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a 25 mm 1.7, really ???
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No you are not the only one. There is already a thread on this very topic with multiple participants holding discussions.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56154282
That thread started with 'what's the purpose of this lens'.
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Read the release:
"The new lens also supports high speed digital signal exchange at 240 fps to comply with the high-speed, high-precision AF (Auto Focus) with DFD (Depth From Defocus) technology on the LUMIX G cameras."
Updated internal technology which the older lenses don't support.
that makes no sense at all. Then they should have released a leica 25 mm 1.4 mark ii. A 25 mm f 1.7 does is just not interesting at all, unless its at least half the price of the 25 mm 1.4 leica. It seems so crazy the Leica is stellar, then update that brilliant design with new tech, this is a joke for sure.
Also it seems to be a odd lense to start with if its to make a new tech availeble. It would have made SO MUCH more sense to put a 17 mm f1.4 to the market. It would be a more widely used focal length, it would add something new that many would want (f 1.4 in wideangle) and hence it could attract byers from both camps. Sometimes it seems that the marketing staff at these major companies are so out of touch with their own product its incredible.
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This also means that older Panasonic and Olympus lenses will not function with DFD (Depth From Defocus) technology.
There is so no shortage of 25mm lenses! Off the top of my head: Pan/Leica 25/1.4, Panny 25/1.7, Oly 25/1.8, Voigt 25/.95, SLR Magic 25/.95, Kowa 25/1.8....
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If it's better than Oly 25mm and cheaper, it's a win-win. Even if it's not better, but is cheaper, it's still a win. If it's as expensive as the Oly, it still would make sense for Panasonic users.
Some may say there's no shortage of 25mm primes in MFT world. But I don't agree. Two autofocusing standard prime is not a lot, really. Especially when one is 400 EUR, and the other is 600 EUR. Not what I'd call affordable. This situation is very different to the DSLR world, where there's quite a bit more choice. A lot more in terms of affordable options as well.
And since Panasonic is pushing their DFD technology, they really need to make sure their users have a choice of lenses that can actually make good use of it.
Some may say there's no shortage of 25mm primes in MFT world. But I don't agree. Two autofocusing standard prime is not a lot, really. Especially when one is 400 EUR, and the other is 600 EUR. Not what I'd call affordable. This situation is very different to the DSLR world, where there's quite a bit more choice. A lot more in terms of affordable options as well.
And since Panasonic is pushing their DFD technology, they really need to make sure their users have a choice of lenses that can actually make good use of it.
Dave Lively
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One thing m43 lacks that most SLR systems have is a f1.7 or f1.8 standard prime that costs $200 or less. At $300 the Olympus 25mm comes pretty close unless you compare it to the $125 50mm SLR lenses. While I have always heard the really cheap 50s are soft and hazy wide open the 35mm f1.8 I had for my Nikon D90 was a good lens and only cost $200.
We do not know what this lens will cost but with the Olympus 25 currently selling for $300 Panasonic will have a hard time charging more for theirs. If it lack OIS I am guessing it will sell for about $250 or less after it has been out a while.
We do not know what this lens will cost but with the Olympus 25 currently selling for $300 Panasonic will have a hard time charging more for theirs. If it lack OIS I am guessing it will sell for about $250 or less after it has been out a while.
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Not in Europe unfortunately. We have to pay 400 EUR for this. Which makes the price difference between MFT and DSLRs even bigger.
I really hope Panasonic can offer this at a more accessible price. But I kinda have a feeling they'll just ask 400 EUR for it as well. On the other hand, I expect it will be slightly better than Oly 25.
In the mean time, we see Canon releasing EF 50/1.8 STM at 1/3 of that price. Sure, it is nowhere near as good wide open, but it's one third the price, and is very good when stopped down.
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Could be a winner if reasonably priced (like the Nikon 50 f1.8, 160 Euros) and with great optical performance.
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Where did I say that?
It is a sign of the maturity of a system when they start filling in the gaps. Once it was "any new lens will do", now we are getting "picky". We don't have to buy every one that comes on to the market.
A couple of sakes on a Friday night and one of a group of salary-men says "I think I could run up a design for a 25/1.7 blindfold". So they put him to the test and he could sing karioke at the same time ..... Amazing.
Traditonally the 50mm "original" lens has been a full house with individual manufacturers producing a slew of models - f2.8, f2.0, f1.7/1,8, f1,4, f1.2 even f1.0/0.95 to show that they knew how to build a lens. I think that there was the odd f3.5 as well.
Simply put - this was and is a good general focal length and popular with users. Often a slower lens might be a sharper lens or have some other attribute (more compact for example). As far as I know here are some really great elderly f1.4 and f1.7 50mm lenses about.
Before I get corrected I am quite aware that a FF 50mm on M4/3 is really a 100mm eq. But there is no reason why history might not be repeating itself but this time with 25mm lenses in 4/3 sensor format.
To say that 25mm lenses are all equals is hardly true and one more lens to choose from has to be good news for shoppers with specific tastes.
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dulynoted
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I bet it has ois to work with their new dual is system. The 42.5 has ois and the 25 will too. Next will be something wider. They are going to try and squash the olympus primes and 5 axis ibis advantage.
That extra f0.1 of light gathering man! I will sell my Oly 25 for this. :-D
On a more serious note, Pan 25 F1.4 is too big so makes sense why they want to release a more compact but still fast glass. Competition never a bad thing.
On a more serious note, Pan 25 F1.4 is too big so makes sense why they want to release a more compact but still fast glass. Competition never a bad thing.
well the issuebis that there are still obvious holes in the lineup that needs filling
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