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The hype is in your head. No one is shoving it down your throat. Don't tell me you are that easily influenced or gullible.
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Sony A7rII toppled #1 Nikon D810 sensor!
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LOL, so true. Both have had many IDs and each has his own agenda.
If you do the popcorn, I'll do the beer :-D
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Mike CH
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I wonder how many percent of total traffic they actually account for?
Sure - salted, buttered, natural, chocolate coated?
if you could dig up a Weizen that would be my choice for the occasion...
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What exactly is this thread and many more like it in the open forum doing then?
These DxO mark scores are the first time we really had firm info on performance, prior to that it was mostly talk and that talk only "influenced" me in the respect that I think its now been shown to be largely incorrect.
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Makes me wonder why they have limited the A7Rii to 25600 ISO max for video.It's a great sensor, but it certainly doesn't 'wipe the floor' relative to, say, the Nikon D810, which has better base ISO dynamic range and SNR over most, if not all, the tonal range. Which gives the D810 files exposed properly at ISO 64 a more 'medium format look' - because of how clean the files are - than any other camera south of medium format out there. That's not trivial, and kudos to Nikon for prioritizing that in their design of the D810 (yes, I know it's a Sony sensor
That said, the a7R II has incredible ISO performance, practically matching the a7S, and another little surprise that we'll keep you in suspense about until we're ready to publish the studio scene.
So: different beasts for different purposes. Let's not say any one wipes any other camera, but just accept that these cameras have different strengths and weaknesses, yes?
-Rishi
To protect the A7s in some way? or is there a real reason?
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This. Is. Awesome. :-D
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KnightPhoto2
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Yes has absolutely got me thinking about a D820. Appears to be ongoing many reasons that Sony has vaulted to #1 sensor manufacturer in the world. Look at their work in 1", APS=C, and full frame, and don't forget Smartphones. From a photographer's practical perspective, this looks like a sensor that would help my high ISO event work and doubles as a fantastic Landscape sensor and if Nikon can continue to improve fps, a decent wildlife camera too. Quite the potential there!And Nikon if they get their hands on this sensor may improve things further as they have the habit of improving the IQ from Sony sensors over what Sony seems capable of in their cameras.It did, barely though.
Nikon is still the King at Base ISO with a 1 Stop better Dynamic Range. How ever where the A7RII trumps the Nikon is when the ISO increases and the Sony pulls ahead. Half a Stop better at ISO-800 and a Stop Ahead From ISO-1600 onward. Now that seems like a huge improvement. Although we have to see real world images.
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I mean seriously a sensor that goes toe to toe with the A7S and/or D4S (haven't checked that latter stat yet but will) at higher ISOs is a sensor that will benefit event work. I battle limited DR (and noise) when I use my D800E in tandem with my D4. The 800E is a lot more brittle and less forgiving than the D4 in things like concert / theatre at ISOs 5000 and above. Looks very interesting and yes I'd like to see the usual full Nikon treatment on this sensor (14 bit lossless compressed etc.).
Since this is a thread about Sony I will also add the A7Rii itself looks very interesting. Two of my primary genre's are wildlife and concert/theatre so I still need the DSLR optical PDAF - everything I shoot is moving and oftentimes in bad light. And I don't have time in my life to add in yet another cam for fun and experimentation, but the A7Rii does look like a compelling package.
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One man's troll is another man's champion. There are no real trolls, just two different sides who disagree. But yes, I understand you were referencing my contributions and I found it hilarious. I especially liked the part about accolades, that is my goal here, to leave a legacy. Nobody will have an opinion everybody agrees with, but some of us will be remembered longer than others :-D
Think about it, how many threads have been made about just me? How many posts? I'm a freaking legend, even the threads suggesting you all ignore me turn into a posting frenzy ABOUT me. The truth is you guys are just as argumentative and opinionated as I am, the only difference is, you just want to be the ones to throw around the word troll.
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We have come long way, i remember when it was kinda other way round for sonyIt's a great sensor, but it certainly doesn't 'wipe the floor' relative to, say, the Nikon D810, which has better base ISO dynamic range and SNR over most, if not all, the tonal range. Which gives the D810 files exposed properly at ISO 64 a more 'medium format look' - because of how clean the files are - than any other camera south of medium format out there. That's not trivial, and kudos to Nikon for prioritizing that in their design of the D810 (yes, I know it's a Sony sensor
That said, the a7R II has incredible ISO performance, practically matching the a7S, and another little surprise that we'll keep you in suspense about until we're ready to publish the studio scene.
So: different beasts for different purposes. Let's not say any one wipes any other camera, but just accept that these cameras have different strengths and weaknesses, yes?
-Rishi
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Poor A900 got flack even with better lower iso performance. Sony can&t win
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Honestly until Sony comes out with a lens lineup to match Canon and Nikon, a slight sensor advantage doesn't matter much. I understand that the Sony can use a lot of lenses via adaptor but that is cumbersome and not the same as lenses designed and made for a mount.
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I've seen several reviewers mention that A7Rii files do not allow for as much sharpening as D810 files, and that A7Rii RAW are more prone to posterization. This along with 12 Bit RAW files 'might' point the the RAW files being manipulated a little when created to improve results.It's a great sensor, but it certainly doesn't 'wipe the floor' relative to, say, the Nikon D810, which has better base ISO dynamic range and SNR over most, if not all, the tonal range. Which gives the D810 files exposed properly at ISO 64 a more 'medium format look' - because of how clean the files are - than any other camera south of medium format out there. That's not trivial, and kudos to Nikon for prioritizing that in their design of the D810 (yes, I know it's a Sony sensor
That said, the a7R II has incredible ISO performance, practically matching the a7S, and another little surprise that we'll keep you in suspense about until we're ready to publish the studio scene.
So: different beasts for different purposes. Let's not say any one wipes any other camera, but just accept that these cameras have different strengths and weaknesses, yes?
-Rishi
What are your thoughts on sharpening and posterization with the A7Rii vs. the old D810?