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Looks like the most hated feature of Nikon 1 got it's love from Apple.


In before people say Nikon copied Apple.
 
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JasonED said:
Jose Wayne said:
Looks like the most hated feature of Nikon 1 got it's love from Apple.


In before people say Nikon copied Apple.
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Stills and video have been on a crash course for some time.. Just one step closer..
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The nouveau animated GIF ideas are similar but the executions are different. Nikon's Motion Snaphot is a video file with a single still while Apple's is a full sequence of stills.

If you send the Apple file to someone who doesn't use iOS or OSX they just receive a series of separate 12MP JPGs.

For Nikon's you need their image hosting to view theirs, otherwise it's just a separate low-res video and JPG to anyone else.

Apple will easily win this one because they have 2 billion users who can view their animated GIFs while Nikon only has their 200 Nikon 1 users. Unlike the 1 camera, the iPhone is also a massive content delivery and consumption system.

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anthony mazzeri said:
JasonED said:
Jose Wayne said:
Looks like the most hated feature of Nikon 1 got it's love from Apple.


In before people say Nikon copied Apple.
Click to expand...
Stills and video have been on a crash course for some time.. Just one step closer..
Click to expand...
The nouveau animated GIF ideas are similar but the executions are different. Nikon's Motion Snaphot is a video file with a single still while Apple's is a full sequence of stills.

If you send the Apple file to someone who doesn't use iOS or OSX they just receive a series of separate 12MP JPGs.

For Nikon's you need their image hosting to view theirs, otherwise it's just a separate low-res video and JPG to anyone else.

Apple will easily win this one because they have 2 billion users who can view their animated GIFs while Nikon only has their 200 Nikon 1 users. Unlike the 1 camera, the iPhone is also a massive content delivery and consumption system.

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JasonED said:
some southpark screengrab
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I have no idea what you mean by this.

I'm saying they are both the same, ie an attempt to reboot the Compuserve animated GIF format. Vine is another one to try the same thing, except 6 seconds long. So neither Apple or Nikon are the originators of the idea as per the OP's suggestion that Nikon deserves the credit. And nor are either the first to try to re-boot the GIF either.

The difference is simply the approaches they've taken; one adopting a video file forma similar to Vine, the other a sequence of JPGs animated like an old fashioned flip-book, which is actually closer to the original GIF concept.

Edit: Even JK Rowling rebooted the animated GIF before Nikon did. Apple actually acknowledged Harry Potter in their keynote, and I suspect Nikon should have too.

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anthony mazzeri said:
JasonED said:
some southpark screengrab
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I have no idea what you mean by this.

I'm saying they are both the same, ie an attempt to reboot the Compuserve animated GIF format. Vine is another one to try the same thing, except 6 seconds long. So neither Apple or Nikon are the originators of the idea as per the OP's suggestion that Nikon deserves the credit. And nor are either the first to try to re-boot the GIF either.

The difference is simply the approaches they've taken; one adopting a video file forma similar to Vine, the other a sequence of JPGs animated like an old fashioned flip-book, which is actually closer to the original GIF concept.

Edit: Even JK Rowling rebooted the animated GIF before Nikon did. Apple actually acknowledged Harry Potter in their keynote, and I suspect Nikon should have too.
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Jose Wayne said:
anthony mazzeri said:
JasonED said:
some southpark screengrab
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I have no idea what you mean by this.

I'm saying they are both the same, ie an attempt to reboot the Compuserve animated GIF format. Vine is another one to try the same thing, except 6 seconds long. So neither Apple or Nikon are the originators of the idea as per the OP's suggestion that Nikon deserves the credit. And nor are either the first to try to re-boot the GIF either.

The difference is simply the approaches they've taken; one adopting a video file forma similar to Vine, the other a sequence of JPGs animated like an old fashioned flip-book, which is actually closer to the original GIF concept.

Edit: Even JK Rowling rebooted the animated GIF before Nikon did. Apple actually acknowledged Harry Potter in their keynote, and I suspect Nikon should have too.
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Foxbat121 said:
Nokia also did it on its smartphones a few years back. Alas, the same shortcoming as Nikon, you need specialized software to view it. Even though Apple has a lot of market share but it is still not as popular as Android devices world wide. Not sure if this can catch up or not.

FYI, 2015 Smartphone OS market share

http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

iOS: 13.9%

Android: 82.8%.
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Here's the twist though - all future iPhone photos will be Live Photos by default.

www.theverge.com

First Click: Live Photos could be Apple’s most disruptive new announcement

September 10th, 2015
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com

I'm just disappointed Nikon didn't improve Motion Snapshot to make it a signature feature. And now we see what happens.
 
Just like iMessage didn't replace text message, the other 86% of smartphone users as well as 99% of PC users could care less. Apple no longer has the commanding position to move the mobile industry, IMO.

But we will see.
 
Foxbat121 said:
Just like iMessage didn't replace text message, the other 86% of smartphone users as well as 99% of PC users could care less. Apple no longer has the commanding position to move the mobile industry, IMO.

But we will see.
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Good point.
 
Jose Wayne said:
Foxbat121 said:
Nokia also did it on its smartphones a few years back. Alas, the same shortcoming as Nikon, you need specialized software to view it. Even though Apple has a lot of market share but it is still not as popular as Android devices world wide. Not sure if this can catch up or not.

FYI, 2015 Smartphone OS market share

http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

iOS: 13.9%

Android: 82.8%.
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Here's the twist though - all future iPhone photos will be Live Photos by default.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/10/9300055/live-photos-could-change-photography

I'm just disappointed Nikon didn't improve Motion Snapshot to make it a signature feature. And now we see what happens.
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Isn't Motion Snapshot just the opposit of Live Photo? Motion Snapshot is a snap shot taken during the recording of a movie sequence where Live Photo is a sequence of still images being displayed as a movie. I don't see any connection here.
 
This is a long thread with lots of replies for a feature that basically no one uses.

I would encourage people who love this feature so much to post some samples, because I've been reading this forum for over a year and haven't seen a single "motion-snapshot" posted.
 
Well part of the problem is that you can't see the presentation without a special software.
 
JanMatthys said:
This is a long thread with lots of replies for a feature that basically no one uses.

I would encourage people who love this feature so much to post some samples, because I've been reading this forum for over a year and haven't seen a single "motion-snapshot" posted.
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Apple have said Facebook will be supporting it in their iPhone Facebook app as it's part of the iOS environment now. That likely means the Instagram app as well which they also own.

So there'll be crossover between the billion Facebook users, a billion Instagram users and however many of them are also the billion iPhone owners.

I'm guessing while iPhone Facebook users will be able to see each other's images as Live Photos, non-iPhone users will probably just see a single standard JPG.
 
Foxbat121 said:
Well part of the problem is that you can't see the presentation without a special software.
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It's not special software, it's part of the iOS operating system now. Any iPhone app developer can integrate it into their software now.

So more like special hardware - you need an iPhone to view an iPhone feature, but it could be many different actual apps from different developers on that iPhone.
 
anthony mazzeri said:
Foxbat121 said:
Well part of the problem is that you can't see the presentation without a special software.
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It's not special software, it's part of the iOS operating system now. Any iPhone app developer can integrate it into their software now.

So more like special hardware - you need an iPhone to view an iPhone feature, but it could be many different actual apps from different developers on that iPhone.
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Foxbat121 said:
anthony mazzeri said:
Foxbat121 said:
Well part of the problem is that you can't see the presentation without a special software.
Click to expand...
It's not special software, it's part of the iOS operating system now. Any iPhone app developer can integrate it into their software now.

So more like special hardware - you need an iPhone to view an iPhone feature, but it could be many different actual apps from different developers on that iPhone.
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Seriously?

Apple?

The guys who just invented the MS Surface 2 and the Palm Pilot Stylus????
 
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