Best stand alone storage for 10D (D60, D30, D1, D1s, D1x etc)

Now I found online Archos Multimedia Jukebox 20GB. That seems very nice and not expensive device. It doesn't display RAW, but I don't need that as much. Do you know if you can zoom on JPEGs and how long last batery (MP3, images...). Is it realiable?

thanks,
Radim
Hi,
Looking through many threads in past I am not convinced by any
portable HDD storage that could read Compact Flash.

I am (and probably everyone who wants to do a longer trip)
mainly looking for reliable device that can store images from my
10D camera. Batery life and indicator is quite essential. Looking
at pictures (zooming) on is very good feature to check that all
pictures are well exposed and with good detail.

I have been looking mainly at Nixvue Vista, V-MP3H and FlashTrax.
None of them can preview RAW files or embeded JPG (as fas I
researched). All of them take forever to preview pictures (20 sec
etc..) and not all of them have good batery life or don't have
indicator. Prices are high for all of them. Mp3 playback is nice
feature, but not necessary.

Do you have an experince with these devices or similar ones to
recomend any?
thanks,
Radim
 
I bought an EZDigiMagic portable CD burner to take with us to Norway. It was around $325. It has a slot in front for a CF card and an adapter to accept most anything else - SmartMedia, Memory stick, SecureDigital. It can run on 4 rechargeable AA batteries, or an AC adapter, or you can buy a cord that plugs into an auto cigarette lighter. My wife and I both had two 512Mb CF cards. Each time we filled a card, we burned a CD. We normally did our transferring back in our hotel rooms with the AC adapter plugged into a voltage converter.

It doesn't have an LCD screen, but it will tell you if the burn is successful or not, plus, you can look at the CD and tell it was burned. I tested it extensively before we left home and found it very reliable. (One exception: it has problems reading from Lexar CF cards, but they are working on a fix for that.)

Now that we're back from our trip, I've been processing the 10D RAW pictures directly from the CD through CaptureOne LE.

I chose this over a portable hard drive because it stores the pictures on very inexpensive media - as low as 10 cents each, and you can keep your pictures separate from hardware that someone might want to steal. You can also burn your memory card as many times as you want before reusing it. Although portable hard drives with memory card slots are available and are somewhat smaller and lighter, the mere fact that these hard drives store all your pictures in ONE place made me choose the EZDigiMagic instead.
Hi,
Looking through many threads in past I am not convinced by any
portable HDD storage that could read Compact Flash.

I am (and probably everyone who wants to do a longer trip)
mainly looking for reliable device that can store images from my
10D camera. Batery life and indicator is quite essential. Looking
at pictures (zooming) on is very good feature to check that all
pictures are well exposed and with good detail.

I have been looking mainly at Nixvue Vista, V-MP3H and FlashTrax.
None of them can preview RAW files or embeded JPG (as fas I
researched). All of them take forever to preview pictures (20 sec
etc..) and not all of them have good batery life or don't have
indicator. Prices are high for all of them. Mp3 playback is nice
feature, but not necessary.

Do you have an experince with these devices or similar ones to
recomend any?
thanks,
Radim
 
How do you like the G2 I have been looking in the staorge forum for a minireview but have not seen anything yet.
Same here except I have an Image Tank G2 (20 GB). I use it at
weddings and it's just fine.

I don't care for a review LCD (which would drain the battery
anyway). One nice feature would be a video out plug to check
images on a TV. It would be nice on a trip but not necessary at
all. I check my images in the field on my 10D.
--
Marc Jutras
http://www.marcjutras.com
 
Now I found online Archos Multimedia Jukebox 20GB. That seems very
nice and not expensive device. It doesn't display RAW, but I don't
need that as much. Do you know if you can zoom on JPEGs and how
long last batery (MP3, images...). Is it realiable?

thanks,
Radim
The Archos is a great gadget but far from perfect.

The thing that annoys me most about it is the battery life, Archos quote up to 7 hours for MP3 playback on a full charge but I rarely get this long.

The battery is also a proprietary rechargeable design which you cannot replace yourself, and as with most rechargeables it will wear out after so many cycles. There are 2 cells in series or parallel which power the device. At present Archos do not have any information on their website about what will be available to owners once the cells' life is up, and I wouldn't be surprised if we'll end up with a device with a dud battery that cannot be replaced. Several Archos suppliers have tried to source a battery replacement but it sounds as though the design was possibly a custom batch rather than one which is freely available. I may be wrong but I seem to remember reading about a similar issue with the Apple iPod in that users could not get replacement battery cells for it, but perhaps the situation has changed.

From a full charge on the Archos I'm not sure how many transfers you'd get from a CF card before depleting power, but provided you had a daily facility for mains powering/recharging it would probably be OK - certainly not something you could take on a several day jungle trek without electricity though!

BTW if you have microdrives some work with it, some don't. (My 340MB does, my 1GB doesn't)

The CF card copying is just a copy with no verification process.

The screen is quite small and reviewing images is slow so I tend not to bother. Yes there's an element of risk involved that they may be corrupted but I haven't had this problem personally. Reviewing on screen on battery power would rapidly drain power too. Limited zoom facility only. There is a TV out option (the movie playback isn't quite VHS quality but it's quite watchable - there are newer versions out now with better video quality, and also there are recorder modules available which give you in effect a digital VCR).

I think the biggest issue for most of these devices for image playback is the size of the images we now have - a 6 megapixel JPG will decompress to an 18MB file in Photoshop, and few of these portable devices have much RAM. Viewing small 1-2 megapixel sized images is I suspect what Archos thought people would be doing when they designed the device.

As an MP3 player it works very well. The user interface is a bit clunky, and accessing files is just like browsing a directory structure but I think ths sound quality is pretty good (use some different headphones though).

The standard device is not USB 2.0 capable but there's an add-on cable which allows USB 2.0 transfers via the module interface. The newer version of the Archos MMJB is USB 2.0 by default and comes in 20/40GB versions with a faster processor which allows better video recording/playback and might be a better buy and more usable if this is important to you. No idea if battery life is any worse/better. There's also a much larger AV340 model available with a fair sized screen and price tag.

I think all these devices are in their infancy, and in a year or so there'll be far more options.

Hope that helps you a bit.

When I bought the Archos there were really no cheap alternatives for image storage freely available in UK and I think it was the best option at the time given it's additional functionality, but remember it's a bit of a jack of all trades rather than a dedicated photo storage device.

RW
 
Can you copy any kind of files back to CF card on Nixvue Vista?

I am intested to buy a Vista for viewing images and put from my computer some MP3s. Than I would like to download these back onto a CompactFlash card and play it in little portable CF MP3 player without HDD.

thanks!
 
I was going to Ireland this past Spring and wanted a small storage
device - not a laptop. I had the G3 at the time, not the 10D.
Like some others have mentioned, I wanted to be able to see that
the files were actually transferred so went with the Vista which
has an LCD screen. I got the 20GB model.
I think that, feature-wise, the Nixvue Vista is perfect. But it's not cheap. The smallest model is about $450 even at B&H.

Andy
 
Radim Schreiber:

I'm beating a dead horse here, but why would you spend $400+ on a Nixvue Vista when you could spend that much and get a Toshiba Libretto 110CT mini laptop? With 7" TFT LCD, 2 PCMCIA ports for CF cards or USB/Firewire adapters. Heck you could do remote capture. It'll take a 60GB internal hard drive too.

The thing is:

Depth 5.2 in.
Height 1.38 in.
Weight 2.21 lb.
Width 8.27 in.

--
Jason
 
Yes, you are, I just bought Vista. BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME THIS EARLIER! :-) ...something to consider for future. It would be great to have small computer that can do everything... almost... and not only device that can display images.

thanks
R
Radim Schreiber:

I'm beating a dead horse here, but why would you spend $400+ on a
Nixvue Vista when you could spend that much and get a Toshiba
Libretto 110CT mini laptop? With 7" TFT LCD, 2 PCMCIA ports for CF
cards or USB/Firewire adapters. Heck you could do remote capture.
It'll take a 60GB internal hard drive too.

The thing is:

Depth 5.2 in.
Height 1.38 in.
Weight 2.21 lb.
Width 8.27 in.

--
Jason
 
It must be aggravating to ask a simple question and get responses that don't answer your question.

The answer is, "yes". There is a function built into the VISTA to copy files back to CF card. I tried by copying an MP3 to the VISTA and then using the copy to CF function to copy the MP3 to the CF Card. Then I viewed the contents of the CF and the MP3 had been copied to it.

Hope this helps.

DWB
 
Jason -

Which Libretto are you using? I see they can be picked up relatively cheaply and was considering it, but for this purpose of primarily storing and viewing pics is the 75mhz and 16meg enough?

Also, have you seen any sort of adapter for it that would provide for display on a TV as well? Or would this just be done thru a converter on the monitor plug of the IO Adapter?

I did see the Fuji style you mentioned also...a tad larger and goes for quite a bit more in general...would be nice if the Toshiba could fit the bill.
I use a Toshiba Libretto with a 20 GB hard drive internal and have
other external laptop drives that attach via USB/Firewire PCMCIA
card. Fuji has a mini laptop now too.

If you guys find something more dependable; let me know.

--
Jason
 
It must be aggravating to ask a simple question and get responses
that don't answer your question.

The answer is, "yes". There is a function built into the VISTA to
copy files back to CF card. I tried by copying an MP3 to the VISTA
and then using the copy to CF function to copy the MP3 to the CF
Card. Then I viewed the contents of the CF and the MP3 had been
copied to it.

Hope this helps.

DWB
 
Brad

Yes it is an older computer. Yes it is readily available from Ebay and other commercial sources. There is a "newer" sub-compact laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 1000 -2021 models, but the good versions go for $1700 - not $300, like the Libretto 110CT. I have the 100CT it runs W98 or NT4 well; the 110CT might run WinXP/W2000, I'm not sure. Whatever it runs is better than the software available in a Nixvue whatever, that is more expensive, less flexible, and doesn't do anything else, or what it is supposed to do, better than a tiny laptop from years back.

I try recommend the best solution for any given problem. I think all of these little special image vault items are limited, proprietary, and overpriced.

Sorry, just trying to help.

--
Jason
 
After similar shopping I keep deciding that just carrying a laptop is the best solution. I wrote my own tools to deal with workflow, and I find being able to burn CDs (DVDs now) on the road, write in my journal, etc. well worth the extra weight and size.

YMMV
 
Bump
Why not use a small laptop.
Jason
Yeah, a laptop is a good solution but I think he is looking for
something smaller, less costly and dedicated to simply storing
images fro the camera... I know I am.

I would love to have a device about the size of a PDA that had
about 40 to 80 gig of storage space AND an Color LCD on it you
could use to review images and selectivly delete them... for about
$399 or less.

Jim Radcliffe
--------------------------
http://www.image36.com
The ability to 'see' is more important than the gear.
 
I liked this and the price isn't bad.....

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007KDX5/easternplus-20/ref%3Dnosim/102-3019498-2150539

Ken
Hi,
Looking through many threads in past I am not convinced by any
portable HDD storage that could read Compact Flash.

I am (and probably everyone who wants to do a longer trip)
mainly looking for reliable device that can store images from my
10D camera. Batery life and indicator is quite essential. Looking
at pictures (zooming) on is very good feature to check that all
pictures are well exposed and with good detail.

I have been looking mainly at Nixvue Vista, V-MP3H and FlashTrax.
None of them can preview RAW files or embeded JPG (as fas I
researched). All of them take forever to preview pictures (20 sec
etc..) and not all of them have good batery life or don't have
indicator. Prices are high for all of them. Mp3 playback is nice
feature, but not necessary.

Do you have an experince with these devices or similar ones to
recomend any?
thanks,
Radim
 
Richard:

Specifically, which Archos device are you talking about? I've heard the newer AV120 resolves many of the issues you mentioned? I'm hoping you are talking about one of the older models otherwise I will have to rethink my considering the purchase fo the AV120 device.

Regards,
David
Now I found online Archos Multimedia Jukebox 20GB. That seems very
nice and not expensive device. It doesn't display RAW, but I don't
need that as much. Do you know if you can zoom on JPEGs and how
long last batery (MP3, images...). Is it realiable?

thanks,
Radim
The Archos is a great gadget but far from perfect.

The thing that annoys me most about it is the battery life, Archos
quote up to 7 hours for MP3 playback on a full charge but I rarely
get this long.

The battery is also a proprietary rechargeable design which you
cannot replace yourself, and as with most rechargeables it will
wear out after so many cycles. There are 2 cells in series or
parallel which power the device. At present Archos do not have any
information on their website about what will be available to owners
once the cells' life is up, and I wouldn't be surprised if we'll
end up with a device with a dud battery that cannot be replaced.
Several Archos suppliers have tried to source a battery replacement
but it sounds as though the design was possibly a custom batch
rather than one which is freely available. I may be wrong but I
seem to remember reading about a similar issue with the Apple iPod
in that users could not get replacement battery cells for it, but
perhaps the situation has changed.

From a full charge on the Archos I'm not sure how many transfers
you'd get from a CF card before depleting power, but provided you
had a daily facility for mains powering/recharging it would
probably be OK - certainly not something you could take on a
several day jungle trek without electricity though!

BTW if you have microdrives some work with it, some don't. (My
340MB does, my 1GB doesn't)

The CF card copying is just a copy with no verification process.

The screen is quite small and reviewing images is slow so I tend
not to bother. Yes there's an element of risk involved that they
may be corrupted but I haven't had this problem personally.
Reviewing on screen on battery power would rapidly drain power too.
Limited zoom facility only. There is a TV out option (the movie
playback isn't quite VHS quality but it's quite watchable - there
are newer versions out now with better video quality, and also
there are recorder modules available which give you in effect a
digital VCR).

I think the biggest issue for most of these devices for image
playback is the size of the images we now have - a 6 megapixel JPG
will decompress to an 18MB file in Photoshop, and few of these
portable devices have much RAM. Viewing small 1-2 megapixel sized
images is I suspect what Archos thought people would be doing when
they designed the device.

As an MP3 player it works very well. The user interface is a bit
clunky, and accessing files is just like browsing a directory
structure but I think ths sound quality is pretty good (use some
different headphones though).

The standard device is not USB 2.0 capable but there's an add-on
cable which allows USB 2.0 transfers via the module interface. The
newer version of the Archos MMJB is USB 2.0 by default and comes
in 20/40GB versions with a faster processor which allows better
video recording/playback and might be a better buy and more usable
if this is important to you. No idea if battery life is any
worse/better. There's also a much larger AV340 model available
with a fair sized screen and price tag.

I think all these devices are in their infancy, and in a year or so
there'll be far more options.

Hope that helps you a bit.

When I bought the Archos there were really no cheap alternatives
for image storage freely available in UK and I think it was the
best option at the time given it's additional functionality, but
remember it's a bit of a jack of all trades rather than a dedicated
photo storage device.

RW
 

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