RX100 IV preliminary impression

AFishEye said:

invu said:

But how do you find the image quality between the A6000 + kit lens and the RX100 IV? I have a brand new A6000 in front of me but I'm thinking about returning it back and take a RX100 IV. 4K is not really important to me. What it is important is the image quality and the portability as this will be a travel camera. I'd prefer not to "show off" my camera (A6000+lenses) every time I go out. And between those two, the camera that will allow me to put it in the pocket is the RX100 IV.

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a6K=24 MP APS-C sensor, and outstanding AF system. Even with kit lens it will give you much more latitude in most (if not all) situations (and if not, Sony has some reasonably priced fast primes). The question is what are the images used for.

Portability favors the RX100 hands down but you are paying a very high premium for it (and a lot of it is for the 4K that you don't really care for)!

Tough question to answer because I don't know your shooting style and subjects but if 4K is not important to you and superior stills is all you care about, go for the a6K. If you really like it, the road to upgrading to more expensive lens is open (16-70 CZ f4) and these lens will keep going with you as you change bodies. I wanted a carry everywhere camera, it will not replace my a6K that I use with 10-18, 16-70, 70-200, 70-400. To me, the RX100 is the second camera (that is likely to be used more often than the primary one)

Bottom line: get the a6K

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AFishEye said:

invu said:

AFishEye said:

invu said:

AFishEye said:

Keep in mind that fixed lens is exactly what it means, fixed lens.

If you find that you love ultra wide angel shots or you often like to shoot beyond 70mm, you're out of luck with the RX100. If it's your secondary camera, you are not out of luck.
If this is your first and only camera, you don't even know yet what will be most exciting to you.
In my personal opinion, the a6K with the kit lens is far from being a "show off" expensive camera, the RX100 IV costs more.

The 1" sensor is a technological marvel but it is no APS-C. As tjp stated, he is looking to compliment his D800. No one is their right mind would think that 20MP 1" can outresolve a 24MP APS-C and, even more so, D800 36MP FF sensor. However, he also knows that his big brick is staying home more often than he would like to; thus, he is missing a lot of great photo ops that he would be happy getting with a 1" sensor. If you are into video, the RX100 IV is vastly superior to the a6K and the D800.

If you are set on getting the RX100, get the Mark III; what's the point of getting the Mark IV if 4K is not a priority?

For what it is, the RX100 does very well in low light. However, A6K with a fast prime will get you much better results.

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Well even if the 4K is the main thing about the IV, it seems that it's a general improvement over the III, also in picture-taking, not?

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The improvement in RAW quality between the III and IV is negligible to non existent

Based on the data posted, JPEG engine seems to be somewhat better but I shoot RAW

AFishEye said:

Even if I know that it's 500$+ more expensive actually.

And for me it doesn't matter that the IV is even more expensive than the A6000, what it matters is that I can hide it in my pocket and I don't have to carry around with a shoulder strap (if I don't have a backpack). For sure that depends from the places you go.

The best thing is to get both! Maybe that's why I can see that many people here have both of them. Because they complement each other very well.

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Agreed, they do complement each other very well. The RX100 is a great compliment to any larger sensor ILC

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A very newbie question: with the RX100 IV you can still set everything to manual and control every setting just like in the A6K?

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Absolutley. In some ways it's even more advanced as you have more precise control over your Auto ISO (Mark IV only) for example. This little machine is not short on features.

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Tom Ames said:

The improved auto ISO is the main improvement for me in the MIV and why I chose it over the M3. So happy that Sony listened to everyone that wanted this implemented.
Am very pleased with my RX100IV !

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AFishEye said:

gregh57 said:

thanks for sharing parts of your workflow - I'm thinking of getting the V4 as my first ever really expensive camera and it has been worrying me how I will go with something this complex as I want to switch between video and stills. From reading your comments here it gives me confidence that with a bit of planning and study I can get an efficient workflow. Much appreciated, the info you have given is not often covered in reviews

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My pleasure. It really is a fun camera to play with and like everything else, when you repeat certain steps time and again they become second nature.

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