Jim. It's your post like these that show me you are at a point of struggle in your life. It's sad to see.

It's all about effectively fixing issues the easiest, sanest, using common sense way.

I hope you get well.

Regards,

Guido

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Sorry... Please prove this statement...

Jim Cockfield said:

For example, Intel provids drivers for their USB 3.0 chipsets that you'll find in most new motherboards now for Windows 7.

But, guess what? They do not provide them for Windows 8, 8.1 or 10.

Why? Microsoft insisted that the Microsoft drivers be used instead of Intel's drivers, and they've been extremely buggy.

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And don't give us some third rate website looking to garner a few clicks. A legitimate link to the source where it clearly says what you've stated.

And don't tell us to "research facts" when you throw stuff (to be polite) like this out and expect it to stick cause you say so. You want credibility... prove your statement. Period.

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Sheesh. I can't believe that you are still continuing this darn flame war that you started. I don't understand why members here can't seem to get along without all of this nonsense and bashing of posts.

But, since you insist on putting your foot deeper into your mouth, how about Intel (the manufacturer of the USB 3.0 host controller chipset you'll find in most modern motherboards, starting with Ivy Bridge)?


"Intel® USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver

Where is Intel® USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver for Windows 8*?

Microsoft Windows 8* and Windows 8.1* have a native in-box USB 3.0 driver. Intel is not releasing a specific Intel® USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver for Windows 8 or 8.1.

If you are upgrading from Windows 7* to Windows 8 or 8.1, uninstall the Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver before installing the upgrade.

Operating System:

This applies to:

Intel® USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver

Would you also like links to Microsoft's pages about all of the USB 3.0 related problems, and how they tried to resolve them with Win 8.1 Update (1), reversing some of the previous changes that were causing even more issues? it's not hard to find them.

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