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G7 Review - second visit
dulynoted
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I agree that ibis isnt necessary, people shoot without it all the time. Shoulder rigs, tripods etc are all options. 4k is great and the ability to do slides and such in post is great. But a few comparisons have shown the oly ibis in the em5 mark 2 is still better than a software solution in post. I personally also wouldnt want to arbitrarily crop my footage for stabilization (I tend to frame precisely and dislike cropping). I personally compared the two options and decided on the em5 mark 2 as I would prefer to not carry a shoulder rig with me everywhere. The ability to get steadicam like results anywhere anytime is incredibly enticing to me as I simply wont shoot video if I know it is going to be bad. If however you are doing video specifically and intend to use a rig (the new pocket rig two from edelkrone looks very promising and would match the g7 extremely well) than 4k is by far the better option.
In the DPReview E-M1 review, Shutter Shock is not mentioned in the Cons and there is a sentence in the summary:Yes, not just the E-M1, but also the E-P5, E-M5 and E-M10 exhibited shutter shock. Olympus remedied this in all of the above via firmware updates except the E-M5 (figures, I own one ;-) ), so I'd imagine Panasonic may be able to do so with the G7 as well.I sure hope this camera doesn't fall through the cracks like other Panasonic m4/3 cameras, I was hoping there'd be some competition for the Olympus cameras.
Anyway, it is mentioned about the shutter shock. If I recall didn't the EM1 have the same complaint when it first came out? Can shutter shock be taken care of with an update?
And thankfully, the image shake issue that has plagued some Olympus cameras does not appear to be a problem in the E-M1 as compared to the E-P5.
So whether SS was an E-M1 problem solved later, I'm not sure.
It would be great if Panasonic could come up with a solution -- or just buy Olympus's zero delay solution and use it. This is a systemic problem for m43.
jeffharris
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With more recent lighter weight lenses SS seems to be more of an issue than with more solidly built lenses. A system solution WOULD be something that should be called for, regardless of whether it's Olympus or Panasonic.
sderdiarian
Senior Member
Rather than continuing to flog this dead horse, might be helpful to balance it with a review from another reputable site:
"The unique selling point of the Lumix G7 may be 4k video, but even if you ignore this feature entirely, it remains a highly compelling mid-range camera. The performance and feature-set is amongst the best of its peer group, and as I've said before having access to the extensive Micro Four Thirds lens catalogue is a key benefit for Panasonic and Olympus bodies.
Even if you don't have a 4k TV though, the capability to record video with four times the detail of 1080p is more flexible than you think. For starters, it downscales to 1080p very nicely, while also giving you the chance to punch-in and out of footage on a Full HD timeline with a single body setup and no loss of quality. Panasonic's 4k Photo mode is also a cunning application which lets you extract 8 Megapixel stills from footage recorded at 30fps, which is effective for capturing the decisive moment, not just for sports for even portraits.
For all the reasons mentioned in this verdict section, I find the Lumix G7 far more compelling than DSLRs pitched at the same price point. The real competition here comes from rival mirrorless cameras, particularly Sony's A6000 (for its superior burst and continuous AF), Fujifilm's XT10 (for it's superb imaging pipeline), and the Olympus OMD EM10 (for its built-in stabilisation). You should carefully compare the feature sets of all these models to see if one's a better fit for how and what you shoot, but if you're into video or just want a great all-round mid-range camera, the Lumix G7 is hard to beat at this price point."
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Panasonic_Lumix_G7/verdict.shtml
Granted, this is from pretty much a one man operation, not a staff of 15 (4 editors, 5 reviewers, 1 photographer, 3 web developers and 2 product managers).
DPR does a great many things well including articles on technique, features on photographers, fun and informative videos, interviews, news reports, useful tools (side-by-side-comparison), a fantastic range of forums to select from and, yes, reviews, which many of us wait for before making purchases. Keep up the good work.
But every so often even they can simply miss the point of a camera. And while the "Express Review" concept may have merit with point & shoots, given the G7's unique featureset and capabilities at its price level, it warranted a full and objective review.
Water under the bridge. As always, before making a purchase read reviews from numerous reliable sources, check out user reviews on B&H and Amazon (very positive, see below for links) and, if at all possible, handle the camera yourself. In the end, were each the best judge of our own needs.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...l&Q=&sku=1148282&is=REG&si=rev#costumerReview
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC...oto&ie=UTF8&qid=1436584104&sr=1-1&keywords=g7
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Sailin' Steve
"The unique selling point of the Lumix G7 may be 4k video, but even if you ignore this feature entirely, it remains a highly compelling mid-range camera. The performance and feature-set is amongst the best of its peer group, and as I've said before having access to the extensive Micro Four Thirds lens catalogue is a key benefit for Panasonic and Olympus bodies.
Even if you don't have a 4k TV though, the capability to record video with four times the detail of 1080p is more flexible than you think. For starters, it downscales to 1080p very nicely, while also giving you the chance to punch-in and out of footage on a Full HD timeline with a single body setup and no loss of quality. Panasonic's 4k Photo mode is also a cunning application which lets you extract 8 Megapixel stills from footage recorded at 30fps, which is effective for capturing the decisive moment, not just for sports for even portraits.
For all the reasons mentioned in this verdict section, I find the Lumix G7 far more compelling than DSLRs pitched at the same price point. The real competition here comes from rival mirrorless cameras, particularly Sony's A6000 (for its superior burst and continuous AF), Fujifilm's XT10 (for it's superb imaging pipeline), and the Olympus OMD EM10 (for its built-in stabilisation). You should carefully compare the feature sets of all these models to see if one's a better fit for how and what you shoot, but if you're into video or just want a great all-round mid-range camera, the Lumix G7 is hard to beat at this price point."
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Panasonic_Lumix_G7/verdict.shtml
Granted, this is from pretty much a one man operation, not a staff of 15 (4 editors, 5 reviewers, 1 photographer, 3 web developers and 2 product managers).
DPR does a great many things well including articles on technique, features on photographers, fun and informative videos, interviews, news reports, useful tools (side-by-side-comparison), a fantastic range of forums to select from and, yes, reviews, which many of us wait for before making purchases. Keep up the good work.
But every so often even they can simply miss the point of a camera. And while the "Express Review" concept may have merit with point & shoots, given the G7's unique featureset and capabilities at its price level, it warranted a full and objective review.
Water under the bridge. As always, before making a purchase read reviews from numerous reliable sources, check out user reviews on B&H and Amazon (very positive, see below for links) and, if at all possible, handle the camera yourself. In the end, were each the best judge of our own needs.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...l&Q=&sku=1148282&is=REG&si=rev#costumerReview
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC...oto&ie=UTF8&qid=1436584104&sr=1-1&keywords=g7
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Sailin' Steve
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EarthQuake
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I switched from the Sony Alpha system to Oly M43rds (EM5, EM1) and am very happy. The only real negative about the IBIS is that it only stabilizes the view on half shutter press. This means with very long lenses like 300mm(600m equiv) simultaneously focusing and framing can be difficult. There are OIS alternatives in the system though, like the Panasonic 100-300mm vs the Olympus 75-300mm.
As far as I'm concerned, the IBIS in the EM5/EM5II/EM1 is as good or better than any other IS system I've used, either IBIS or OIS.
Chi Pham
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Chi Pham
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Hi Gary, GX8 spec is out. IBIS + 4K video and new senor too!
Aren't you glad you waited?
gary0319
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Well, actually I didn't wait........ new E-M5II is incoming. Nice specs on the GX8, though the 20 mp sensor and 4 K video would be lost on me, I'm Ok with the 16mp sensor. I spend most of last weekend shooting with my wife and her new E-M5II and I was sold, so I ordered one (due in on Thursday, LOL). Wonder what the intro price on the GX8 will be?
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