So...is the A7RII getting lossless RAW, or what?

If anyone had any idea you'd be reading about it.

-Dave-
 
Show us a few of the photos you've taken that require lossless raw please.
 
Show us a few of the photos you've taken that require lossless raw please.

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The A7rii also records shots taken with 'c-af' and silent shutter at 12 bits while it records 's-af' at 14 bits. Does this make much difference?
 
The A7rii also records shots taken with 'c-af' and silent shutter at 12 bits while it records 's-af' at 14 bits. Does this make much difference?
How do you know this? The a7s records continuous shutter shots and silent shutter shots at 12-bits, but never records data that fully populates a 14-bit histogram.

Jim
 
The A7rii also records shots taken with 'c-af' and silent shutter at 12 bits while it records 's-af' at 14 bits. Does this make much difference?
How do you know this? The a7s records continuous shutter shots and silent shutter shots at 12-bits, but never records data that fully populates a 14-bit histogram.

Jim
 
My question: if there were a general consensus as to who are the best professional photographers in the world and ow we asked each whether any of this stuff mattered, what would they say? I think the responses would be 100% the same.
 
The A7rii also records shots taken with 'c-af' and silent shutter at 12 bits while it records 's-af' at 14 bits. Does this make much difference?
How do you know this? The a7s records continuous shutter shots and silent shutter shots at 12-bits, but never records data that fully populates a 14-bit histogram.

Jim

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Yeah, that's the same thing they said about the a7S. The 14-bit part wasn't accurate, at least to the point of getting fully-populated histograms, even at levels low enough that the cRAW tone curve was linear. We'll have to wait to see if it's true of the a7RII. They'd have to change the compression algorithm to make it so.
Same thing with A7R II. There was this ISO 100 RAW file available for download for a day or so before it was remowed and I checked that one with RAWDigger: even at the low levels the histograms were still not fully populated, just 13 bits just like the previous models.
 
Show us a few of the photos you've taken that require lossless raw please.
I just switched to sony from nikon and I'm very happy but the first pictures I took with A7II were bags of coffee in studio (flash + 90mm macro) and I got something very surprising, kind of jpeg compression artifacts around text and moire.
I shoot the same bags a week before with a nikon d610 and there were no problems, so I think in part the problem is raw compression.

(the following screen capture are taken in PNG so what you see is what I get from Lr, maybe watch the original file and not the preview)

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Show us a few of the photos you've taken that require lossless raw please.
I just switched to sony from nikon and I'm very happy but the first pictures I took with A7II were bags of coffee in studio (flash + 90mm macro) and I got something very surprising, kind of jpeg compression artifacts around text and moire.
I shoot the same bags a week before with a nikon d610 and there were no problems, so I think in part the problem is raw compression.

(the following screen capture are taken in PNG so what you see is what I get from Lr, maybe watch the original file and not the preview)

a14d9e0e5ad14c7e85c442dc6540f946.jpg.png

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The reason probably is that the D610 anti-aliasing filter is stronger then the one in the A7II.

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thank you but I'm not much worried by the moire, I can take it away in capture one, my biggest problem are the compression artefacts inside text, looks like a medium quality jpeg, not a raw.

Also on the left where is moire there is a lot of compression
 
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Show us a few of the photos you've taken that require lossless raw please.
I just switched to sony from nikon and I'm very happy but the first pictures I took with A7II were bags of coffee in studio (flash + 90mm macro) and I got something very surprising, kind of jpeg compression artifacts around text and moire.
I shoot the same bags a week before with a nikon d610 and there were no problems, so I think in part the problem is raw compression.

(the following screen capture are taken in PNG so what you see is what I get from Lr, maybe watch the original file and not the preview)
The reason probably is that the D610 anti-aliasing filter is stronger then the one in the A7II.
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Tommie
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In this case I believe it is a matter of simple moire. The coffee bag is probably printed with a coarse offset printing technique, and the gradient towards the sides contain some halftone screens. Problematic subject with a AA-less camera and sharp optics.
 
The A7rii also records shots taken with 'c-af' and silent shutter at 12 bits while it records 's-af' at 14 bits. Does this make much difference?
How do you know this? The a7s records continuous shutter shots and silent shutter shots at 12-bits, but never records data that fully populates a 14-bit histogram.

Jim
 
The A7rii also records shots taken with 'c-af' and silent shutter at 12 bits while it records 's-af' at 14 bits. Does this make much difference?
How do you know this? The a7s records continuous shutter shots and silent shutter shots at 12-bits, but never records data that fully populates a 14-bit histogram.

Jim
 
The A7rii also records shots taken with 'c-af' and silent shutter at 12 bits while it records 's-af' at 14 bits. Does this make much difference?
How do you know this? The a7s records continuous shutter shots and silent shutter shots at 12-bits, but never records data that fully populates a 14-bit histogram.

Jim
 

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