Leica Q, 3-shot +-2EV bracket HDR on crappy day in some wind after 3 espressos

I'm curious as to why you shot and processed this in HDR. Except for a tiny bit of sky at the top, it doesn't seem like HDR is needed in this case.

Sam_A said:

I'm curious as to why you shot and processed this in HDR. Except for a tiny bit of sky at the top, it doesn't seem like HDR is needed in this case.

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The answer as an HDR demo is surely literally staring you in the face. It's not just for clouds lol

TheClueless said:

Sam_A said:

I'm curious as to why you shot and processed this in HDR. Except for a tiny bit of sky at the top, it doesn't seem like HDR is needed in this case.

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The answer as an HDR demo is surely literally staring you in the face. It's not just for clouds lol

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Yes I understand that. I would think the Q's sensor could capture the range in this scene without having to do HDR. I guess I'm wrong. No big deal. I was just wondering why.

Long live the Q!

I don't see any real HDR. Pretty much get this from most cameras in one shot. Keep trying though.

JDLaing said:

I don't see any real HDR. Pretty much get this from most cameras in one shot. Keep trying though.

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Maybe the message isn't getting through.

Being able to casually shoot three frames while there being definitely hand movement, and being able to stitch them together without anything in the way of artifacts.

As I said, try it on your M or X.

Sure, it's not a great HDR demo in terms of actual dynamic range but that is not the point.

TheClueless said:

JDLaing said:

I don't see any real HDR. Pretty much get this from most cameras in one shot. Keep trying though.

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Maybe the message isn't getting through.

Being able to casually shoot three frames while there being definitely hand movement, and being able to stitch them together without anything in the way of artifacts.

As I said, try it on your M or X.

Sure, it's not a great HDR demo in terms of actual dynamic range but that is not the point.

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Gee. Image stabilization doesn't hurt either. Keep going. Let's see some more images.

I was impressed as well by the OIS system in the Q as well, but in this case I am impressed how you did not move the camera between shots. Are you suggesting that the Q helped avoiding this problem through operational speed, or are you also giving credit to LR's HDR functionality?

TheClueless said:

ISO 100, 1/1000 <-> 1/60 at F1.7. OIS on.

Was walking back from a coffee-fuelled meeting when I saw someone pointing his camera at this, so did the same.

HDR in LR, any crops due to HDR processing, medium deghost as an insurance policy - though low actually was totally OK here. Auto tone during HDR, no other colour / image processing (i.e. no lens correction either).

The reason I'm posting this is not for it's artistic merit ha but to tell you that if I'd done the same thing on an X and even on an M on that day / in my state, it would have ended up an impressionist painting lol

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Daedalus2000 said:

I was impressed as well by the OIS system in the Q as well, but in this case I am impressed how you did not move the camera between shots. Are you suggesting that the Q helped avoiding this problem through operational speed, or are you also giving credit to LR's HDR functionality?

TheClueless said:

ISO 100, 1/1000 <-> 1/60 at F1.7. OIS on.

Was walking back from a coffee-fuelled meeting when I saw someone pointing his camera at this, so did the same.

HDR in LR, any crops due to HDR processing, medium deghost as an insurance policy - though low actually was totally OK here. Auto tone during HDR, no other colour / image processing (i.e. no lens correction either).

The reason I'm posting this is not for it's artistic merit ha but to tell you that if I'd done the same thing on an X and even on an M on that day / in my state, it would have ended up an impressionist painting lol

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I've alluded to this, but I'm pretty much entirely giving credit to the Q on this - as I said, I could have gotten away in this shot with even low deghost despite the overcast skies, wind and coffee hands.

The high burst speed is what makes it possible, along with the OIS which actually works and the overall snappiness in operation. As I also said, if I'd been in the same situation with an X 113 and even to an extent the 240,the shot had every chance of turning into an impressionist painting once I stitched them together (any merits of this shot being HDR or not aside).

This is the first Leica I've not had serious quibbles with the operating speed of *any* feature. That's truly staggering to me after suffering through the M and the X's in particular. Sure, if this was a Sony, Canon, etc, I'd probably be a tad less staggered. But holding a Leica, it's a bit of a revelation.

Especially compared with the X's, it’s kind of like seeing a retarded kid who always had trouble adding two and two together suddenly one day handing in his critique of Hawking radiation.

HDR is hardly worthwhile on a cloudy or other low contrast day. It's most useful in very high contrast scenes when you tend to block up shadow or blow out highlights; sometimes both. Like you, I was curious about HDR processing and used by M9P for a 3 shot =/- 1 EVF 'quicky'. The lighting was similar; overcast and low contrast.

I ran it in HDR Efex Pro 2 and compared it to a single shot of the same scene. The single shot processed in LR5 bumping up the contrast, saturation and clarity sliders actually did a better job.

Save your HDR efforts for those hopeless high contrast lighted scenes like the always to avoid high noon shots and other previously impossible lighted shots.
Jim

SIGH

As I keep saying, it's a technical demo. Apparently I have to break it down.

Key points:

- No tripod was involved.

- Crappy day.

- Some wind.

- 3 espressos.

1. If you look at the foreground leaves you will notice next to no ghosting.

2. In areas with complex detail, these can be obscured with movement of the camera again between shots. I invite you to examine the frieze in detail.

Now, how that's accomplished is down to a combination of three things, which have *never* existed at the same time in a Leica I've used before.

- Truly fast AF

- Truly fast shot to shot time

- True OIS

As I may have said before, the merits of HDR for the scene is moot. It's that I was able to shoot it to this level that's surprising - for a Leica.