V4 Rumored Specs

The A7R isn't that much bigger than the V3 and they got it all put together fairly well. (my opinion)
 
The A7R isn't that much bigger than the V3 and they got it all put together fairly well. (my opinion)
I have a D750 for my full frame needs. The new A7's started to push full frame body sizes when they felt it necessary to make the grip bigger. Personally I have no need for a grip even with long glass. Sony might be ready for prime time in a few years though. I owned the A7 and used an A72 and absolutely hated the ergonomics and menu. A7R2 just can't replace the 1 system for my portable fun needs.

But point taken. Nikon has to keep the body small. Hopefully Nikon listens.

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The A7R isn't that much bigger than the V3 and they got it all put together fairly well. (my opinion)
I have a D750 for my full frame needs. The new A7's started to push full frame body sizes when they felt it necessary to make the grip bigger. Personally I have no need for a grip even with long glass. Sony might be ready for prime time in a few years though. I owned the A7 and used an A72 and absolutely hated the ergonomics and menu. A7R2 just can't replace the 1 system for my portable fun needs.

But point taken. Nikon has to keep the body small. Hopefully Nikon listens.
 
The A7R isn't that much bigger than the V3 and they got it all put together fairly well. (my opinion)
I have a D750 for my full frame needs. The new A7's started to push full frame body sizes when they felt it necessary to make the grip bigger. Personally I have no need for a grip even with long glass. Sony might be ready for prime time in a few years though. I owned the A7 and used an A72 and absolutely hated the ergonomics and menu. A7R2 just can't replace the 1 system for my portable fun needs.

But point taken. Nikon has to keep the body small. Hopefully Nikon listens.

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I agree, I'm hoping the V4 fits my needs if not I'll try something else. I also like the smaller systems. Though the 750 is a smaller body you still got the big lenses to deal with but IQ can't be beat by the smaller units at this time. I saw the A7R2 and though it sounded good but the size turned me away.
Agreed. I only use my full frame when I need serious work done. In some ways I view my 1 as a scouting camera and at other times I use purely for the challenge. Nikon certainly has a tough nut to crack, particularly in the western markets where big is viewed as better. V3 grip idea was an attempt by them to appease that crowd but not having access to the battery door...ouch.

Modularity sounds nice on paper and I can get my head around it but taking away other functions in the process really is a head scratcher. I have hopes for the V4 given Nikons recent statements but not holding my breath. Regardless a lot of options out there. Peoples expectations are high especially when this may be considered a main camera for many of the users. But at their price point I can understand the complaints. Wanna sell for $1100? Then give me a $1100 camera. The value, at least in my case just isn't there yet for someone that views it as a main.

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The A7R isn't that much bigger than the V3 and they got it all put together fairly well. (my opinion)
I have a D750 for my full frame needs. The new A7's started to push full frame body sizes when they felt it necessary to make the grip bigger. Personally I have no need for a grip even with long glass. Sony might be ready for prime time in a few years though. I owned the A7 and used an A72 and absolutely hated the ergonomics and menu. A7R2 just can't replace the 1 system for my portable fun needs.

But point taken. Nikon has to keep the body small. Hopefully Nikon listens.
 
Lookin' good?

This rumor says nothing more than there will be a camera that takes pictures.
Yeah, I am not sure what exactly the rumor says that is a revelation for the V4. 20 MP J4/V3/J5 to 22.x MP. Well big deal.
it suggests new sensor tech,
No, it doesn't necessarily do so. It could be the same characteristics of the J5 sensor but at 22 MP. Not exactly new sensor tech.

I could certainly have a new sensor with new tech that makes it better, but a megapixel bump alone doesn't suggest that. Sure, technically speaking a 22 MP with same characteristics of a 20 MP sensor is better, but hardly a difference worth talking about.
and that Nikon's doubling down on their efforts to lift disappointing sales.
How is it coming with a fairly predictable V4 "Nikon doubling down on their efforts to lift disappointing sales." I am sorry but I don't understand how you can reach that conclusion.

What would do so would be a rumor of a new much lower pricing combined with built in EVF and even standard socket flash support.
IMO ... pretty awesome Nikon didn't just cut and run.
Nikon already had said they planned to come out with new models- again, no revelation. Keep in mind that was an official Nikon statement, and this is a rumor.
 
Never tried the J5, so I can't comment on its AF - but my issue with the V3's AF is not how fast it is (continuous AF at 20fps is more than fast enough). So with regards to NR's rumored V4 spec of "faster AF" - I would hope that it's NOT "faster", but rather that it's "more accurate". I've felt for over a year, now, that the central AF area on the V3 is too large, making it difficult to accurately focus on smaller subjects. Because the V3's AF point is (relatively) large - it tends to overlap smaller targets, thereby causing it to misfocus when backgrounds are bright, contrasty, or very budy. I would hazard a guess that any AF issues with the J5 is related. If Nikon can make the AF point(s) smaller on the V4 without sacrificing AF sensitivity in low light - that would make me a happy camper!
Roy, I'd be interested to know the minimum size of the J5's focus square too. The P900 has a tiny "spot" AF setting that I use almost exclusively, since I mostly shoot birds. Sure hope Nikon makes it an option in the V4.

The P900's AF actually performs pretty well in low light. The problem is, ISO has to be kept really low to get decent IQ. Slow shutter speeds in less-than-great light leads to less-than-great results due to camera/subject movement, especially at long focal lengths.

Following is a link to some P900 images that benefited from the ultra-small focus square. First photo is an extreme example; it was taken at dawn, and I'd forgotten to un-limit ISO, so the shutter speed is half a second (and I was hand-holding.) It's a crummy pic, but you can see that the camera did a great job of threading the focus. http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6691395256/albums/p900-2/slideshow

Don't know if our input will make any difference in Nikon's choices re the V4, but one can hope....the squeaky wheel gets the oil....?

Liz
 
I agree a little larger body would be good. My hands aren't that big and I find buttons and dials too close.
ergonomics and UI will be critical to Nikon's overall N1 success. especially in western markets.

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I can understand that and can't fault Nikon if they decide to change the V's size. But thats what scares me. I think the V2 and V3 are great size wise. I'd hate to see them pander to the 'my hands are too big crowd', But Nikon needs sales.

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A little bigger for more controls wouldn't be too bad, not everyone has children's hands.

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Not being wise, just an honest question. I never saw this as an issue since I just download my photos via USB cable to my PC. A few hundred pictures only take a few minutes. Am I doing something wrong?
 
Not being wise, just an honest question. I never saw this as an issue since I just download my photos via USB cable to my PC. A few hundred pictures only take a few minutes. Am I doing something wrong?
At times using the USB cable is fine but I generally use more than one card per outing. Even large cards fill up rather quickly when shooting raw for sports or BIFs. I motor drive a bit more with the V3 since I'm not about to pick up the viewfinder till I see what the V4 offers.
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Of course, each to his/her own, but for me, on camera flash always leads to poor results, except for fill flash, [...]
And bounce flash, which the N 1 series flashes aren't powerful enough to do, much of the time. And the built in is not powerful enough for fill in full sun at any reasonable distance.
It would be far more useful to have the built in flash able to trigger off camera flash properly.

tom
If the built-in supported CLS, everything else would be forgiven.
 

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