S50:

Samantha163675 · Jul 19, 2003

Hello!

I'm new to posting here, although I have been reading for quite awhile (I had a few problems setting up my account). I'm currently the owner of a Konica KD-400Z (4MP), and wish to upgrade to the Canon Powershot S50. I know the jump from 4MP > 5MP is not great, but I just feel that Canon's colours beat everything - and of course, there are the manual controls for when my photography improves.

However, I do have one concern. Please click on the link below, and scroll down to "Indoor Portrait, No Flash".

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/CS50/CS50PICS.HTM

I find the yellowish cast in AUTO mode very disturbing. I will undoubtedly start to use the manual controls more often, but my worry is from the point of view of time: will I really have to switch to Incandescent every time I shoot indoors? How long does it take to do (is it embedded in a menu or can I set something so I have quick access?)?

When I've been looking at S50 samples, none of them have shown a colour cast quite as prominent as in this example. Is it because everybody is using Incandescent/Manual, or is the situation in the review just a very tough shot? Owners - are all your indoor shots this bad? Could anybody post an inside shot with a person in the photo?

Also, I have heard many bad comments about red eye inside. Does the red eye removal on the camera work? I'm fine with removing red eye with software - but not for every photo.

The S50's photos seem amazing outside. But as I do love to take photos of family and friends, quite a good many of my shots will be inside. I currently don't have problems with my Konica indoors - yet I don't have Canon's colours outside. My Konica is also a great deal smaller than the S50 (about S400 size) - who thinks that Canon will soon make a small 5MP model? Does anyone think I should wait until the 6/7/8MP small models appear - and any idea when this will be?!

Thank you for putting up with all my questions. I would really appreciate a reply to even just one of my many queries - it would really help me out. Thanks!

Samantha

Stevieboroboy · Jul 19, 2003

Are you being serious? Are you really that affected by one photo on a review? Why not buy the camera and do what we all do. Take multiple photos of the same scenne then pick the ones you like. I think your problem is with your indecision and not with Canon. For help with assertiveness visit.
http://www.freeyourmind.info
Steve

Samantha said:
Hello!

I'm new to posting here, although I have been reading for quite
awhile (I had a few problems setting up my account). I'm currently
the owner of a Konica KD-400Z (4MP), and wish to upgrade to the
Canon Powershot S50. I know the jump from 4MP > 5MP is not great,
but I just feel that Canon's colours beat everything - and of
course, there are the manual controls for when my photography
improves.

However, I do have one concern. Please click on the link below, and
scroll down to "Indoor Portrait, No Flash".

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/CS50/CS50PICS.HTM

I find the yellowish cast in AUTO mode very disturbing. I will
undoubtedly start to use the manual controls more often, but my
worry is from the point of view of time: will I really have to
switch to Incandescent every time I shoot indoors? How long does it
take to do (is it embedded in a menu or can I set something so I
have quick access?)?

When I've been looking at S50 samples, none of them have shown a
colour cast quite as prominent as in this example. Is it because
everybody is using Incandescent/Manual, or is the situation in the
review just a very tough shot? Owners - are all your indoor shots
this bad? Could anybody post an inside shot with a person in the
photo?

Also, I have heard many bad comments about red eye inside. Does the
red eye removal on the camera work? I'm fine with removing red eye
with software - but not for every photo.

The S50's photos seem amazing outside. But as I do love to take
photos of family and friends, quite a good many of my shots will be
inside. I currently don't have problems with my Konica indoors -
yet I don't have Canon's colours outside. My Konica is also a great
deal smaller than the S50 (about S400 size) - who thinks that Canon
will soon make a small 5MP model? Does anyone think I should wait
until the 6/7/8MP small models appear - and any idea when this will
be?!

Thank you for putting up with all my questions. I would really
appreciate a reply to even just one of my many queries - it would
really help me out. Thanks!

Samantha

Samantha163675 · Jul 19, 2003

Yes, Steve, I was being serious. I do not have the money to just 'test' all the cameras - any purchase I make must be for a long time. I cannot afford to be more "assertive" - the cost of an error would be $650 (equivalent of UK price). The photo I showed was not merely one from an amateur, but from a professional review - that is why I was concerned. Please reconsider the way you reply to posts - some people will find your manner offensive.

Stevieboroboy said:
Are you being serious? Are you really that affected by one photo on
a review? Why not buy the camera and do what we all do. Take
multiple photos of the same scenne then pick the ones you like. I
think your problem is with your indecision and not with Canon. For
help with assertiveness visit.
http://www.freeyourmind.info
Steve

Stevieboroboy · Jul 19, 2003

Dear Samantha I'm sorry if I came across a little off with you. If you read through your original post you might see how erratic it appears. Sometimes we have to just jump in and take a chance, if you don't like it just take it back to the camera shop and get your money back. The S50 is a good camera though, I think you should by it!

Best wishes
Steve

Samantha said:
Stevieboroboy said:

Are you being serious? Are you really that affected by one photo on
a review? Why not buy the camera and do what we all do. Take
multiple photos of the same scenne then pick the ones you like. I
think your problem is with your indecision and not with Canon. For
help with assertiveness visit.
http://www.freeyourmind.info
Steve

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Samantha163675 · Jul 19, 2003

Dear Steve,

How I wish I could buy it and return it for the full price! In the UK, once the box is opened, I am pretty certain that it is considered second hand. In which case - you'd be lucky to see half your money back. However, I will give Jessops a ring, and see what they say.

As an S50 owner, have you ever shot in Auto indoors? Would you be able to give me a rough estimate of how long it takes to switch the camera to Incandescent? In some situations it simply isn't possible to spend time fiddling about with settings. Thanks Steve.

Stevieboroboy said:
Dear Samantha I'm sorry if I came across a little off with you. If
you read through your original post you might see how erratic it
appears. Sometimes we have to just jump in and take a chance, if
you don't like it just take it back to the camera shop and get your
money back. The S50 is a good camera though, I think you should by
it!

Best wishes
Steve

Geds · Jul 19, 2003

Hi, Samantha.

My S50 is arriving on Monday, can't wait!

From the research i've done, I believe it's possible to save white balance (and other variables) as a custom setting, and this setting can be the default mode. So when you are using your camera indoors, just select the custom setting (with the incandescent lighting as one of the variables, for example) and it will stay that way until you change it.

I'm not 100% on this, but pretty sure.

Al.

Samantha163675 · Jul 19, 2003

Fantastic Al - that would certainly solve the problem! Thanks for your follow up. Let me know how things work out with your S50 (just drop me an e-mail). Upload some sample photos ASAP!

I hope your enjoy your camera.

Geds said:
Hi, Samantha.

My S50 is arriving on Monday, can't wait!

From the research i've done, I believe it's possible to save white
balance (and other variables) as a custom setting, and this setting
can be the default mode. So when you are using your camera indoors,
just select the custom setting (with the incandescent lighting as
one of the variables, for example) and it will stay that way until
you change it.

I'm not 100% on this, but pretty sure.

Al.

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Samantha

Stevieboroboy · Jul 19, 2003

Al you are right.
Samantha check out my S50 photos to see what it's capable of.

http://www.freeyourmind.info/Canon%20S50-Pictures-page%201.htm

I have many indoor shots of my kids and they look great but I won't post them because of the weirdos on the net. All of my good shots go through photshop anyway so any colour changes needed are sorted out easily.

Every camera has flaws in the eyes of the reviewers. The V1 has blue cast the Nikon 5700 can't focus in low light. The G5 has purple fringe the list goes on.

What you need to do is ask yourself what are you looking for in a camera and then make a decision based on that criteria.
I hope this helps.
Steve

Geds said:
Hi, Samantha.

My S50 is arriving on Monday, can't wait!

From the research i've done, I believe it's possible to save white
balance (and other variables) as a custom setting, and this setting
can be the default mode. So when you are using your camera indoors,
just select the custom setting (with the incandescent lighting as
one of the variables, for example) and it will stay that way until
you change it.

I'm not 100% on this, but pretty sure.

Al.

Stevieboroboy · Jul 19, 2003

Jessops will price match the web price, they did for me. You can now get it for £388 which is ridiculously cheap for the standard of the cam. I paid$429 a couple of months ago and I thought that was cheap! Check out.

http://www.prcdirect.co.uk/PRC/PRC.storefront/EN/product/PSS50

Also Jessops give a 28 day no quibble money back guarantee so there is no risk!

Regards
Steve

Samantha said:
How I wish I could buy it and return it for the full price! In the
UK, once the box is opened, I am pretty certain that it is
considered second hand. In which case - you'd be lucky to see half
your money back. However, I will give Jessops a ring, and see what
they say.

As an S50 owner, have you ever shot in Auto indoors? Would you be
able to give me a rough estimate of how long it takes to switch the
camera to Incandescent? In some situations it simply isn't possible
to spend time fiddling about with settings. Thanks Steve.

Stevieboroboy said:

Dear Samantha I'm sorry if I came across a little off with you. If
you read through your original post you might see how erratic it
appears. Sometimes we have to just jump in and take a chance, if
you don't like it just take it back to the camera shop and get your
money back. The S50 is a good camera though, I think you should by
it!

Best wishes
Steve

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